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VanDaMauler

29-Oct-2006, 13:44

Call me suspicous but did that whole race seem a little wierd?

Rossi wasnt his usual self, my question is....

How much money could Rossi and his people around him make from him losing?

Knowing the odds against him losing and Hayden winning?

He was odds on for the win, millions of pounds bet against him losing would see him come away with a shed load....

I`m sure the Mafia have Rossi`s family member hostage somewhere..

Oh well, Bayliss a win, Caparossi second, Ducati one,two....Wow!!!

Very strange race though...and I dont think Hayden deserves it.

ariel

29-Oct-2006, 14:41

You have a strange outlook on life!

888heaven

29-Oct-2006, 15:22

If ever there was a time when a draw would have been appropiate today was the day Rossi for coming back to lead after so much bad luck(that did'nt end today)and Hayden to live a lifelong dream.
The end for Rossi had to come in the end but what a shame it was to bad luck rather than a better rider I dont think Hayden will hold onto the title next year there are far better riders out there to take the title (Bayliss where are you what a rider)
As for a Mafia stitch up leave that to F1 and Horse racing more bent than Julian Clary,Rossi would have sold his soul to win today this is one rider that does'nt talk surrender.
With all these fast riders coming through a new bike what of next year?

neilkeogh

29-Oct-2006, 17:48

Brilliant for TB!! Ducati 1st and 2nd even better!!

but I for one am genuinely pleased for Hayden, whether he hangs on to it next year who knows/cares as long as the racing is good

800s next year will make it a level playing field so roll on March 2007!!!!!!!

chicken

29-Oct-2006, 17:59

First, everyone goes slow in qualifying to make Rossi look better and widen the odds (McCoy was included in this sidepot as well because, even though the bike was too slow to make a difference, they felt bad for him).

Then Rossi crashes out but makes sure that the bike doesn't stall so it looks like he might still have a chance.

Finally, Hayden makes sure that there is clear space in front and behind him just in case anyone bashes him. In a small court in Alabama last week, Hayden was granted a restraining order requiring Pedrosa to stay at least 50 feet from him.

I've been in on this for a week and will be down to Ladbrokes to collect my winnings tomorrow - didn't you get Dibble's text message? :lol:

pedro

29-Oct-2006, 18:22

Davieravie

29-Oct-2006, 21:50

fair play to hayden,hes clearly not the best rider,rossi is much more exciting to watch over the season. if rossi went to f1 it would be a big loss to moto-gp,if hayden did the same it would it really matter? the dvd review will be a bore watching hayden this year.did he win today?

:confused: :confused: As Richard McAshcroft said Pedro........the drugs dinnae work. Came back from Crail thrash and found underneath charlatan on my bike :eek: :eek: and watched it about 7pm....total surprise...Well done Hayden!

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Davieravie

29-Oct-2006, 21:57

And again!!!!!!!!! :D

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Davieravie

29-Oct-2006, 21:59

She's taking the **** now!!!!!

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888heaven

29-Oct-2006, 22:02

Is that Suzi Perry's night job, she was'nt by the side of the track where Rossi fell off ?

Davieravie

29-Oct-2006, 22:12

Is that Suzi Perry's night job, she was'nt by the side of the track where Rossi fell off ?

I asked her but she had her gob full!!!! ;)

sye73

29-Oct-2006, 22:13

I say well done Nicky Hayden. He rode hard all season and I think he deserved the world title

900MAN

29-Oct-2006, 22:18

Really ****ed that Hayden 'won'
Rossi is such a more talented rider it's a ****take when on the face of it an 'average' rider gets the title.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

900MAN

29-Oct-2006, 22:19

For god's sake is PI*S such a bad word?

888heaven

29-Oct-2006, 22:23

apparentley only when your taking it

TopiToo

29-Oct-2006, 22:35

Hello

well done Hayden and Troy/Ducati

:)

TopiToo

ducati dad

29-Oct-2006, 23:41

In my honest opinion, if that had been Hayden who lowsided into the gravel he'd have done the same as before.... pounded the gravel and cried in his lid. Rossi was trying to get to his feet before he even stopped sliding, got the bike up and went back racing. I know where my respect goes.

jeff st4s

30-Oct-2006, 00:00

Really ****ed that Hayden 'won'
Rossi is such a more talented rider it's a ****take when on the face of it an 'average' rider gets the title.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

It's a shame that an awesome season like we have just seen, has been let down by the best rider who never really makes a mistake. :(
I was gutted for Rossi, I so wanted him to win it, Mr average points finish Hayden has just de-valued this years championship, he didn't win it, he was given it on a plate.

Herb

30-Oct-2006, 08:07

I don't think Hayden's win has devalued the championship. I think having the same rider, even one a great as Rossi, win every time devalues it.

Just think how good next season could be now, and how hungry Rossi will be. I think this is good for the sport, especially as we go into the new 800cc era.

I think next season will be close between Rossi, Capirossi and Pedrosa.

FiscusFish

30-Oct-2006, 08:38

The points difference was what 5 points in the end. Exactly the same as the difference between 1st and second. Haydon and Honda owe Elias a VERY large drink......

jeff st4s

30-Oct-2006, 09:12

I don't think Hayden's win has devalued the championship. I think having the same rider, even one a great as Rossi, win every time devalues it.

I think next season will be close between Rossi, Capirossi and Pedrosa.

Well it's good to have a different opinion, but Hayden beat Rossi at Laguna. At Assen, Rossi was injured? if my memory fails me, you can say he won the mind war to make him fall off, but I doubt it. So he beat him here? not really.
After those 2 wins where did Hayden beat Rossi?
It was more like Honda beat Yamaha.
I just think Rossi fought harder and deserved it more, but he made a mistake and paid the price.
I was bored when Schumacher walked to some of his titles, but wanted him to actually win this last one for what he had been through, for me the same with Rossi.
I think he earned this one more than some of the others titles he walked to, but I suppose the sport is made up of riders that should have won, but never did, so Rossi became one of those this year.
Great minds think alike, as who are the main contenders for next year, they were the 3 that I immediately thought of, if Hayden was in the same league as them, you would have put him in there, if he was the best?
He was GIVEN the title courtesy of Yamaha, he won nothing! :lol: :lol:

Ozz

30-Oct-2006, 09:40

The points difference was what 5 points in the end. Exactly the same as the difference between 1st and second. Haydon and Honda owe Elias a VERY large drink......

I was thinking that myself last night! I guess if Vale had had the extra 5 he would have won courtesy of more wins?

30-Oct-2006, 10:18

I was thinking that myself last night! I guess if Vale had had the extra 5 he would have won courtesy of more wins?

Yep, Vale would have walked away with it if they were even on points.

Rossi has had a lot of luck in his career so I guess he was just due. He showed his ability to come back from such a deficit and proved he was a real champion fighter just by doing that.

I'm really looking forward to next year, for a lot of reasons, but the new 800cc era will throw a few surprises I reckon. Watch the former 250 riders come to prominence, Vale did alright on those as I remember. Has Hayden ridden 250's much in AMA? I know he won the AMA SBK title but not sure if he's ever spent much time on a small bike?

Capirex will do well, he always does!

It will be as tight as Desmo Due next year! :D

Chrisiball

30-Oct-2006, 18:38

Hayden deserved the title, granted Rossi is the greatest rider the planet has ever seen and things have been stacked against him all year! But Haydens been so solid and consistant, cant believe so many people jump on Rossis bum chum band wagon. If Hayden had needed the extra points he would have pushed for the win he was all over the capirossi until he backed it down why would he risk throwing it down the road on a pointless move!!!

mazpillion

30-Oct-2006, 19:02

The championship is won by the rider who has accrued most points in the season - whether he is an exciting rider, or a steady rider, matters not - it's the points that decide.....
Yes, it would have been nice to see Rossi see out the litre GP, but it is also good to have someone else win for a change. Hayden is never going to be another Rossi, but points is points....... my 0.02 cents worth......
I predict pedrobot to win next year.........the new 800 fits him like a glove, whereas Rossi looks......too big for it.....?????:o

Mad Dog Bianchi

31-Oct-2006, 06:28

Aw c'mon, give Hayden a break. The guy rode his heart out all year and deserves accolades for a smooth, though unexciting championship charge. Rossi is great, rides like a demon and was bound to low or high side sometime. Hayden is champ and deservedly so, but it is too bad Ducks were hit with some bad luck mid-season. They were really competitive this year and this last race showed how fast they really are.
800's, hmmmmmm, will the regs make them any slower?

749er

31-Oct-2006, 07:30

Didn't Hayden only win because the Lord blessed him and no one else? Arrogant P***k!

ariel

31-Oct-2006, 09:20

Didn't Hayden only win because the Lord blessed him and no one else? Arrogant P***k!

Why have you got such a chip on your shoulder?

Brogins

31-Oct-2006, 12:12

I am still under shock as most of the italians rider here... slowly digesting that Hayden is the motogp world champion. At the end, Valentino is a human being - we were starting to think that he was a martian - well may be just kenny Roberts was.
I am happy for the kentucky boy.. sad for the Rossi as he could have been the only rider to win motogp 1000 - and the only one not to be beat anymore as starting next year will be 800 -

jeff st4s

31-Oct-2006, 12:31

Aw c'mon, give Hayden a break. The guy rode his heart out all year and deserves accolades for a smooth, though unexciting championship charge.

I'm sure we can say the same for most of the riders, that they ALL rode there hearts out, but that does not mean they deserve it. :(

749er

31-Oct-2006, 13:15

Why have you got such a chip on your shoulder?

I don't.

VanDaMauler

31-Oct-2006, 14:01

HONDA DID.

Haydon had the most points so HONDA stepped in and said to all the other Honda riders, they had to let him go in front of them...How obvious was it?

Pedrosa,Stoner and Elias were`nt even trying, they were there to keep the other`s at bay, all Haydon had to do was ride around and not crash.

The riders not under Honda team orders were either too fast (Ducati) or too slow (Kawasaki,suzuki and Yamaha)

But the rest of the honda`s were out there to make Haydons job easier..

Honda wanted the championship so badly they would have done anything, including taking one of Rossi`s relatives hostage somewhere...which I haven`t ruled out...

It was a very very strange race.

beancounter

31-Oct-2006, 14:11

Ozz

31-Oct-2006, 14:51

Have to say it did remind me of the France - Brazil world cup final a few years back.

Brazil went in as favourites and then Ronaldo had a fit and was as useful as a jelly. Rossi seemed the same way. His normal faultless riding and dicing just were not there.

I don't have a problem with Haydon winning the championship - just Honda!

VanDaMauler

31-Oct-2006, 16:36

Are you on drugs Van?

I may have just had a few "hits from the bong" why do you ask?

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macey46

31-Oct-2006, 16:43

I read somewhere this morning that Bayliss lead more laps after sundays race than Hayden did during the whole season! I think things like that sum up why so many people are dissappointed he won the championship.

Hopefully Loris, Rossi and Melandri can have an injury free season next year, and Stoner can stop crashing! Should be mega looking forward to it already!

749er

31-Oct-2006, 17:14

I read somewhere this morning that Bayliss lead more laps after sundays race than Hayden did during the whole season!.

Hopefully Loris, Rossi and Melandri can have an injury free season next year, and Stoner can stop crashing! Should be mega looking forward to it already!

amazing! will be more amazed if Stoner keeps it rubber side down

MJS

31-Oct-2006, 17:34

I don't see it as overly strange - Rossi doesn't go well at Valencia, never has - last year he crashed in qualifying and struggled in the race - maybe the circuit doesn't suit the Yamaha, but plenty of top riders don't like Valencia.

Hayden on the other hand was right on it there last year - pushed Melandri hard all the way for the win. It's left handed (suits Americans), and Hayden seems to like it. I always thought if it came down to Valencia Hayden would have the edge.

Honda have also done something to Hayden's bike over the last couple of weekends - from being uncompetitive in Brno, Philip Island, Sepang, Motegi - he suddenly went to Estoril and was right on the pace, and again at Valencia, the bike was much quicker than it had been elsewhere.

Consistency wins championships in any sport, ***** or bust doesn't (which Yamaha have been this year).

Also think Rossi was in a no-win by the last race - even if he had won Hayden would have blamed it on Pedrosa...

2 riders, 2 different styles, but overall Hayden and Honda just did a better job this year than Rossi and Yamaha (IMHO)

Mad Dog Bianchi

01-Nov-2006, 06:52

Finally, a little bit of sense thrown into this thread. Anyone who takes a world championship deserves accolades for what ever got him there outside of cheating. Rossi did not do well, but the ducks had even worse luck despite some great runs. Once the tires started to work, I was hoping for a Loris championship, but consistency won out. I have a feeling some folks don't like it cause Hayden is a yank. Kenny Roberts had his detractors as well. Life moves on.

psychlist

01-Nov-2006, 06:55

Life moves on.

Not until it's been argued to oblivion ;)

Jools

01-Nov-2006, 08:37

I may have just had a few "hits from the bong" why do you ask?

http://www.medhatblog.com/images/cb.jpg

Paul & Heather before the split ???

jodycraw

01-Nov-2006, 10:13

I'm sure we can say the same for most of the riders, that they ALL rode there hearts out, but that does not mean they deserve it. :(

Why don't they have a seperate championship for people that "deserve" to win, and those that add up a points tally to "actually" win! It is a points championship after all, so if a rider is unlucky to get injured/crash etc and miss races so be it.....

duck

01-Nov-2006, 14:30

Why don't they have a seperate championship for people that "deserve" to win, and those that add up a points tally to "actually" win! It is a points championship after all, so if a rider is unlucky to get injured/crash etc and miss races so be it.....

it's a team sport and if the bike's a pile of shi*te (relatively speaking) then it's down to others in the team to fix it.
he got it fair and square.

psychlist

01-Nov-2006, 14:41

Nah!
Put them ALL on 583 DD bikes and then let's see if they can REALLY cut the mustard ;)

beancounter

01-Nov-2006, 15:39

Nah!
Put them ALL on 583 DD bikes and then let's see if they can REALLY cut the mustard ;)

Here's a strange thing...

I thought that psychlist's post was so stupid that I would add him to my ignore list, but when I tried to do so the following message appeared :-

"sorry psychlist is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her"

wtf!!!!

I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

BDG

01-Nov-2006, 15:58

Here's a strange thing...

I thought that psychlist's post was so stupid that I would add him to my ignore list, but when I tried to do so the following message appeared :-

"sorry psychlist is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her"

wtf!!!!

I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Beanie, i'm not a moderator so can ignore me instead if you wish................
i said.........
hello........
bastid! you all ready do!

beancounter

01-Nov-2006, 15:59

Beanie, i'm not a moderator so can ignore me instead if you wish................
i said.........
hello........
bastid!

Nah, you make me laugh you muppet!

Mad Dog Bianchi

02-Nov-2006, 04:40

Yep, forgot that!

Mea culpa, mea culpa

Mad Dog Bianchi

02-Nov-2006, 04:42

Not until it's been argued to oblivion ;)
Yep, forgot that!

Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa!

psychlist

02-Nov-2006, 07:01

Here's a strange thing...

I thought that psychlist's post was so stupid that I would add him to my ignore list, but when I tried to do so the following message appeared :-

"sorry psychlist is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her"

wtf!!!!

I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Oooh! get you :lol: quite quaint ;) pardon me for trying to bring a little levity to such a dire topic that you lot seem determined to drag on until March :D