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RD
16-Sep-2006, 00:05
What is it recently with this forum / club, why are many of the posts so aggressive, argumentative, members hurling personal insults at each other etc :confused:
It is a great shame how this forum / club has deteriorated since our proud moment winning 'The Best Single Marque Club' at the BMF. :(

Come on guys, we all should endeavour to get on better and help each other when and where we can.
Too many bad vibes and I don't mean an out of tune pair of Termis, as the saying goes........ Chill out - PEACE, LOVE AND HAPPINESS. :)

I wish you all safe riding, whatever or whoever it may be ;)

Kind regards,
Richard. :)

Mark
16-Sep-2006, 00:08
Thank christ for some common sense, wise words mate. Please take note all.

Glyn
16-Sep-2006, 00:08
wouldn't mind if i knew what was going on
it's like that "lost" on channel 4
miss a bit and you loose all idea of whats happening

jeff st4s
16-Sep-2006, 00:10
Thank christ for some common sense, wise words mate. Please take note all.

Aren't you supposed to be drinking your Beer?
:D :D

Or are you just looking for more fights.
:devil:

DaveB916
16-Sep-2006, 00:12
You are absolutely right, I have member for 4 years and only in the last few months with a miniscule number of posters have I fet the need to defend the club/the site/myself.

I say posters because some are not members !!

I think recent events, read; DD antics have been seriously detrimental to the club/site and that DD Racers should a: be another entity or b: this site be devoted to it ??


Regards

Henners
16-Sep-2006, 00:12
It's OK Jeff - he's doing his best, bless ;)

Mark
16-Sep-2006, 00:13
Aren't you supposed to be drinking your Beer?
:D :D

Or are you just looking for more fights.
:devil:

If i'd had more beer, the site would have been switched off!

Henners
16-Sep-2006, 00:16
If i'd had more beer, the site would have been switched off!

... someone disconect him!! Nurse - the screens :lol:

jeff st4s
16-Sep-2006, 00:17
If i'd had more beer, the site would have been switched off!
Then I'd have to stop working and go to bed if you switched it off.

TopiToo
16-Sep-2006, 00:54
Hello

http://www.topitoo.com/Public/Woodstock.jpg



TopiToo:)

Iconic944ss
16-Sep-2006, 00:57
:lol: Lol - I Love It....

'scuse me while I go and roll something good.......:D

:roll:

TopiToo
16-Sep-2006, 01:03
Hello

what I wanna know were any of you there?

:lol: :lol: :lol:


TopiToo

KeefyB
16-Sep-2006, 07:23
wouldn't mind if i knew what was going on
it's like that "lost" on channel 4
miss a bit and you loose all idea of whats happening
I'm with you there mate,I have'nt a clue whats been going on.:confused:

YMFB
16-Sep-2006, 08:11
I agree lets all be happy, maybe only paid up members should be allowed to post negative posts in the members only forum. Have a safe weekend and enjoy whats left of the summer. I am thinking of buying some nice warm trousers to ride through the winter as the summers just aint long enough !!

Fordie
16-Sep-2006, 08:41
Must admit, some times I enter the site after work or in the evening and its only through shere curiosity to see whats be put up and who's saying what. Some of the reading material has a lot to be desired,and I often wonder why people enter the site only to "Stir" things up. Not all ways malisiously more "pain in the Ar8e" topics. If its on a "Nead to know" there is all ways the PM board to have a personell go at one another,its human nature to "get it off your chest" but don't forget, some people like Glyn and Keefyb and many other no doubt don't want to trawl through all the chaff as they do not
" Need to Know". How nice to enter a thread thats trying to help some one out ,some one in trouble,advise needed,read about some ones ride out , or new purchase, See a nice picture that some one has taken showing the good times we can have in this great club of ours. Life's to short to get involved with all the nastyness of bickering,slacking,his is better than mine,he's got it and I wan't it.We all know (or I hope you know) it take less muscles to smile than it does to frown So unless you're trying to loose weight by burn of energy ,frowing all the time will help. Lets SMILE and to hell with it .Lets see the banter flowing more and think before posting If you've not got anything nice to say then don't say it. It is easier to loose a freind than make one Regards to all 4D

doogalman
16-Sep-2006, 08:49
Did you know???
Rearranging the letters of 'War and Peace' (19th century novel) gives:
c**p and a wee.

Dementor
16-Sep-2006, 09:56
What is it recently with this forum / club, why are many of the posts so aggressive, argumentative, members hurling personal insults at each other etc :confused:
It is a great shame how this forum / club has deteriorated since our proud moment winning 'The Best Single Marque Club' at the BMF.

Come on guys, we all should endeavour to get on better and help each other when and where we can.
Too many bad vibes and I don't mean an out of tune pair of Termis, as the saying goes........ Chill out - PEACE, LOVE AND HAPPINESS. :)

I wish you all safe riding, whatever or whoever it may be ;)

Kind regards,
Richard. :)

Well said Richard, just hope it's not a long cold wet Winter or I fear the trend will continue:(

philthy
16-Sep-2006, 11:10
You are absolutely right, I have member for 4 years and only in the last few months with a miniscule number of posters have I fet the need to defend the club/the site/myself.

I say posters because some are not members !!

I think recent events, read; DD antics have been seriously detrimental to the club/site and that DD Racers should a: be another entity or b: this site be devoted to it ??


Regards

Excuse my ignorance but I thought DD have their own website?:confused:

psychlist
16-Sep-2006, 17:04
Excuse my ignorance but I thought DD have their own website?:confused:

www.ddracer.com but there's hardly anything posted over there these days :confused:

RightSaidFred
16-Sep-2006, 18:30
Awww. You guys......*group hug*

It gets me.....right here!

Love you all for loving me back, and most of all, all of us loving our bikes and the good times they bring.

Now quit with the grizzling and bleating posts ok?!

everton
16-Sep-2006, 19:03
Peace my a4se. I'm in a bad mood ... I'm off to the pub for 6 pints, a bottle of red and a punch up !

Anyone wanna fight :lol: ... sorry stirring again :p

Henners
16-Sep-2006, 20:05
... we're NOT looking for in Normandy David :lol:

Rattler
16-Sep-2006, 20:16
Excuse my ignorance but I thought DD have their own website?:confused:

There is a DD website, but we are all members of the DSC - unlike you by the looks of your avatar, and therefore have funded this website.

What's this positive discrimination? :confused:

psychlist
16-Sep-2006, 20:28
More "them and us"............who's DD? Who's DSC?
We're all bikers and come here to share our passion for bikes, specifically Ducati's, their riders and their riders lives. Anybody is welcome, just temper your enthusiasm with the knowledge that you're talking to real people. Not just the faceless PC at your fingertips!

Tonio600
16-Sep-2006, 21:29
Must admit, some times I enter the site after work or in the evening and its only through shere curiosity to see whats be put up and who's saying what. Some of the reading material has a lot to be desired,and I often wonder why people enter the site only to "Stir" things up. Not all ways malisiously more "pain in the Ar8e" topics. If its on a "Nead to know" there is all ways the PM board to have a personell go at one another,its human nature to "get it off your chest" but don't forget, some people like Glyn and Keefyb and many other no doubt don't want to trawl through all the chaff as they do not
" Need to Know". How nice to enter a thread thats trying to help some one out ,some one in trouble,advise needed,read about some ones ride out , or new purchase, See a nice picture that some one has taken showing the good times we can have in this great club of ours. Life's to short to get involved with all the nastyness of bickering,slacking,his is better than mine,he's got it and I wan't it.We all know (or I hope you know) it take less muscles to smile than it does to frown So unless you're trying to loose weight by burn of energy ,frowing all the time will help. Lets SMILE and to hell with it .Lets see the banter flowing more and think before posting If you've not got anything nice to say then don't say it. It is easier to loose a freind than make one Regards to all 4D

Wisest of the words as usual. Fordie you are what the DSC spirit should always be.

(And no, I'm not writing that cause you wrote something nice about me yesterday or the day before :lol: )

Zimbo16
16-Sep-2006, 21:47
I think recent events, read; DD antics have been seriously detrimental to the club/site and that DD Racers should a: be another entity or b: this site be devoted to it ??




How have dd racers been detrimental to the club exactly? There may well be some issues between a few of the racers and some members of the race committee, I don't see how this affects the club? Pretty much everything relating to DD, including all the DD "antics" as you put it, are contained exclusively within the Desmodue forum, you have a choice as to weather or not you read items in that forum, if you're not interested perhaps you could just ignore posts in that particular forum???

philthy
16-Sep-2006, 23:34
There is a DD website, but we are all members of the DSC - unlike you by the looks of your avatar, and therefore have funded this website.

What's this positive discrimination? :confused:

So what does your comment directed at me mean? That because I haven't paid £25 I shouldn't respond to a post by a member - DaveB?

My post was simply a question.

I thought dd had their own site and ( perhaps naively ) imagined that important items relating to dd would be discussed there.

That's all it was, no hidden agenda, no attempt to have a go at anyone and no intention of causing upset to anyone or any group.

My sincere apologies

Phil

Mark
17-Sep-2006, 00:22
Peace my a4se. I'm in a bad mood ... I'm off to the pub for 6 pints, a bottle of red and a punch up !

Anyone wanna fight :lol: ... sorry stirring again :p

Who are you, who are you?

Tonio600
17-Sep-2006, 10:06
So what does your comment directed at me mean? That because I haven't paid £25 I shouldn't respond to a post by a member - DaveB?

My post was simply a question.

I thought dd had their own site and ( perhaps naively ) imagined that important items relating to dd would be discussed there.

That's all it was, no hidden agenda, no attempt to have a go at anyone and no intention of causing upset to anyone or any group.

My sincere apologies

Phil

Hi mate, there is a DD website but it's not official in any way. It's been made by Dom when he was jobless and bored :lol:
The only official place for DD stuff is here, in the Desmodue forum. :)

Rattler
17-Sep-2006, 10:08
So what does your comment directed at me mean? That because I haven't paid £25 I shouldn't respond to a post by a member - DaveB?

My post was simply a question.

I thought dd had their own site and ( perhaps naively ) imagined that important items relating to dd would be discussed there.

That's all it was, no hidden agenda, no attempt to have a go at anyone and no intention of causing upset to anyone or any group.

My sincere apologies

Phil

My comment was; why should I, as a DSC paid up member, be asked by a non-member to air my views on another site, when there's a section here on the DSC site that I can post on (DD section) that I have partially funded this site through my membership.

The other site is a privately run site and not funded by the DSC (AFAIK).
Tim

philthy
17-Sep-2006, 12:03
My comment was; why should I, as a DSC paid up member, be asked by a non-member to air my views on another site, when there's a section here on the DSC site that I can post on (DD section) that I have partially funded this site through my membership.

The other site is a privately run site and not funded by the DSC (AFAIK).
Tim

Tim

I wasn't asking you to air your views on another site.

Please read both my posts again.

Phil

philthy
17-Sep-2006, 12:08
Hi mate, there is a DD website but it's not official in any way. It's been made by Dom when he was jobless and bored :lol:
The only official place for DD stuff is here, in the Desmodue forum. :)

Tonio

Thanks for answering my question.:)

Phil

Rattler
17-Sep-2006, 13:24
Tim

I wasn't asking you to air your views on another site.

Please read both my posts again.

Phil

Ok Phil - so what does this comment mean?

Excuse my ignorance but I thought DD have their own website?:confused:

Tim

david.hicks
17-Sep-2006, 13:37
Yawn

philthy
17-Sep-2006, 15:52
Ok Phil - so what does this comment mean?



Tim

Tim

Once again, I wasn't being pompous, I was merely asking a simple question.

Tonio has answered my question.

I don't understand why you won't accept my apology for any unintended offence caused.

Phil

Rattler
17-Sep-2006, 18:14
Tim

Once again, I wasn't being pompous, I was merely asking a simple question.

Tonio has answered my question.

I don't understand why you won't accept my apology for any unintended offence caused.

Phil

Apology accepted.

Please let me explain my reasoning behind my position on this.

Perhaps its me, but there seems, amongst a few posters, to be an underlying dislike of anything to do with DD at the moment. A possible feeling of "getting too big for yourselves".... etc ; And your suggestion that there was a board that all DD issues should use instead of this one led me to believe that you too were perhaps anti-DD. I may be guilty of being over sensitive.

However, it seems inevitable in my opinion that the DD series, should it continue, will be too big (perhaps ugly) in the long run for the DSC to continue to directly run it as it does today. The DSC has an assumed responsibility to "share" the series with all DSC members via this board which can lead to issues.

Perhaps the answer is a seperate board funded by the DSC, I doubt this will happen though and until it does, this board can be used by DDers and by non-DD'ers to comment; self-destructive perhaps?

I feel that the competitive nature of any race series and the personal and financial commitments that individuals make to the DD series means that opening up and inviting (by nature of an open forum) comments about the DD racing onto a section of the DSC board can be a problem. This can lead to uninformed statements and input from those not directly involved in the series that could aggravate some of the riders who feel that what was initially intended as a throw away comment can cause further fraction between the DSC and DD.

The DSC / DD relationship is going through a "rough-patch" at the moment and there are those who would wish for a "quickie divorce". I feel that with some "counselling" then all may be made good again, but threads like this do not help this to happen, despite the fact that the original intention (and title) of this thread was for peace.

Maybe I'd better drink some tea and chill for a while - how long 'til Cadwell? ;)

Tim

philthy
17-Sep-2006, 20:19
Tim

I'm glad you have accepted my apology.:)

Just make sure that cup of tea is decaf.:D

Phil

P.S. I'm not anti dd....anyone who has the bottle to race has my utmost admiration.

dickieducati
18-Sep-2006, 12:58
What is it recently with this forum / club, why are many of the posts so aggressive, argumentative, members hurling personal insults at each other etc :confused:


imho, most of this is caused by a lack of openess and honesty. some people ask simple questions and look for simple answers. others decide to not answer for whatever reason. maybe they are simply being antagonistic or maybe they have more to hide or maybe they just dont care. either way if a decision or action takes place that affects the DSC i believe it should be common knowledge. if this was the case 99% of the problems wouldnt exist. you can dress it up how you like but that is a fact.

rcgbob44
18-Sep-2006, 13:16
"Wible"

VanDaMauler
18-Sep-2006, 14:32
http://www.dcimprov.com/boring.jpg

madmav
18-Sep-2006, 21:54
on October 27th 2010 would anyone like to join me and her indoors?
mav

RD
19-Sep-2006, 21:37
Thank christ for some common sense, wise words mate. Please take note all.

Thanks Mark. You're obviously a member who can see my sincerity.

RD
19-Sep-2006, 21:50
I say posters because some are not members !!


Indeed....... and unfortunately some are members. :(


I think recent events, read; DD antics have been seriously detrimental to the club/site and that DD Racers should a: be another entity or b: this site be devoted to it ??


Regards

Agree with your sentiments, although it is not only the DD, there have been other issues and arguments.

Take care mate,
Richard.

RD
19-Sep-2006, 21:56
Hello

http://www.topitoo.com/Public/Woodstock.jpg



TopiToo:)

That's great mate, very funny :lol: :lol: and very artistic. Now where were you when I needed some Autistic Spectrum Disorder Support Group Posters. :rolleye:

RD
19-Sep-2006, 21:59
:lol: Lol - I Love It....

'scuse me while I go and roll something good.......:D

:roll:

Yeah, I'll have a Jamaican Woodbine with you Frank. ;)

RD
19-Sep-2006, 22:04
Must admit, some times I enter the site after work or in the evening and its only through shere curiosity to see whats be put up and who's saying what. Some of the reading material has a lot to be desired,and I often wonder why people enter the site only to "Stir" things up. Not all ways malisiously more "pain in the Ar8e" topics. If its on a "Nead to know" there is all ways the PM board to have a personell go at one another,its human nature to "get it off your chest" but don't forget, some people like Glyn and Keefyb and many other no doubt don't want to trawl through all the chaff as they do not
" Need to Know". How nice to enter a thread thats trying to help some one out ,some one in trouble,advise needed,read about some ones ride out , or new purchase, See a nice picture that some one has taken showing the good times we can have in this great club of ours. Life's to short to get involved with all the nastyness of bickering,slacking,his is better than mine,he's got it and I wan't it.We all know (or I hope you know) it take less muscles to smile than it does to frown So unless you're trying to loose weight by burn of energy ,frowing all the time will help. Lets SMILE and to hell with it .Lets see the banter flowing more and think before posting If you've not got anything nice to say then don't say it. It is easier to loose a freind than make one Regards to all 4D

Very well said 4D. :)
Take care mate,
Richard.

RD
19-Sep-2006, 22:10
Did you know???
Rearranging the letters of 'War and Peace' (19th century novel) gives:
c**p and a wee.

Roy,
Surely you can think of a better anagram than that. :rolleye:

Like the TRITON by the way. :cool:

RD
19-Sep-2006, 22:17
Well said Richard, just hope it's not a long cold wet Winter or I fear the trend will continue:(

Thanks Roy,
I sincerely hope that you're proved wrong, however I have a feeling that you may be right. :(
Take care mate on your new bike, hope to see it soon. :)
Richard.

RD
19-Sep-2006, 22:26
Awww. You guys......*group hug*

It gets me.....right here!

Love you all for loving me back, and most of all, all of us loving our bikes and the good times they bring.

Now quit with the grizzling and bleating posts ok?!

Hurry up and get your username changed ;) ...... That reminds me, I'll have to change mine too. I sound like a well endowed boxer. :lol: :lol:

RD
19-Sep-2006, 22:29
Peace my a4se. I'm in a bad mood ... I'm off to the pub for 6 pints, a bottle of red and a punch up !

Anyone wanna fight :lol: ... sorry stirring again :p

Come on Wigan. :lol: :lol:

Dave,
Hope you and Brenda are both well. :)
Take care mate,
Richard.

RD
19-Sep-2006, 22:43
More "them and us"............who's DD? Who's DSC?
We're all bikers and come here to share our passion for bikes, specifically Ducati's, their riders and their riders lives. Anybody is welcome, just temper your enthusiasm with the knowledge that you're talking to real people. Not just the faceless PC at your fingertips!

Paul,
My sentiments exactly.

RD
19-Sep-2006, 22:47
My comment was; why should I, as a DSC paid up member, be asked by a non-member to air my views on another site, when there's a section here on the DSC site that I can post on (DD section) that I have partially funded this site through my membership.

The other site is a privately run site and not funded by the DSC (AFAIK).
Tim

Good comment.
Richard.

Glyn
19-Sep-2006, 23:00
get that post count up:lol:

RD
19-Sep-2006, 23:47
Apology accepted.

Please let me explain my reasoning behind my position on this.

Perhaps its me, but there seems, amongst a few posters, to be an underlying dislike of anything to do with DD at the moment. A possible feeling of "getting too big for yourselves".... etc ; And your suggestion that there was a board that all DD issues should use instead of this one led me to believe that you too were perhaps anti-DD. I may be guilty of being over sensitive.

However, it seems inevitable in my opinion that the DD series, should it continue, will be too big (perhaps ugly) in the long run for the DSC to continue to directly run it as it does today. The DSC has an assumed responsibility to "share" the series with all DSC members via this board which can lead to issues.

Perhaps the answer is a seperate board funded by the DSC, I doubt this will happen though and until it does, this board can be used by DDers and by non-DD'ers to comment; self-destructive perhaps?

I feel that the competitive nature of any race series and the personal and financial commitments that individuals make to the DD series means that opening up and inviting (by nature of an open forum) comments about the DD racing onto a section of the DSC board can be a problem. This can lead to uninformed statements and input from those not directly involved in the series that could aggravate some of the riders who feel that what was initially intended as a throw away comment can cause further fraction between the DSC and DD.

The DSC / DD relationship is going through a "rough-patch" at the moment and there are those who would wish for a "quickie divorce". I feel that with some "counselling" then all may be made good again, but threads like this do not help this to happen, despite the fact that the original intention (and title) of this thread was for peace.

Maybe I'd better drink some tea and chill for a while - how long 'til Cadwell? ;)

Tim

Tim,

My intentions are sincere.

I don't want to get involved or embroiled in any of the negative and in some cases personal attacks and arguments, I don't have the time or the inclination, I prefer to be constructive with my time. Sadly, I feel that recent events may have a negative effect not only on the DSC but on the DD too, as they are like Siamese Twins - Lack of new membership means no new blood to beat the likes of Phil and Dom - Congratulations, well done fellas.
I agree with most of your comments, who knows what the future holds for the DSC and DD, your observations maybe right. I support both the DSC and DD, I've visited Brands Hatch on a few occasions to support DSC members on a track days and DD'ers racing for points, I've even approached you to have a friendly chat for a few minutes.

On the other hand I do like to get involved in positive debate when I have some time.

May I join you and have a cup of tea. :)

Good luck in the DD for next season. :biaggi:

Take care,
Richard.

RD
19-Sep-2006, 23:51
imho, most of this is caused by a lack of openess and honesty. some people ask simple questions and look for simple answers. others decide to not answer for whatever reason. maybe they are simply being antagonistic or maybe they have more to hide or maybe they just dont care. either way if a decision or action takes place that affects the DSC i believe it should be common knowledge. if this was the case 99% of the problems wouldnt exist. you can dress it up how you like but that is a fact.

Agree, openess and honesty are good virtues.

RD
19-Sep-2006, 23:54
"Wible"

"Wobble" but they don't fall down. :p

RD
19-Sep-2006, 23:57
on October 27th 2010 would anyone like to join me and her indoors?
mav

Yeah man, why not. Do I need to bring a baseball bat ;)

RD
19-Sep-2006, 23:59
get that post count up:lol:

I'm trying, I'm trying. :lol: