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loony888
04-Aug-2006, 09:14
g,day all,
i'm looking to buy a 2001 748R in red (shame it's not yellow!!). anyway, the current owner tells me it has the alloy mufflers but i was under the impression the "R" models came with the carbon termignoni mufflers and matching eprom or cpu?? anyone clarify this for me? if i need to buy some termis, what size do i need? any other tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
TIA,
paul.

sye73
04-Aug-2006, 10:05
paul, i can only offer a partial answer in so far as may 748R has carbon Termignoni's, but I bought them seperately from the seller.... as in I believe he didn't get them with his bike. My old 748SP and 748 SPS from new came with a pack that consisted of Termig's, paddock stand, ecu, and cover. As far as I know, the later R models didn't come with these items.
I'm sure someone will clarify this however.
Nice choice of bike by the way !

Chrisiball
04-Aug-2006, 11:36
If its the Ohlins model then it should come with stand cover and termis when new. but hes probably sold these on to make a bit of extra cash, my track bike is running a full 45mm leo vince and runs awesome, was sorted by sigma tho, my road bike has got 50mm termi half system and Ultimap chip and runs Really well after i fitted this chip! The DP chip aint all that good!!

twpd
04-Aug-2006, 12:08
Y2K R's came with Showa and stand only. No pipes or chip - make sure it's not one of them.

If it's a real 01 R should come with cover, paddock stand, 50mm Termi's, DP chip. If it doesn't then it ain't an R if you get my drift - knock the price down accordingly.

Forgot to say Y2K R's were yellow only so, a red one is almost certain to be an 01 one onwards.

Lightning Boy
04-Aug-2006, 14:19
As far as I know all the R's came with 50mm Carbon Termi's, EPROM, stand and cover, and the 2001 model would have been no different. Usually a bike like this is well looked after and previous owners should have ensured that the package remained complete. Just make sure it really is an 'R'. I know some bikes were sold with Showa forks/shock (at a discount) on a production overlap but ideally it should be fitted with the Ohlins units - it should also have an alloy subframe. The R's have maintained a good resale value over the last few years but if the if the bike is not complete as it should be, then it gives you a good opportunity to knock a few quid off the asking. Rare to find an R with alloys cans and no 50mm Termigs as most owners put the Termig race cans on and assigned the alloy ones to the bin.
I run a 2001 R so if there's anything specific you want to know then drop me a U2U.

p.s. Red one's are faster.........

Gaz 748
04-Aug-2006, 16:38
I can recomend the Ultimap chip with 50mm Termi`s

02 748R comes with full 50mm system and Termi`s

Lightning Boy
04-Aug-2006, 21:51
I can recomend the Ultimap chip with 50mm Termi`s


I can recommend spelling recommend with two mm's........:lol:


Hope to see you again on another Surrey ride-out Gaz

Rob

loony888
04-Aug-2006, 22:54
thanks all, it's definitely an 01, is a proper "R", has the correct gear, ohlins,4pad 4piston brembos, right rotors, alloy subframe, pinstripe around no. board in grey etc. it also has a PCIII and runs very well. the guys son is a ducati tuner with a dynojet dyno (that's how i found it). he's the original owner and the bike is immaculate so i'm guessing he's either sold them or wants to to make a bit extra. bit rude i think as i'm paying top dollar! not too late to change my mind though and look elsewhere.
paul.

wato39
06-Aug-2006, 17:33
I can recomend the Ultimap chip with 50mm Termi`s

02 748R comes with full 50mm system and Termi`s

Is that right ? crikey i was gonna buy a 50mm system for my 02 R don't have to now, Hmmm what can i spend the money on now ?

Lightning Boy
06-Aug-2006, 18:33
Is that right ? crikey i was gonna buy a 50mm system for my 02 R don't have to now, Hmmm what can i spend the money on now ?

Alcohol, Women and Gambling.......the rest you can waste :lol:

Guido
07-Aug-2006, 11:53
I have an '01 748R bought from new from an official UK dealer.

It did NOT come with Termi's or paddock stand. I did get a cover though!!!!.

Gc

twpd
07-Aug-2006, 12:08
You were robbed then. :(

martins
07-Aug-2006, 20:03
I had a 2001 R from new, from Forza Italia, thye did not include Termi's that Year, 2002 on wards, for a street bike it was a complete bag of nails, despite Hackets at the time chipping her and Gutting the exhaust,

Best Ducati Road bike I have had, and had a few! Multistrada S DS, Best Road sports bike I have R1!

Lightning Boy
07-Aug-2006, 21:02
Maybe it was a dealer thing then......maybe a few less generous dealers than others.......

I picked up my bike secondhand last year, came with all documents, handbooks etc including original bill of sale. Sale included 50mm Termigs / DP EROM Chip / Metallic grey DP paddock stand and cover (didn't get the cover) at no extra cost. I think they threw in the first service too......

Bag of nails ? A Ducati 748R a bag of nails ?

OK I admit that it is a very single minded and focused piece of machinery that doesn't tolerate fools lightly - but "a bag of nails"......nah.....

You want a bag of nails go get yourself a Yamaha XS650......:lol:

martins
07-Aug-2006, 21:52
Agricultural Machinery is how I would describe the Ducati Superbike engine to that of an R1, and the thing actually handles! O.k. is has that V Twin sole thing missing but that is far out weighed by the sheer pleasure of ownership, running costs (£27 for the first service, £100 the second)and resale values, seen the used price of those ugly 999/749 lately! Soon they will be giving them away with corn flakes!, now the factory has decided to dump the ugly Duc, Ducati have been getting away with it for years, but too many people have found them out, I am one of them, I keep one foot in the Ducati camp for now with the Multistrada, probably the best real road bike/Sports Touring they have ever made, but I guess you will disagree with me.

sye73
07-Aug-2006, 22:05
I have had 4 Ducatis, with an R1 and a GSXR750 in between. Granted, the Jap stuff is easier on the wallet and easy to live with....but they both completely lacked any sort of soul. When I take my 'R' out, it is an occasion..something a bit special. When I went out on my R1 it was just another Jap bike. It could've been anything.
All individual taste tho I suppose

Gaz 748
07-Aug-2006, 22:43
748R, It`s a keeper,I Love it.

Looks great, feels great and is fast enough for me.

twpd
07-Aug-2006, 22:57
748R=road legal race bike that demands skilled input. It only existed to homologate the race bikes.

R1=easy-going road bike for lazy muppets.

I know which one I would rather have. ;)

Guido
08-Aug-2006, 07:34
You were robbed then. :(

I think the 24k miles of riding smiles I've had far outweigh the poxy zorsts and paddock stand which I had already.

I didn't buy zorsts, I bought a bike...!!! a real bike!!!

Guess I'll still feel that way when its rebuilt...That's the Ducati thing..!!!

I certainly wasn't robbed though!!!