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Just looking through some trackday stuff and Focused Events have got a quiet day on August 4th for £99! I assume the Duc could pass the noise limit with a DB killer in?
There are noisy days near to the race meeting, but they're around £50 more. There's a quiet day Saturday 12th, before the meeting too, but that's £135.
Anyone up for the cheap day....not that I'm tight or owt :p
I'm booked on the noisy day on the friday before as I'm not convinced I can get the DD bike down to 98db, even with db killers. I also need the rest day in between as I discovered this weekend!
Cheers,
Ali
I'm on the quiet day (Saturday) as the new turbo seems to keep the exhaust note nice and sedate like ;)
I don't need a day of rest seeing as I'm such an athelete, although my mechanics may want more time depending on whether the oil cooler works or not, and whether I decide to T-bone someone again.
:D
u rich and sponsored riders get all the perks..........no wonder you lot are so quick
Donny trackday the day before the race.....................I WISH
Stop moaning Huntley!!
We need the practice for when you turn up next season :lol:
Stop moaning Huntley!!
We need the practice for when you turn up next season :lol:
i need the practise to catch you front running 680 boys...............LOL
balancing out the costs of 2 x £70+ worth of diesel for 2 trips to Donny: once for a TD (also having to take a days hol off work too) , then again for the meeting,
it is therefore cheaper for us to do one trip for the TD on the Sat & race on the Sun - what we save on the fuel, the lads have paid for the TD (which was booked in early May)
:)
Who is running the Saturday TD ?
Tonio600
11-Jul-2006, 12:10
the track itself I think...
i need the practise to catch you front running 680 boys...............LOL
695 :rolleyes:
695 :rolleyes:
Had a sit on one of those at the weekend! mmm, 2008 bike....
Well, if you lot are all going on Saturday, I'll look at booking that too :)
Well, if you lot are all going on Saturday, I'll look at booking that too :)
Friday anyone??? :eek:
:lol:
Friday anyone??? :eek:
:lol:
I thought you were nice too, despite what everyone else told me :(
:p
I'm booked on Saturday! And double transport arranged, plus a kind offer from Cleggy just incase too! I WILL get there this time :D
What groups everyone in? I'm in Inters
Why are all you hardened racers :rolleyes: in the inters group?
Why...
I guess it is due to the straight line speed, especially the 583s, and people being modest. Unfortunately having a 600/620m, whether you race or not, is probably a bit like having a motard. Straight line heroes on R1s doing 160+, suddenly coming across something going 50-60-70mph slower!
What do they [Monster/SS 600s] do flat out? 100mph? 110? My old 600m did about 95. What do the 620s do standard? Maybe 115?
Yeah, cos theres a lot of straights at Donington, especially on the National.............
I don't see what the problem is.
We're riding 45-63 bhp bikes, not designed for racing, most riders havn't even done 10 race meetings, and all of a sudden we're BSB stars ruining the inter group on a trackday?
Tell me you're on a wind up Andy!
The very fastest riders will only be doing 1m 25's, and if you can't do that on a 748/749/916 etc then you're over estimating your ability in the inter group.
Why is it when you've done a race meeting, all of a sudden you're a 'racer'?
We're just normal blokes AND GIRLS having some fun. Get over it!
:)
Yeah...
There are still plenty of places, even on a twisty track like Donnington, where straight line speed and horse power makes a difference.
If somebody feels they are better in the intermediate group, then it is their choice.
Just because you race a bike, it doesn't neccessarily mean you are fast on the track.
quote- "Tell me you're on a wind up Andy!"
Me..with my reputation......:o
quote- "Just because you race a bike, it doesn't neccessarily mean you are fast on the track."
:lol: Youll be telling me its the taking part that counts next!:lol:
Anyway, for me, it's all about taking part ;)
:lol: Youll be telling me its the taking part that counts next!:lol:
Aint that one of the main reasons you got a 999R...........LMAO
Aint that one of the main reasons you got a 999R...........LMAO
welll that and......the fact i can afford it......:D
:lol: Youll be telling me its the taking part that counts next!:lol:
After what?
welll that and......the fact i can afford it......:D
Even if I could afford one, I'm not sure I'd bother if it's not fast enough to get past a 600SS.
You pays yer money...
welll that and......the fact i can afford it......:D
Good Hard earned drug money after bad..........................
damn shame that..........................
LMAO
No your right, i have these dillusions........i couldnt keep up with you racers!
No your right, i have these dillusions........i couldnt keep up with you racers!
Andy whispers quietly to himself " well i could at snetterton on that long straight but only if it was dry "...............
LMAO
Im at Donington this Mon........anyone else to show me the links between all the straights i like??
Tonio600
14-Jul-2006, 16:44
Im at Donington this Mon........anyone else to show me the links between all the straights i like??
Racers can't afford trackdays.
:lol:
Is that why they make the most of the practice when they can afford it.................and go out amongst the mobile shicanes in the inters?:lol: :lol:
Tonio600
15-Jul-2006, 13:07
/sigh :(
Went and did an afternoon there yesterday, what a brilliant track, forgotten how good it is :) I was running at the top end of the Inters group on the 583, so it was a pretty slow day! Does give you a huge ego boost to drive round litre bikes down Craner Curves though :D
You're such a hooligan!!!
I think racers should be banned from everything!
;)
As a racer i bet you must be over the moon with blowing away the inters group..........:rolleyes: (tongue in cheek!)
Dom...I agree, I'm going to punish myself right away :eek: :p
andyb...It was good overtaking practice, put it that way. Trackdays are nothing like racing, have to take racer head off for them ;)
Met a couple of members of the DSC up there too, one guy who recognised the Scooter Shop stickers and had a quick chat (nice tattoos btw :) ) and another who said he may come and watch us lot do our thing as he's trackdaying there the day before the race :) Another couple of really nice folks from the DSC, we've got quite a club here ya know.
couchcommando
16-Jul-2006, 19:31
As a racer i bet you must be over the moon with blowing away the inters group..........:rolleyes: (tongue in cheek!)
(tongue in cheek)
As even the fastest desmo lap time is barely quick enough for the fast group inters it has to be on these low powered machines, I still find it surprising that people with 100hp more and sticky tyres can be passed on a desmo bike :)
(tongue in cheek)
As even the fastest desmo lap time is barely quick enough for the fast group inters it has to be on these low powered machines, I still find it surprising that people with 100hp more and sticky tyres can be passed on a desmo bike :)
Yeah, but you and Lucie are hardened racers - it's just not fair that you're allowed out on a trackday!
Especially as Lucie has done about 4 race meetings - that's outrageous, she's far too experienced for inters AND she's got 49bhp!!!!!
I'm going to write to my MP :rolleyes:
skidlids
16-Jul-2006, 19:43
one guy who recognised the Scooter Shop stickers and had a quick chat (nice tattoos btw :) )
That was Dallas with his 996SPS, he normally races with North Glos, last year he was on the ZX10R and binned it at Quarry when we were at Castle Combe
The Horsepower thing just isnt a viable arguement! The 125 mid corner speed is quicker than the motogps!
I gladly go out in the fasty group on the vfr 400.....yeah great you pass me on the straight but woopy doo! I still make a good case amongst the bendy bits....even though im just a trackdayer and not a racer!!:rolleyes:
So would you class Lin (sorry Lin) as a hardened racer?
She's done 18 months of racing.
Or are you just upset at people that race and are faster than you?
I'm not sure I understand the point at which you become a 'racer' and therefore a threat on trackdays?
There are lots of very fast people that don't do racing, but they'd be very good - but I suppose that because they stick to trackdays, that's ok is it?
This isn't entirely directed at andyb coz I know he's messing about as well - but it does get irritating when 'non-racers' moan about racers ruining trackdays.
This isn't entirely directed at andyb coz I know he's messing about as well - but it does get irritating when 'non-racers' moan about racers ruining trackdays.
Yeah and thats another thing!..........."racers" messing around in the novice/ inters group 'practicing!'
Thats my point!
Seriously, if you can't ride faster than a 50bhp Ducati twin, with a novice racer on board in the inter group - then you should be in the slow group, and very embarrassed!!!
I'm now going in the fast group at Donington, BUT, I'm as dangerous to the really fast guys in the fast group as you percieve me to be in the inters. It's much safer for a 'racer' on a slow bike, to go in the inter group.
So on the other side of this....are you saying racing in the DD is the same as doing an inters t/day?
Tonio600
16-Jul-2006, 21:13
Yeah, but you and Lucie are hardened racers - it's just not fair that you're allowed out on a trackday!
Especially as Lucie has done about 4 race meetings - that's outrageous, she's far too experienced for inters AND she's got 49bhp!!!!!
I'm going to write to my MP :rolleyes:
brilliant :lol:
So on the other side of this....are you saying racing in the DD is the same as doing an inters t/day?
No. I'm saying that a DD racer is no threat or danger to anyone on a trackday in the inter group and I don't understand why you or anyone would have a problem with it.
From my personal experience, I'd much rather be on track with 'racers' as I find them much safer and in more control of what they're doing. They also don't have to take risks or ride beyond their ability to overtake people.
Lastly, just because somebody has been in a race, does not make them fast!
How funny :D Your little VFR400 is a lot faster than my 583, I've been out with standard 400s on a trackday (naughty practicing racing god me :rolleyes: ) and they blow the 583 into the weeds, so that's that out the window. I'll not go in the fast group on the DD bike. Somebody that knows what they're doing on a litre bike have a good 50-60mph over my bike on a straight, that sort of closing speed is ridiculously dangerous. Far safer with people that aren't as handy at wielding their 160 odd bhp in the Inters IMO. Don't know what your problem is really, maybe bitterness at not being a 'racer'?
Skids...thanks for letting me know :) Hello Dallas if you're watching *waves*
Dom...'Seriously, if you can't ride faster than a 50bhp Ducati twin, with a novice racer on board in the inter group - then you should be in the slow group, and very embarrassed!!!
' ;) My thoughts exactly.
couchcommando
16-Jul-2006, 22:15
TBH maybe we're being a little harsh on andyb, if he can hold his own on a VFR400 in the fast group he is running 400 race winning pace and if we're not careful he'll turn up in DD and show us the way round !
As others I would like to know when I turn into a hardened racer and have to go in the fast group ?
Most DD'rs lap cadwell in the 1m50-2m10 lap times, fast groups now drop down to 1m35, admittedly only a few secs quicker than andyb on his 400 but still for dd bikes the lap times are too different and cause a danger especially o nthe straights with closing speeds of more than 60mph.
The dd bikes don't have a corner advantage over the bigger bikes either, unlike motogp where a 125 is lighter than a motogp bike and they are both on equally grippy tyres the dd bike weighs the same as a modern litre supersports yet is on less grippy tyres, dd bikes are just a liability in the fast group.
Inters is a safer place to be, folks in inters on bigger bikes don't know how to open their throttles and don't use their sticky tyres in the corners so lap times are similar therefore making the day safer for everyone :)
So what was the problem with racers in inters ?
couchcommando
16-Jul-2006, 22:16
So on the other side of this....are you saying racing in the DD is the same as doing an inters t/day?
Same lap times yeh, what's the point of that question ? In fact some of the classis classes only lap as quick as the novice group.
It's nothing to do with rider ability and all to do with bike speed.
Come racing and see for yourself
Tonio600
16-Jul-2006, 23:04
as they say, you don't need to be fast to be a racer, a pair of balls will do the rest ;)
Edit: and plenty of money :lol:
as they say, you don't need to be fast to be a racer, a pair of balls will do the rest ;)
Edit: and plenty of money :lol:
That's be knackered then, no balls, no money......
;) :p
Tonio600
17-Jul-2006, 09:17
That's be knackered then, no balls, no money......
;) :p
I don't know about the money, but I think you've got more balls than a lot of people here ;)
So on the other side of this....are you saying racing in the DD is the same as doing an inters t/day?
Trackdays are NOTHING like racing, so no. Unless you've raced, you wouldn't understand.
I don't know about the money, but I think you've got more balls than a lot of people here ;)
I don't want balls, I'm a lady ;) Can I have big, urr, ovaries instead?!
Tonio600
17-Jul-2006, 11:19
*ahem*... I knew that was not the finest joke to make about a Lady :)
Sorry Lucie, hopefully you got my point (which was not being rude...) ;)
Trackdays are NOTHING like racing, so no. Unless you've raced, you wouldn't understand.
I don't want balls, I'm a lady ;) Can I have big, urr, ovaries instead?!
" big Jubblies "..................................
" big Jubblies "..................................
:eek: :lol:
Tonio...I know you're not being rude, I'm just playing ;)
antonye
17-Jul-2006, 11:45
<weeksy>
But trackdays aren't racing...
</weeksy>
couchcommando
17-Jul-2006, 17:51
So on the other side of this....are you saying racing in the DD is the same as doing an inters t/day?
Same lap times yeh but that's not the whole story is it, I can lap Donington Park quicker than Kevin Schwantz did on his RGV500 GP bike, does that make me better than him ?..........
Same lap times yeh but that's not the whole story is it, I can lap Donington Park quicker than Kevin Schwantz did on his RGV500 GP bike, does that make me better than him ?..........
Show-off ;)
What's the scoop on getting a 620 or a 583 through the quiet day noise tests ?
Bang a DB Killer up yer pipe :o
Only if you slip!
You'll probably have to give it a good drilling first as well :o
:lol:
At Donington today the sound men were hanging around like a bad smell on the start finish, and several places around the circuit as well.............numerous people got black flagged!
So anybody (apart from dom) got any real info on if the db killers do enough of a job on a dd bike ?
So anybody (apart from dom) got any real info on if the db killers do enough of a job on a dd bike ?
None taken.
Single pipes are louder with killers, up to 106db :o
Our twin pipe makes 97 with killers, but it depends how they do it. Every test I've had (about 4) have all been different revs and distance from the pipe.
Our vfr 400 ran really hot yesterday..............yes i know it was the hottest day of the year, but when i took the db killer out it ran significantly cooler.....and thankfully it wasnt too loud to be flagged.
FYI
couchcommando
18-Jul-2006, 14:00
Our 583 was ok with a db killer on saturday, it's not the loudest 583 without one tho.
Right - I've booked the 12th so I'd better get 3 db killers sharpish then :roll:
Apparently Louigi still has loads of db killers that he got in specially for assen.
Do him a favour and reduce his stock level people.
Chris Wood
19-Jul-2006, 21:24
Only 'NOVICE' places available on Friday 11th now...
Only 'NOVICE' places available on Friday 11th now...
:lol:
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