View Full Version : Desmosedici now on ducati.com
Go have a look:
http://www.ducati.com/
Might buy one, might not. :lol:
Looks fantastic from the front 3/4 view...
Yep,
Had a quick look, it looks good, I'd love one but not sure of the price £35,000? I know a dealer up here has a deposit on one. Don't think I could bring myself to sell the 998r though so it would have to sit alongside it in the garage!
When do deliveries start? only one a week being made??
Can't wait to see one in the flesh as it were.
Be very interested if a less expensive lookie likie came out with a 999r motor in.
Ray
That is an amazingly neat back end, but it's one bike that actually looks much better in race rep colours. Without them there's just a big slab of red in the profile shots and it's too much.
Mind you, it's fantastic to have a Duke back on the top of the 'ultimate bike' list.
Bloody hell!
Wish you hadn't done that....it looks so beautiful I may have to rob a bank!!!!:cool:
Thats very pretty indeed.
I thinks me will be doing the lottery on saturday haha.
have to say I am very excited now :)
That is one very pretty bike!!
Wow that is sweet! But not so sweet at £35k....
I've aded photos from the press kit, tech spec and exhaust soundtrack on Upnorth (http://www.ducati-upnorth.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1439)
Pity they don't say how much it weighs ...
Still, a 200bhp+ gear driven cam V4 would sound awesome!
sbwells
01-Jun-2006, 11:47
I want one......BAD
I'm selling the house and putting the wife on the game.
No bike is worth 35k for the road............honestly how and where are you going to use a 35k superbike.?.....its OTT....18500 for a 999r is surely enough aint it.?
maybe to put it in the lounge and look at it.......and what a waste that would be...
Sure its awesome but is it really practical in any small way at all.
35k would give you 2/3 years in powerbike MRO................
its fashion motorcycling gone mad.........35k on a Sedeci RR.........whats next a T-**** " i own a Sedeci RR its in the house ".............
Madness
I would have one if they had put colour coded mirrors on it.Now,i'll just stick with what i've got!!
bearing in mind that most Ducati dealers and their technicians are sh*te - who would you trust to service/fettle it????
No bike is worth 35k for the road............honestly how and where are you going to use a 35k superbike.?.....its OTT....18500 for a 999r is surely enough aint it.?
maybe to put it in the lounge and look at it.......and what a waste that would be...
Sure its awesome but is it really practical in any small way at all.
35k would give you 2/3 years in powerbike MRO................
its fashion motorcycling gone mad.........35k on a Sedeci RR.........whats next a T-**** " i own a Sedeci RR its in the house ".............
Madness
part of me agrees and then the other part of me looks at sports cars.. or in fact any car or bike or house even above what you actually need.
Why pay more for anything than is needed?
People spend tens (and even hundreds) of thousands on cars that you can still only do the speed limit in and you could do that in a second hand KIA costing 500 quid!
I would love a DB9 or a 911, but realistically my golf is far more practical, but if I had the cash would i buy a porsche? HELL YEAH!
It's all about desire and if someone desires something and has the money then why not I say.
bearing in mind that most Ducati dealers and their technicians are sh*te - who would you trust to service/fettle it????
as long as they are charging 85 quid an hour for specialist attention..who would care.............its all part of the glammour ....aint it.?
I DONT like it at all, looks too much like they took parts of the 999, 916 and a SS and built it. Luckily with that price I dont like it and wouldnt buy it, but thats just me
butch890
01-Jun-2006, 19:06
looks totally awesome!
Butch
So am i the only one gonna be playing the lottery this weekend :D.
Nattyboy
01-Jun-2006, 19:15
Bloody hell!
Wish you hadn't done that....it looks so beautiful I may have to rob a bank!!!!:cool:
WHY DO THAT PHIL - JUST DIP INTO ONE OF YOUR OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS MATE...
dickieducati
01-Jun-2006, 19:17
I want one......BAD
I'm selling the house and putting the wife on the game.
not interested in the house, but........................no sorry i shouldnt really go there!
I like it, the look that is. Would want to hear and see it go before I would say much more apart from HOW MUCH????????????????
I would like a ride on it. Hope they bring out a cheaper version soon. Just think, open pipes, V4 engine, Ohhhhhhh i reckon it sounds awsome!
DC.
I'm with fil2. Anyway - after a year or two they'll be making them in the hundreds and selling them for £10k with higher spec components. It's what they usually do innit?
Ducati have done a good job on the styling apart from the front view.Hmm,Ive seen that face before,...its coming to me,...oh yeah,its one of those Sea Devils off Dr. Who.
Desmoseadevil,...I like it. lol.
WHY DO THAT PHIL - JUST DIP INTO ONE OF YOUR OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS MATE...
I was referrring to the piggy bank Nat :cool:
WHY DO THAT PHIL - JUST DIP INTO ONE OF YOUR OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS MATE...
I was referrring to the piggy bank Nat :cool:
Wouldn't want to bring the offshore cash back here now would I ?
doogalman
01-Jun-2006, 19:40
Absolutly F£££££G gorgeous. Gotta be the most awesome race rep ever. Have the italians beaten the japs to the magic 200mph? I hope so. Now what are the big four going to do??? They have truely done a class styling job with this. It is allready a classic.
Sharpy G
01-Jun-2006, 19:53
now thats......................schweeeeeeet !
what a looker ! lights kinda look like the new Kwak 6R
£35k tho' ? and you can't even see that beautiful frame !
Would look v.nice next to the 749R tho' !
but then where would I get any bits to mod it ? unless Loris has some bits on Ebay ! LOL
Sharpy G
01-Jun-2006, 20:17
just had a thought !
Take a 999R for £20k add a set of those gas Ohlins forks at around £12-15k and you get £32-35k !!! so ............ buy one of these instead and get 2 free cylinders !!
desmobob
01-Jun-2006, 23:11
...has whinged about it's lack of pannier carrying capability and the limited colour options available yet ? :)
I've been wanting a reason to say why I have Ducati's since they've *only* been winning WSB and BSB races, (please don't start going on about why they're winning) - and this is it .... it's a *modern* looking beauty and I've got my kidney and testicles on eBay ;)
VanDaMauler
01-Jun-2006, 23:19
Truely awsome....
Very nice, cant wait to see the 999 replacment now.
Wow.... looks fantastic... new house or new bike...
Lee1980
02-Jun-2006, 08:20
Interesting quote on www.motorcycledialy.com,
"Each Ducati Desmosedici RR owner can benefit with a three-year warranty and three years of scheduled maintenance, free of charge".
Good news for anyone that can afford one!!!
I have my lottery tickets! hehe
Cheers
Lee1980:)
very nice! Is it not about £35k for the magnesium/carbon loaded one, with a "less expensive" one being released later for about £15k? I'd have one of those,
Dont think it looks like a ZX6R. I have one of those and the lights in the Duke are much sleeker. Goes to show Ducati dont need to reinvent the 916 to come up with a fantastic design, some real clever detailing going on there.
Ian Harris
02-Jun-2006, 13:33
very nice! Is it not about £35k for the magnesium/carbon loaded one, with a "less expensive" one being released later for about £15k? I'd have one of those,
Didn't Ducati issue a denial that a cheaper version would become available?
i dont see why everyones so hung upon the pirce, you can buy a mv for £30k thats nowhere evcen near winning a wsb race leat alone a motogp race/title !!!
that bike is stunning and if i could afford one i'd have one and i'd ride the damn thing too, theres no way it would just sit in the lounge and never get ridden
ducati have also denied that they will homolgamate it for wsb racing too
TORTUGA
05-Jun-2006, 07:52
How long before a race team owner buyes a couple of these and goes WSB/BSB racing. I cant see what would stop them. In anything other than a factory team the 999 is not competitive with the fours and so £35.000 would be a bargain for race team who will have 200bhp before they even think about tunning. Foggy Petronas seem to be able to race bikes that are not even and wont ever be in production so I see no reason why these RR's cant be bought and raced. I have to say that I dont want to see the twins disapear from the grid but in a place where money and winning is the order of the day I see it as a for gone conclusion. (Maybe someone will point out the error of my ways)
Paul James
05-Jun-2006, 11:02
The other manufacturers will just have to catch up then won't they ? I seem to recall H*nda spending zillions to get a big ugly twin to take on the Ducati's in WSB some time back. Not sure how the Foggy bike gets away with homologation rules, can't say I've heard of many being sold ?
The price tag is pretty irrelevant, if you want one and can afford it go and buy it, if you can't afford one and you want one get out there and work your nads of to buy it, if you don't want one don't buy one. They will be made in limited numbers (or so those with deposits on one hope !!) so there should be a reasonable resale value.
Lets face it £35k is pocket change to some people.
In honesty this sort of bike isn't ridden much on the road whereas WSB homologation bikes seem to get well used. Different price bracket but I doubt many will be left unsold.
I'd have one but just don't have any more bike space in the workshop now.
bearing in mind that most Ducati dealers and their technicians are sh*te - who would you trust to service/fettle it????
exactly!! i wish i lived nearer too the midlands..........
was very seriously thinking about one but decided against it after getting rogered with the 999r! £35k is 10k too much imho.
It would be a shame to thrash such an exquisite bike within an inch of its life but it would just have to be done!
I get the feeling anyone buying one wont suffer the depreciation nightmare of the early 999r, but once bitten!
Now if it was £25k then i would have gone for it.
sbwells
06-Jun-2006, 08:21
How long before a race team owner buyes a couple of these and goes WSB/BSB racing. I cant see what would stop them. In anything other than a factory team the 999 is not competitive with the fours and so £35.000 would be a bargain for race team who will have 200bhp before they even think about tunning. Foggy Petronas seem to be able to race bikes that are not even and wont ever be in production so I see no reason why these RR's cant be bought and raced. I have to say that I dont want to see the twins disapear from the grid but in a place where money and winning is the order of the day I see it as a for gone conclusion. (Maybe someone will point out the error of my ways)
A number of the Foggy Petronas bikes complete with headlights and indicators were "homligated" for WSB a few years ago now. I have no idea of how many of the bikes have been produced or sold to the public. I assume there is a bit of gray area in process between "intented sale" and actual
In order for a model to be homligated in WSB it has to be "presented" for homligation by the manufacturer. Ducati have stated that they will not homligate the D16 for WSB. They will continue with the 999 platform and, at a guess, lobby for a displacement increase to close the HP gap with the competition.
The V-twin represents the Ducati marque and has done so for the last 30 years or so. Ducati believe its customers of the past, present and future want to retain V-twins as the core powerplant for the company and it's respective models.
Homligation of the D16 would be commercal suicide for the BRAND. Alienation of current and prospective customs is not the wat forward for the company
TORTUGA
06-Jun-2006, 08:57
The V-twin represents the Ducati marque and has done so for the last 30 years or so. Ducati believe its customers of the past, present and future want to retain V-twins as the core powerplant for the company and it's respective models.
Homligation of the D16 would be commercal suicide for the BRAND. Alienation of current and prospective customs is not the wat forward for the company
I couldn't agree more. Ducati are V-Twins and that is why I hope they get their capacity increase because otherwise they will be forced down another route or withdrawl from WSB. As long as the rules are changed so the playing field is level then long live the twin.
sbwells
06-Jun-2006, 09:54
otherwise they will be forced down another route or withdrawl from WSB. As long as the rules are changed so the playing field is level then long live the twin.
I don't think the Japanese four manufacturer's would agree at the moment.
Go BAYLISS!!!!
sbwells
06-Jun-2006, 09:58
Oh and the V-twin has some advantages over the fours that are often forgotten about by the "boys down the pub".
Tractive force or low rpm torque aids drive and the narrow design of the twin helps aerodynamic performance. Have a look at Performance bikes top speed data some time. A "narrow twin" usually achieves a higher top speed than a four with the same HP
tranquil_rage
06-Jun-2006, 15:53
I'm not sure that Ducati need a capacity increase! Look at the run-away nature of the current season. It's bloody cheeky asking for more power when the current bike is stomping on the opposition. :D
If the capacity increase doesn't happen and at some point they need more power then maybe the V4 can be homologated.
sbwells
06-Jun-2006, 23:49
I'm not sure that Ducati need a capacity increase! Look at the run-away nature of the current season. It's bloody cheeky asking for more power when the current bike is stomping on the opposition. :D
If the capacity increase doesn't happen and at some point they need more power then maybe the V4 can be homologated.
Asking for a power increase would not have been as "cheeky" last season. Bayliss has certainly tipped the apple cart against the capacity hike this year though.
Of course its possible that the D16 could be homligated but it's unlikely Ducati will point a gun at there own heads. Read between the lines mate
TORTUGA
07-Jun-2006, 10:25
The power increase comes down to cost. No one will win anything on the 999RS as its just not got the power to win against the fours. The MOTO GP costing factory bike that is winning is piloted by Baylis in WSB and he is winning on a bike that is I believe down on BHP against the fours. Lanzi is'nt producing good results at the moment. Any private teams running 999RS bikes are not doing well and the costs to run these are much more than running fours.
In BSB 2 factory bikes(again huge costs) are winning but there is not a single private 999 to be seen as they are too expensive and just wont produce results.
So the future for Ducati is factory twins with huge costs or ask for a capacity rise with rule changes to level the field. You get sameish power but much lower costs and that has got to be good news for anyone wanting (A) to see v twins mixing it up with fours. Or (B) wanting to race v twins.
You could see Aprilia returning and KTM have expressed interest and to me that has got to be good for racing. Dont get me wrong I like to watch racing and not clear domination by one manufacturer so I want to see costs reduced and a level playing field.
Just an example of cheaper racing but when Hawk Kawasaki started racing the ZX10R they bought straight road bikes from a shop and started racing them after removing the lights, plates etc and of course changing the fairing but on their first few outings they still had their electric starters fitted. The bikes were fairly competitive from the off with minimal tunning.
Can you see the result at the next BSB meeting if you put Lavilla out on a 999R straight from the shop. I can and he wont be winning any races that weekend.
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