Good to be on the road again + tank & filter mods

[Iconic944ss]

Finally got around to taking some pics today - I'd almost forgotten how good the old trooper feels, a bit more mid-range poke now too from the spaghetti headers as well I think.

Other pic is of the fuel filter mod (prompted by Derek) that moves the filter outside of the fuel tank - it seems ok zip-tied where it is...

Regards - Frank
DSC Webteam

[Fiver]

Looks great!
- What type of screen is that you have there?
Cheers
Cy

[Jools]

Cy...if you want to get a good screen for a carby SS you could do worse than checking out Skidmarx.

I ordered one for my 888 (very similar to the SS) and they made one to order. I wanted a straightforward standard clear screen to replace a hideous flip screen, it cost me £34 and was with me inside 10 days. It looks great.

BTW...Looking good Frank

[Iconic944ss]

Thanx gents....

I think the screen is from Powerbronze:

http://www.powerbronze.co.uk

IF it is, I'd have problems recommending it - it is a good 3" higher than stock but the holes didnt line up and needed quite a bit of drilling/filing and as reported in my MOT thread, I recently found the bottom of the screen isnt cut away correctly and was fouling the headlamp surround.

as an aside I have a slightly raised Zero Gravity screen somewhere and they make the best quality screens I've come across so far - I believe they also make hi-rise variants as well now.

Time to put some straight-throu cans on I think and let him breathe a bit ;)

Frank

ps - slightly bigger pics now in my gallery (hopefully):

http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=42

[Fiver]

I ordered one with the nice man at Skidmarx today.
All being well, it should be here in a 7-10 days :)

Thanks for the advice gents.

Cy

[ziggi]

Shweet ! Looking good

[Screwy]

Very nice Frank :cool: :cool: :cool:

I should really start working on the wife as I,m quite sure my 851/888 feels rather lonely in the garage :eureka:

[andys 900ss]

Wow! Frank, your bike is seriously shiney mate!!!

Very well cared for,

Andy

[Iconic944ss]

Cheers Guys, the rear wheel and s/arm were polished already when I got the bike, so I figured she deserved a bit of elbow grease.

As for the fairing - it used to be Mr. Sheen (seriously) but wifey has defected over to 'sparkle' so thats is what is used for a quick once over.

Just hoping for some days off and good weather to co-incide a bit now :)

Frank

[Iconic944ss]

Carbon Cans sire???

Full race items, sound nice but actually a bit TOO loud around town at times (I dont like to attract attention but DO like dizzy motorists to hear me coming).

These are the 'Simmi' pipes the bike came with - low level Silmotor ones will go on next so wifey can go on for the first time :eek:

http://www.esnips.com/nsdoc/250892c5-0d3c-4785-ae5a-164d4ab95ef2

Frank

[number9]

Finally got around to taking some pics today - I'd almost forgotten how good the old trooper feels, a bit more mid-range poke now too from the spaghetti headers as well I think.

Other pic is of the fuel filter mod (prompted by Derek) that moves the filter outside of the fuel tank - it seems ok zip-tied where it is...

Regards - Frank
DSC WebteamSo I found this thread (http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/showthread.php?t=28885) referenced on Ducati.ms, and thought I'd come along and join.

This looks like my kind of mod! I can't really remember what it looks like inside my tank, though. Frank, would you be so kind as to tell me exactly how you "patched up" the lines inside the tank so that you can house the filter externally?


number9
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1995 Ducati 900SS/CR: ZeroGravity windshield, Scorpion slip-ons, Napoleon bar-end mirrors, Hein Gericke luggage...

[Iconic944ss]

Hi Number 9 and welcome to the board, I'll have a Jim Beam and coke which seems appropriate ;)

Tank mod was easy to tell the truth, I simply replaced the filter within the tank for a piece of hose and clamped it at both ends.

Then, I replaced and lengthened the feed hose to the carbs from the tank and inserted the filter, clamping that as well.

Good luck - Frank

[number9]

Thanks mate... I'm actually an Aussie by birth and have spent a lot of time in London, so it only seems appropriate that I'm here. ;)

So just to clarify something: inside the tank itself there's the filter, and it has short hoses on both ends. And those hoses connect to the ports on the underside of the tank? Or is it "hard-wired" in there, without a hose?

Oh, and what kind of hose did you need -- just a couple feet of EFI hose?

[Iconic944ss]

I wish I'd taken some photo's myself but my skill just aint up to the mark really.

The post that started it all on Ducati.ms

http://www.ducati.ms/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=supersport&Number=196021&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=

in the last pic shows the clamps at the rear that hold the fuel pump in place.

A short piece of hose comes from the front of the pump, into the filter and then the filter connects to the outlet of the tank and the fuel tap with a 2nd short hose.

At the top of this post here is a pic of the METAL bodied filter I've zip-tied to my breather hose - I'll check but I think the hose is just 6mm petrol.

I'll try and get the number for the metal bodied filter as well as the one inside my tank as OEM is plastic.

Worthwhile mod in my book - especially with the POR liner overhaul as well.

Maybe I should start my own tank refurbish centre :lol:

Cheers - Frank

[number9]

Doesn't sound like a bad idea champ ;)

Would you be able to use your Microsoft Paint skills with this image:

http://www.ducati.ms/pp/data/3030/59562005_0615_064515-med.JPG?9539

To give me an idea on where the filter & pump all sit? I can't even get the filter out! Also, I have no idea how that guy actually took photos of the inside of his tank :p

[Iconic944ss]

I think we can manage a little better than that.....

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/flsntl/tank.jpg


(17) is the rubber sleeve that the fuel pump (16) fit inside of and then presses into the four 'clips' visible in the photos you saw previously.

19 & 37 are the small hoses either side of the filter (20) that all get replaced with a longer section of hose, if moving the filter outside.

The diagram is a little confusing as most parts around group 30 are OUTSIDE the tank while the other stuff is INSIDE.

Getting things out can be hard if the hose is perished - I'd disconnect the hose clips and get the small hoses out if possible.
Then, I found that the four clamps had bonded to the rubber filter housing and needed prising back with long nosed pliers before the pump wanted to come out.

BEWARE - the pump electric connections are phased, so mark one pair up correctly if pulling EVERYTHING to pieces!

Frank

[nicks]

Agree with everyone that is a lovely bike!

[Iconic944ss]

:) Many thanks...

Horrible fence or Shiney Ducati = No Contest!!! - LOL.

Still got plans for more Mods over winter as well ;)

Frank

[number9]

Frank, from the look of my research two sizes of petrol lines are used: 5/16" (7mm?) within the internal tank itself, and 1/4" (6mm?) from the tank externally to the carbs. Doesn't that mean, once you move it, that the filter is expecting a 5/16" hose to connect to it but you're now using a 1/4" hose? Did you use a reducer, or are the lines too similar for it to matter?

[Iconic944ss]

Blimey!

Good detail sire - to be honest I cant remember last month nevermind last year.

I think the reason around the pipe change is that I'm using a non-standard metal filter outside the tank instead of the plastic filter than normally resides inside the tank.

I've had no problems at all with the filter mod - the hardest part for me was trying to work out where to clip/retain the metal filter to, fortunately on my bike the breather hose quickly became an obvious choice.

If going into the tank to renew the filter or do other work I'd recommend moving the filter outside if it can be mounted in a stable way - likewise the POR lining looks the same as when I finished the overhaul.

Cheers - Frank

[number9]

So, did you use 6mm or 7mm hose? :p And yeah, I'll probably cable-tie it just like you did; I'm just doing it for the filter - I don't need a tank overhaul.

[Iconic944ss]

I suspect the 6mm hose because it was so tight I remember having to soften the ends of the hose with a hairdrier but, I still put some clips on anyways.

F

[number9]

Frank: Where exactly did you put the filter? There seem to be three options:

* on the delivery hose of the two hoses that form a "Y"
* on the return hose of the two hoses that form a "Y"
* on the single hose segment after the "Y" join

I guess there's probably not much point for option #2, but I'm curious as to where you put yours...

[Iconic944ss]

Oh - now THAT really is THE most CRITICAL part of the whole operation......

Only available to full members I'm afraid :lol:

:devil: - Frank

[number9]

Oh - now THAT really is THE most CRITICAL part of the whole operation......

Only available to full members I'm afraid :lol:

:devil: - FrankC'mon now... don't make me fly across the pond and bitch-slap you ;)

Remember, Peter Andre is my countryman & he works for me!!!

[Iconic944ss]

LOL - ok since I dont fancy a bitch-slapping today.

I figured the most effective place was to follow the original design and place the external filter in the single delivery line OUTLET the tank (eg before the 'Y' piece).

So can you get my quick action throttle from Chris Kelly now :devil:

Cheers - Frank

[number9]

LOL - ok since I dont fancy a bitch-slapping today.

I figured the most effective place was to follow the original design and place the external filter in the single delivery line OUTLET the tank (eg before the 'Y' piece).

So can you get my quick action throttle from Chris Kelly now :devil:

Cheers - FrankLOL, thanks mate! Seriously though, I can ship it onwards to you if you're worried about UK customs...

[Iconic944ss]

LOL, thanks mate! Seriously though, I can ship it onwards to you if you're worried about UK customs...

Nice one Number9,

I already have my FCR's so will only need the throttle and cables so, not that much of a problem BUT for anyone wanting to buy anything expensive a Duke friend in the USA is always handy ;)

Cheers - Frank

[number9]

No problem Frank, keep me in mind if you ever need exxy!


Chris

[Iconic944ss]

It was bugging me that I couldnt remember which hose I used - just scouted around and found the hose is stamped!!!

1/4" = 6.4mm

Job done :-)

Cheers - Frank