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Why is it that when/if 2 (or more) people disagree on a subject on here, that it is seen (by some) as bringing the club down?
What complete nonsense.
Having an opinion has got nothing to do with bringing the club down.
IF the arguements get out of hand (like some do) then that may not look good for the club - BUT - don't go accusing people of purposfully bringing the club down.
It's winds me up when people point fingers (at me especially) and then come out with "You're splitting the club" or "Why are you bringing the club down", personally, I've never done that or set out with the intention of doing that and I don't think anyone else has either - that I have seen anyway.
So, get off your moral high horses and have a spoon of reality check!!
NOBODY is trying to destroy the club, but some people have differing opinions on some subjects - shock horror!!!
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 09:01
don't go accusing people of purposfully bringing the club down.
!!!
By trying to take the DD race series away from DSC that's EXACTLY what you are doing.
in any other walk of life your actions would be considered treason and you'd be hung for it.
Walking in and stealing members and the series away from the club is beyond disgraceful.
boys see my thread and take the chill pill !
http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/showthread.php?t=37894
mav
everton
20-Oct-2006, 09:06
By trying to take the DD race series away from DSC that's EXACTLY what you are doing.
in any other walk of life your actions would be considered treason and you'd be hung for it.
Walking in and stealing members and the series away from the club is beyond disgraceful.
In that case you will be resigning from the club then Domski and I warrant you much of the problems on this board will then disappear.
And please, when you resign, do it gracefully and quietly!
boys see my thread and take the chill pill !
http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/showthread.php?t=37894
mav
Mav, peace and morale officer :D
By trying to take the DD race series away from DSC that's EXACTLY what you are doing.
Ummm... I'm not doing anything of the sort.
That's a strong accusation.
I may have been consulted about such a series, but I'm not pushing for it.
However, you seem to know all about it so I won't bother saying any more - you'll be able to **** me off all you like when I get banned at the end of the month (apparantly).
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 09:12
Ummm... I'm not doing anything of the sort.
That's a strong accusation.
I may have been consulted about such a series, but I'm not pushing for it.
However, you seem to know all about it so I won't bother saying any more - you'll be able to **** me off all you like when I get banned at the end of the month (apparantly).
at the meeting it was asked
"who are the 'Evo Group' of riders who are pushing for this series?" i think by Chris Wood.
You were one of the 5 were you not ? you were the one sitting there holding your hand up and saying "yes, i'm one"...
at the meeting it was asked
"who are the 'Evo Group' of riders who are pushing for this series?" i think by Chris Wood.
You were one of the 5 were you not ? you were the one sitting there holding your hand up and saying "yes, i'm one"...
Yes that's exactly what happened.
Guilty as charged :rolleyes:
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 09:15
Yes that's exactly what happened.
Guilty as charged :rolleyes:
assuming you're being sarcastic here....
What exactly did happen then ??
there were 30 people in the room at the time (or so)
Can anyone else confirm i'm right or wrong with this here please guys...
Wasn't this what happend ?
everton
20-Oct-2006, 09:16
Yes that's exactly what happened.
Guilty as charged :rolleyes:
Well for god's sake resign gracefully and don't get dragged through the mud.
btw I know you're not playing with irony now are you;)
dickieducati
20-Oct-2006, 09:34
[QUOTE=weeksyracing]
in any other walk of life your actions would be considered treason and you'd be hung for it.
QUOTE]
fcuk me get a grip on reality.
a move away from the DSC was mooted as its was percieved by some; rightly or wrongly (their free opinion) that it could be run better under a different 'team'. the general consensus was, that was correct but would rather keep it within DSC. there is now a meeting on the 18th to try and move forward.
there really are some drama queens on here, and its the same old story in that most have no real committment in DD.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 09:40
[QUOTE=weeksyracing]
in any other walk of life your actions would be considered treason and you'd be hung for it.
QUOTE]
fcuk me get a grip on reality.
a move away from the DSC was mooted as its was percieved by some; rightly or wrongly (their free opinion) that it could be run better under a different 'team'. the general consensus was, that was correct but would rather keep it within DSC. there is now a meeting on the 18th to try and move forward.
there really are some drama queens on here, and its the same old story in that most have no real committment in DD.
You're missing the point Dickie....
Dom is a member of this site..and this series....
he's trying to removed this club from the equation and take it away from DSc...
It's like walking into a local pub and telling everyone to leave and come to your pub as the beer is better and cheaper....
Would that be acceptable ?
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 09:41
there really are some drama queens on here, and its the same old story in that most have no real committment in DD.
p.s IT'S NOT ABOUT DD... it's about right and wrong... it's about ettiquette, form, and doing the right thing. It just so happens that it's in relation to the DD series.
Think the DSC is ****, fine, clear off and start another club, just stop decrying the efforts of others, pulling down all what’s been achieved by endless whinging about what hasn’t. If so many are hacked of with this one you won’t have any problem will you?
Do the whingers march into Sainsburys and bawl at the top of their voice, this shop is ****, yer crisps are 1p more than ASDA and there are on the wrong aisle for weeks on end…………no? didn’t think so, so don’t do it here thank you very much.
Try it some time and see how long it is before you are “escorted” from the premises, customer (member) or not.
Keep it real
Ray.
Rattler
20-Oct-2006, 09:47
[QUOTE=dickieducati]
You're missing the point Dickie....
Dom is a member of this site..and this series....
he's trying to removed this club from the equation and take it away from DSc...
It's like walking into a local pub and telling everyone to leave and come to your pub as the beer is better and cheaper....
Would that be acceptable ?
Hmmm - to use your analogy, if the people in the pub thought that they could get cheaper and better beer and had already chosen to drink in that pub, then they'd speak to the existing pub to get them to change their beer - wouldn't they?
This is what's happening with the DD and DSC, some ideas for improvement have been suggested and we feel that if we can get them within the existing framework (cheaper, better beer in the same pub) it will be best for all.
Tim
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 09:49
Hmmm - to use your analogy, if the people in the pub thought that they could get cheaper and better beer and had already chosen to drink in that pub, then they'd speak to the existing pub to get them to change their beer - wouldn't they?
Yes but the bloke who came in from the other pub still wouldn't be allowed to drink in there would he ?
i'm not saying the club shouldn't listen Tim, or that nothing needs fixing, i agree it does 100%.
but Dom is looking for suppport and IMO tried to take the series away from the club... you were at the meeting with me and the others... you saw and heard what was said and who was running it.
everton
20-Oct-2006, 09:50
its the same old story in that most have no real committment in DD.
Wrong, every paid up member of the DSC has made a commitment to DD whether, in retrospect or otherwise, they want to.
Also, answer me this Dickie as you appear (to me anyway) to have strong and vocal views about DD.
I want to get a team into DD for 2007. I have a very good budget, lucky to get some amazing sponsorship and possibly a very quick rider (who is also watching these developments with interest). We might do very well if we can buy and prep the right bike.
We want to do it fairly and we want to do it right in a tight knit series!
Will we get that Dickie? Can you assure me that people will not cheat or try to divide the series etc, etc?
I love motorcycle racing but I'm **** at doing it!
I'm a director of two businesses - I'm good at management!
You're selling to me now Dickie ... with everything that has gone on ... should we do it? Persuade me?
[QUOTE=weeksyracing]
Hmmm - to use your analogy, if the people in the pub thought that they could get cheaper and better beer and had already chosen to drink in that pub, then they'd speak to the existing pub to get them to change their beer - wouldn't they?
This is what's happening with the DD and DSC, some ideas for improvement have been suggested and we feel that if we can get them within the existing framework (cheaper, better beer in the same pub) it will be best for all.
Tim
Quite so, but what do you do if da management choose for what they feel are their own valid reasons to run the pub as they see fit, i.e. leave beer and prices as they are?
Do you continue to complain or leave?? Continue complaing and then what happens??...........the dreaded words............You're barred, the Licence holder has the right to serve who he/she sees fit.
Time will tell who is right surely?
The market decides,
Ray.
You're missing the point Dickie....
Dom is a member of this site..and this series....
he's trying to removed this club from the equation and take it away from DSc...
Am I? :confused:
p.s IT'S NOT ABOUT DD... it's about right and wrong... it's about ettiquette, form, and doing the right thing.
Coming from you!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 09:58
Am I? :confused:
FFS Dom.... YES.... How you can possibly attempt to backtrack and remove yourself from this is truely beyond all comprehension.
you were there, i was there... myself and others asked you specific questions, you answered them as an organiser/part of the breakaway series...
you were touted by Mike Winter as being part of the breakaway group, you, butch, AK, the guy on the floor (apologies i missed who he was) and Mike...
I was sober as i only had 1 beer.
but Dom is looking for suppport
Am I?
...and IMO tried to take the series away from the club...
I did?
you were at the meeting with me and the others... you saw and heard what was said and who was running it.
Who was running it?
Can you assure me that people will not cheat or try to divide the series etc, etc?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That made I larf!!
I didn't cheat, rode a totally stock bike, probably the most stock bike on the grid - and I did ok.
:rolleyes:
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 10:01
Am I?
I did?
Who was running it?
Mike Winter... you know... the bloke standing in the corner reading it all out.... "i am part of the group looking to break away from DSC and set up a new series, it will be called something like the Ducati cup"
**** was i in some alternate reality that night ?
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 10:02
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That made I larf!!
I didn't cheat, rode a totally stock bike, probably the most stock bike on the grid - and I did ok.
:rolleyes:
What Ducati are your brake disks from ?
What Ducati are your brake disks from ?
What Ducati are your brake discs from?
Yamaha? oh, you don't even have a Ducati? or a DD bike?
Hrmm... how about you read the rules and then protest me?
:rolleyes:
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 10:17
What Ducati are your brake discs from?
Yamaha? oh, you don't even have a Ducati? or a DD bike?
Hrmm... how about you read the rules and then protest me?
:rolleyes:
So here is a rule from this years DD regulations:
1.6.6 Brakes
Front and rear brake discs may be changed.
The brake disc carriers must be from an OEM Ducati fitment.
Replacement brake discs must be from an OEM Ducati fitment.
So, in answer to my question, on your Cadwell bike, what disks are fitted ?
p.s. i can ASSURE you.... if you're in the series next season, you will be protested more than once.... and yeah, it will be my money being handed over.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 10:18
Mike Winter... you know... the bloke standing in the corner reading it all out.... "i am part of the group looking to break away from DSC and set up a new series, it will be called something like the Ducati cup"
**** was i in some alternate reality that night ?
thoughts Dom ?
So here is a rule from this years DD regulations:
1.6.6 Brakes
Front and rear brake discs may be changed.
The brake disc carriers must be from an OEM Ducati fitment.
Replacement brake discs must be from an OEM Ducati fitment.
So, in answer to my question, on your Cadwell bike, what disks are fitted ?
p.s. i can ASSURE you.... if you're in the series next season, you will be protested more than once.... and yeah, it will be my money being handed over.
My discs are within the rules.
...and I hope you're feeling rich :frog:
:lol:
thoughts Dom ?
Yes, you're right. MW did speak at the rider meeting.
Rattler
20-Oct-2006, 10:21
[QUOTE=Rattler]
Quite so, but what do you do if da management choose for what they feel are their own valid reasons to run the pub as they see fit, i.e. leave beer and prices as they are?
Do you continue to complain or leave?? Continue complaing and then what happens??...........the dreaded words............You're barred, the Licence holder has the right to serve who he/she sees fit.
Time will tell who is right surely?
The market decides,
Ray.
If the management don't listen to what's being asked of them or worse still, not understand why they are being asked to change then they will not ultimately prosper.
But if that pub is the only pub in town, they may feel that they don't have to listen to all of the issues raised by the fee paying punters. And take a stance that says I will keep my beer the same and priced as it is.
If the punters don't feel they have a realistic (or easy) chioice then they will go elsewhere eventually, but will kick up a big stink before they do.
As for barring someone, that might be a dangerous move as he may have the underlying support of the majority of the drinkers and they might also take a stance and not drink in that pub either.
Besides, Mr Banned might run a mini-bus company and run regular evening trips to the pub in the next town!! ;)
Tim
p.s. i can ASSURE you.... if you're in the series next season, you will be protested more than once.... and yeah, it will be my money being handed over.
Are you being smart by announcing that? :rolleyes:
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 10:22
Yes, you're right. MW did speak at the rider meeting.
Did i ask you questions as an organiser/part of the breakaway group ?
did you answer them ?
[QUOTE=Ray]
If the management don't listen to what's being asked of them or worse still, not understand why they are being asked to change then they will not ultimately prosper.
But if that pub is the only pub in town, they may feel that they don't have to listen to all of the issues raised by the fee paying punters. And take a stance that says I will keep my beer the same and priced as it is.
If the punters don't feel they have a realistic (or easy) chioice then they will go elsewhere eventually, but will kick up a big stink before they do.
As for barring someone, that might be a dangerous move as he may have the underlying support of the majority of the drinkers and they might also take a stance and not drink in that pub either.
Besides, Mr Banned might run a mini-bus company and run regular evening trips to the pub in the next town!! ;)
Tim
He may even open a bar in Spain?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
[QUOTE=Ray]
If the management don't listen to what's being asked of them or worse still, not understand why they are being asked to change then they will not ultimately prosper.
But if that pub is the only pub in town, they may feel that they don't have to listen to all of the issues raised by the fee paying punters. And take a stance that says I will keep my beer the same and priced as it is.
If the punters don't feel they have a realistic (or easy) chioice then they will go elsewhere eventually, but will kick up a big stink before they do.
As for barring someone, that might be a dangerous move as he may have the underlying support of the majority of the drinkers and they might also take a stance and not drink in that pub either.
Besides, Mr Banned might run a mini-bus company and run regular evening trips to the pub in the next town!! ;)
Tim
very true!
Did i ask you questions as an organiser/part of the breakaway group ?
I dunno, did you ask me questions as an organiser?
did you answer them ?
I expect I gave you my opinion - it is me afterall!!
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 10:24
My discs are within the rules.
:lol:
Can you clarify please ?
these are Ducati OEM disks ? as fitted to what machine in particular ? i'm intrigued to know.
dickieducati
20-Oct-2006, 10:24
sorry i've got lost in all this, one question....
where is this pub you're all talking about, and do they do smirnoff ice cheap too?
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 10:25
I dunno, did you ask me questions as an organiser?
I expect I gave you my opinion - it is me afterall!!
Yes i did....
Yes you did.
You recall ?
"mike, who are the members of the breakaway group organising the new series " (Chris Wood)
"Myself, Chass, Dom, Graham, AK, (randdom bloke i forget)" (Mike Winter)
Can you clarify please ?
these are Ducati OEM disks ? as fitted to what machine in particular ? i'm intrigued to know.
I think you'll find that will cost you £300.
Save it for next season. You can't protest me two weeks AFTER a race meeting, we may have changed them!!
:o
Yes i did....
Yes you did.
You recall ?
"mike, who are the members of the breakaway group organising the new series "
"Myself, Chass, Dom, Graham, AK, (randdom bloke i forget)"
Your recall isn't as good as you make out is it :lol:
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 10:27
Your recall isn't as good as you make out is it :lol:
it's good enough thanks...
you ignore all the points you can't/don't want to answer.
You accuse the RC/MT of doing the same thing.... and you're equally as bad in this thread.
sorry i've got lost in all this, one question....
where is this pub you're all talking about, and do they do smirnoff ice cheap too?
I'll have to email you Dickie. You know we can't discuss alternative drinking holes on here!!
I'll send an email out to selected members.
:rolleyes:
it's good enough thanks...
you ignore all the points you can't/don't want to answer.
You accuse the RC/MT of doing the same thing.... and you're equally as bad in this thread.
Oh dear. I must be guilty of everything you said then :o
Weeksy for Chairman!!!!
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 10:31
Oh dear. I must be guilty of everything you said then :o
Weeksy for Chairman!!!!
so what OEM disks are you running (were running at Cadwell) then please Dom ?
You can ignore all the other stuff about the meeting, by ignoring and avoiding it you're proving my point and showing your guilt. thanks.
so what OEM disks are you running (were running at Cadwell) then please Dom ?
You can ignore all the other stuff about the meeting, by ignoring and avoiding it you're proving my point and showing your guilt. thanks.
My pleasure. Fill your boots.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 10:36
My pleasure. Fill your boots.
So what disks were you running at Cadwell that are OEM disks ?
So what disks were you running at Cadwell that are OEM disks ?
OEM Ducati ones - like in the rules.
Jeez you're slow!
.....This is like asking who protested and paid for the strip of Domski's bike LOL!!! you'll never get an answer but I'll continue to watch people bang their heads against a brick wall it's cheap entertainment :D
so what OEM disks are you running (were running at Cadwell) then please Dom ?
You can ignore all the other stuff about the meeting, by ignoring and avoiding it you're proving my point and showing your guilt. thanks.
The ones on the red wheels or the ones on the grey wheels?
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 10:44
The ones on the red wheels or the ones on the grey wheels?
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/773773/EIVPB-DSC00061.JPG
these ones Chass... i was asked and questioned by a couple of people as to whether they are standard OEM Ducati units.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/773773/EIVPB-DSC00061.JPG
these ones Chass... i was asked and questioned by a couple of people as to whether they are standard OEM Ducati units.
Sorry the green wheels I forget which end has which, they are Ducati lots of people are running them coz it,s a ducati series.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 11:01
Sorry the green wheels I forget which end has which, they are Ducati lots of people are running them coz it,s a ducati series.
Interesting.... no-one who asked me about them seemed to recognise them... but i'll take your word for it.
Interesting.... no-one who asked me about them seemed to recognise them.
Why didn't you ask us on the day Weeksy? We could have gone through the whole bike if you wanted. We have no secrets - well, apart from how the bike is so fast ;)
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 11:07
Why didn't you ask us on the day Weeksy? We could have gone through the whole bike if you wanted. We have no secrets - well, apart from how the bike is so fast ;)
it was only pointed out to me via email on Weds. I didn't look at anyones bike apart from the one i was looking after and swapping wheels on for my mate.
OK, furry muff.
I didn't realise people were so interested in our bike to study it in photo's!
Thank god we kept the fairing on!!
dukess1999
20-Oct-2006, 11:19
The disk carriers look like they are from an Aprillia RSV, the disks themselves are identical to the narrow band ones on the 748R, 996R, 998R.
Interesting.... no-one who asked me about them seemed to recognise them... but i'll take your word for it.
If you take a good look at many of the bikes theres lots stuff you won't recognise some of it is home made, some off other bikes & even ducati stuff & I think it's great to see such improvisng & then there are people like you that nit pick & try to put people down.
Now I'v told you before don't get involved in something that is nothing to do with you & stop trying to stir the shite just go & play with all the others out there that have little else to do.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 11:45
Now I'v told you before don't get involved in something that is nothing to do with you & stop trying to stir the shite just go & play with all the others out there that have little else to do.
Listen Chass, you never have and never WILL tell me what to do.. I will say and do anything i fancy whether you like it or not. Don't speak to me like you speak to the piece of dirt on the floor sonny.
simple as that.
Listen Chass, you never have and never WILL tell me what to do.. I will say and do anything i fancy whether you like it or not. Don't speak to me like you speak to the piece of dirt on the floor sonny.
simple as that.
And you had the cheek to ask Chass to 'borrow' some oil at Oulton for your R1 that was drinking it. And he gave it to you!
And you call him sonny whilst lecturing him on how he speaks to you ...
Unbelievable.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 11:50
And you had the cheek to ask Chass to 'borrow' some oil at Oulton for your R1 that was drinking it. And he gave it to you!
And you call him sonny whilst lecturing him on how he speaks to you ...
Unbelievable.
When someone tries to TELL me what i can or can't do, and speaks to me like a child, i will put them in their place (as i see it).
no discussion, no debate.
p.s. i didn't ask Chass for Oil, i didn't speak a single word to the guy or even acknowledge him all weekend, i don't like him.
When someone tries to TELL me what i can or can't do, and speaks to me like a child, i will put them in their place (as i see it).
no discussion, no debate.
p.s. i didn't ask Chass for Oil, i didn't speak a single word to the guy or even acknowledge him all weekend, i don't like him.
I was standing right there when you did ask! And he then gave it to you!
And you still didn't address why you think you can lecture him on how to speak to you whilst you call him 'sonny'.
When someone tries to TELL me what i can or can't do, and speaks to me like a child, i will put them in their place (as i see it).
no discussion, no debate.
p.s. i didn't ask Chass for Oil, i didn't speak a single word to the guy or even acknowledge him all weekend, i don't like him.
yes you did & you used my polish onyou bike & you walked around our padock area like you owned it.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 11:57
yes you did & you used my polish onyou bike & you walked around our padock area like you owned it.
that was Oulton not Cadwell, you were OK back in them days.
Then you turned against the club and the series and tried to take it over for yourself, pretty much the exact time i stopped respecting you and you became irrelevent.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 11:59
I was standing right there when you did ask! And he then gave it to you!
And you still didn't address why you think you can lecture him on how to speak to you whilst you call him 'sonny'.
Apologies, i thought you meant Cadwell where i borrowed Oil from Fil2.
You are right i did.
I'll call him Sonny all i like. It was for effect and seems to have done the job beautifully.
that was Oulton not Cadwell, you were OK back in them days.
Then you turned against the club and the series and tried to take it over for yourself, pretty much the exact time i stopped respecting you and you became irrelevent.
I said Oulton in my post - looks like you made a mistake and are backpedalling - again ...
So, what about you lecturing chass about how to speak to whilst calling him 'sonny' eh? Hypocrisy?
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 12:00
yes you did & you used my polish onyou bike & you walked around our padock area like you owned it.
Your paddock area LOL.... YOURS ???
its'a bit of car park, not an exclusive mansion.
Apologies, i thought you meant Cadwell where i borrowed Oil from Fil2.
You are right i did.
I'll call him Sonny all i like. It was for effect and seems to have done the job beautifully.
Ahhh, so you admit you're on a wind up and being hypocritical.
:lol:
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 12:00
I said Oulton in my post - looks like you made a mistake and are backpedalling - again ...
So, what about you lecturing chass about how to speak to whilst calling him 'sonny' eh? Hypocrisy?
i apologised... i can admit when i'm wrong.
Like i said, it was said for effect, perfect :) did the intended job nicely.
Your paddock area LOL.... YOURS ???
its'a bit of car park, not an exclusive mansion.
Yeah, you know, the bit under the AWNING ON HIS MOTORHOME that you kept strutting through like it was yours.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 12:02
Ahhh, so you admit you're on a wind up and being hypocritical.
:lol:
i admit i don't like the guy, i admit i said it to be as condescendding as he was being to me....
anything else you'd like me to admit to ?
i apologised... i can admit when i'm wrong.
Like i said, it was said for effect, perfect :) did the intended job nicely.
You apologised for mistaking Cadwell from Oulton, not for calling Chass sonny ... so?
oh no he didn't................oh yes he did................oh no he didn't ...............oh yes he did................oh no he didn't............................oh yes he did................oh no he didn't.................. oh no he didn't................oh yes he did................oh no he didn't............................oh yes he did................oh no he didn't............................oh yes he did................oh no he didn't ................oh yes he did................oh no he didn't
Any of you lot free around christmas time? :lol:
r
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 12:03
Yeah, you know, the bit under the AWNING ON HIS MOTORHOME that you kept strutting through like it was yours.
ahahahaha ridiculous... you really want an argument about which part of the paddock i did or didn't walk on ?
Come on... be serious.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 12:04
You apologised for mistaking Cadwell from Oulton, not for calling Chass sonny ... so?
i won't be apologising for that.
ahahahaha ridiculous... you really want an argument about which part of the paddock i did or didn't walk on ?
Come on... be serious.
Not so much walked as swaggerd around chap.
i won't be apologising for that.
Ok, so far we've established that although you've been all holier than thou you're more than happy to be:
Deliberately trying to wind people up, on an excrement stir, as it were
Hypocritical
I'm glad we've cleared that up and the rest of the board can clearly see WHY you're posting as you're posting.
I thank you.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 12:09
Ok, so far we've established that although you've been all holier than thou you're more than happy to be:
Deliberately trying to wind people up, on an excrement stir, as it were
Hypocritical
I'm glad we've cleared that up and the rest of the board can clearly see WHY you're posting as you're posting.
I thank you.
i'm sick of this debate TP, as you can clearly see, Chass made a comment directed to me to cause me to take umbridge at. Thereofre i posted in a confrontational manner in order to make my point that i won't be spoken to like that.
it's done... it's gone... get over it and move along.
dickieducati
20-Oct-2006, 12:10
oh no he didn't................oh yes he did................oh no he didn't ...............oh yes he did................oh no he didn't............................oh yes he did................oh no he didn't.................. oh no he didn't................oh yes he did................oh no he didn't............................oh yes he did................oh no he didn't............................oh yes he did................oh no he didn't ................oh yes he did................oh no he didn't
Any of you lot free around christmas time? :lol:
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lol.
Apologies, i thought you meant Cadwell where i borrowed Oil from Fil2.
You are right i did.
I'll call him Sonny all i like. It was for effect and seems to have done the job beautifully.
IT was not fils oil to give you.
"O" & can you please return as it was only loaned.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 12:14
IT was not fils oil to give you.
"O" & can you please return as it was only loaned.
PM me your address, i will put 1L of whatever type of oil you would like in the post.
or send me a paypal account and i will pay £5.
i'm sick of this debate TP, as you can clearly see, Chass made a comment directed to me to cause me to take umbridge at. Thereofre i posted in a confrontational manner in order to make my point that i won't be spoken to like that.
it's done... it's gone... get over it and move along.
You'r the guy that keeps kicking up the craap chap.
PM me your address, i will put 1L of whatever type of oil you would like in the post.
or send me a paypal account and i will pay £5.
Don't patronize me I would rather talk about you.
Is this going anywhere guys? If its a personal thing, can you take it off line?
Just asking nicely like.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 12:52
Is this going anywhere guys? If its a personal thing, can you take it off line?
Just asking nicely like.
i've given up Jools... i've lost the will to live.
Won't happen again in public fella.
Is this going anywhere guys? If its a personal thing, can you take it off line?
Just asking nicely like.
being as you asked nicely jools. now what can talk about, maybe christmas that's not far away.
Dougducati
20-Oct-2006, 13:30
I hate christmas!!!
philthy
20-Oct-2006, 13:36
I hate christmas!!!
Larf? I nearly wet meself.. Perfect :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I hate christmas!!!
Somebody had to mess the thread up, wots wrong with chistmas.:D
Dougducati
20-Oct-2006, 13:43
Somebody had to mess the thread up, wots rong with chistmas.:D
Cos it ends up like SOME of the threads on this site. People that don't see each other very often get together, have too much to drink and end up having a big row!!!!
I'd rather stick with a couple of beers and fall asleep watching The Great Escape.
philthy
20-Oct-2006, 14:06
Cos it ends up like SOME of the threads on this site. People that don't see each other very often get together, have too much to drink and end up having a big row!!!!
I'd rather stick with a couple of beers and fall asleep watching The Great Escape.
Apparently Steve did all the stunts himself.
Apparently Steve did all the stunts himself.
Yep & the bike looks a little to modern to me.
Apparently Steve did all the stunts himself.
I've heard that is an urban myth - I saw a documentary a while back that stated that McQueen did not do the jump (although he did most or all of the other stuff).
beancounter
20-Oct-2006, 14:14
Apparently Steve did all the stunts himself.
Oh no he didn't
Paul James
20-Oct-2006, 14:24
FFS Dom.... YES.... How you can possibly attempt to backtrack and remove yourself from this is truely beyond all comprehension.
you were there, i was there... myself and others asked you specific questions, you answered them as an organiser/part of the breakaway series...
you were touted by Mike Winter as being part of the breakaway group, you, butch, AK, the guy on the floor (apologies i missed who he was) and Mike...
I was sober as i only had 1 beer.
Did I really do something stupid like take a morning off ?. I should have known better !
Steve. Direct question to put an end to this. Are you categorically stating here that the people you list are all members of the breakaway group ? If so this is a public statement and we (the MT) will have no alternative but to investigate this serious allegation and report our findings to the membership.
The whole sorry affair has to be sorted out and a line drawn under it.
I'm not personally interested at this point what brake discs Domininc used last season, if anybody was that bothered about it they should have put in a protest during the season.
What I am bothered about is that all this has done no good to the club.
We (the MT) already have information about the meeting which took place at Cadwell behind closed doors, excluding the MT/RC, ironically the alleged orchestrators of this meeting are the very same people who are constantly using the same old "openness and transparency" mantra.
Well for my money anybody who wants to trust such a fine example of "openness and transparency" are welcome to join that group in their new series. It will be interesting to see who will stand up and be accountable when things go wrong. Not my problem thank goodness.
To set the record straight, at no time prior to or subsequent to the Cadwell meeting did any representative of that "group" lobby the MT/RC. They have not extended us the courtesy of even providing a list of their demands.
You (the riders) however were all invited to submit questions for the rider survey and all were included in the survey that ALL riders subsequently had emailed to them. Ironically the very person who bleated on and on about why it was taking so long for the survey to be finalised didn't even bother to fill it in and return it. Funny old world innit ?
The other thing that you, the members of this club have soon, (18th November) is a meeting where we can discuss what we want to do for next year, it will be open and transparent. (further details will be posted here shortly and in the next issue of Pronto)
So maybe time to lock this thread webteam and send any further information by email. The MT will investigate all your allegations fairly and will publish their findings in due course. It is a pity it has all come to this but we've now been given no choice.
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 14:32
Did I really do something stupid like take a morning off ?. I should have known better !
Steve. Direct question to put an end to this. Are you categorically stating here that the people you list are all members of the breakaway group ? If so this is a public statement and we (the MT) will have no alternative but to investigate this serious allegation and report our findings to the membership.
My statement is this.
At the meeting, Mike Winter informed all in the room that Chass, Dom, Ak, Graham Butcher, Mike himself, and the random guy that they were all members of the breakaway group.
Amazingly out of the 30+ witnesses who were also present, they all seem to have missed it or have forgotten with mass amnesia.
everton
20-Oct-2006, 14:55
My statement is this.
At the meeting, Mike Winter informed all in the room that Chass, Dom, Ak, Graham Butcher, Mike himself, and the random guy that they were all members of the breakaway group.
Amazingly out of the 30+ witnesses who were also present, they all seem to have missed it or have forgotten with mass amnesia.
Steve,
Please be very clear and unambiguous about this because you've just named a couple of people in that list who I count as friends.
If this is indeed true then I am really sorry and I have misjudged this situation completely. By that I don't include Domski and Chass as they are doing enough to hang themselves anyway but there are others who I wouldn't have wanted to be sanctioned by the club. By the way there are people supporting what you say, they just don't want to get involved, quite understandably.
The MT will have to take an all or nothing approach I'm afraid - this will be the club's strongest test yet.
Still it's just made my mind up about a couple of things :(
weeksyracing
20-Oct-2006, 14:57
Steve,
Please be very clear and unambiguous about this because you've just named a couple of people in that list who I count as friends.
If this is indeed true then I am really sorry and I have misjudged this situation completely. By that I don't include Domski and Chass as they are doing enough to hang themselves anyway but there are others who I wouldn't have wanted to be sanctioned by the club. By the way there are people supporting what you say, they just don't want to get involved, quite understandably.
The MT will have to take an all or nothing approach I'm afraid - this will be the club's strongest test yet.
Still it's just made my mind up about a couple of things :(
Dave the only baffling thing to me is that i'm the only person standing here and saying it. It's confusing beyond comprehension.
These were Mike W's EXACT words (apart from not calling him Random bloke on the floor ;) )
i couldn't be any more confused by the lack of input from the other 30+ people in there.
everton
20-Oct-2006, 14:59
Dave the only baffling thing to me is that i'm the only person standing here and saying it. It's confusing beyond comprehension.
These were Mike W's EXACT words (apart from not calling him Random bloke on the floor ;) )
i couldn't be any more confused by the lack of input from the other 30+ people in there.
:( :(
everton
20-Oct-2006, 15:19
Webteam, please lock/close/whatever this thread now.
Any process from this point forward should not be for public consumption - my last word anyway! :(
Webteam please lock this thread now.
Some serious allegations have been made which the MT has been dealing with. Information within this thread has confirmed what we have been told and has implicated additional members which means we now have more to deal with. This will be done in a timely and professional manor in the best interest's of the Ducati Sporting Club.
John Montgomery
Chairman
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