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Oi! Not like that!
A guy at work regularly goes off-roading and another mate I know has an off-roader and they've both been trying to convince me to spend a bit of time in the dirt over christmas ... I've just been cruising the bay of e, as you do, and spotted a few of these bad boys:
http://i11.ebayimg.com/01/i/08/bb/d9/f6_1.JPG
I can't afford one at the moment but does anyone have anything good or bad to say about these or their equivalents in other marque's?
rcgbob44
06-Nov-2006, 15:09
You kinky pervert!
You kinky pervert!
Shhh! My secret is out. ..
Just think of the endless possibilities ;)
Only to say that unless you sign up with a bike club and get to do a bit of Enduro or MX the number of places you can offroad is pretty limited in the SE and getting smaller all the time...thanks to Janit Schtweet Portah and all her rambling fanatics.
My brother helps run an off-road club and finds it more and more difficult to get venues for Enduros and stuff.
I haven't done any green laning for years but I do remember doing the entire length of the Ridgeway many years ago. Don't know what the current situation is but you probably couldn't do it now :(
Oh and get ready to have forearm pump and feel like you've just played a game against the all blacks after a hour or so
jeff st4s
06-Nov-2006, 15:52
2 strokes with the on/off power are more draining to ride regarding concentration, whereas 4 strokes are smoother and easier to get on with as a novice offroader, that's what I found out when I went to Wales recently for a weekend training.
Road 250 and 400 KTM's and a couple of 200/250 2 strokes and prefered the 4's.
I was just as quick as my mate on his 250 2 stroke and felt more comfortable.
andys 900ss
06-Nov-2006, 16:00
Have with agree with Jeff on the two strokers.
My cousin brought a KX250 Pro Circuit running on Av'gas. It was the most potent thing I've ever ridden, but it will make you a better rider in the end. A 4 stroke 125 will probably be better for the DD rider tho' ;)
Andy
VanDaMauler
06-Nov-2006, 16:02
Only to say that unless you sign up with a bike club and get to do a bit of Enduro or MX the number of places you can offroad is pretty limited in the SE and getting smaller all the time...thanks to Janit Schtweet Portah and all her rambling fanatics.
My brother helps run an off-road club and finds it more and more difficult to get venues for Enduros and stuff.
I haven't done any green laning for years but I do remember doing the entire length of the Ridgeway many years ago. Don't know what the current situation is but you probably couldn't do it now :(
Oh and get ready to have forearm pump and feel like you've just played a game against the all blacks after a hour or so
He`s right you know...
The whole of the Ridgeway is shut down to anything with an engine...
TP, where do your mates go off roading? I`ve been into the Idea for ages and bought a KTM Enduro/Supermoto for just that reason, it seemed as soon as I got it , they shut the Ridgeway down. (the Ridgeway was a legal offroad byway that ran for miles from Reading to oxford give or take a mile)
He`s right you know...
The whole of the Ridgeway is shut down to anything with an engine...
TP, where do your mates go off roading? I`ve been into the Idea for ages and bought a KTM Enduro/Supermoto for just that reason, it seemed as soon as I got it , they shut the Ridgeway down. (the Ridgeway was a legal offroad byway that ran for miles from Reading to oxford give or take a mile)
Bugger!
I'm not actually sure where they go to be honest. I've just been chatting to couchie and if I can get my poo together he's going to teah me how to wheelie :D
I love bikes me, what a load of fun!
WOOHOO!!!!!
Move up here, we'll show you a dirty time ;)
I haven't done any off roading for a year or so. Got half decent at trail riding and following Couch up stupidly big slopes, then hurt myself bad and went right back to square one. It can be fun, it can be frustrating and it will definitely involve pain at some point ;) If I can hoist the front wheel up on a 15bhp Serow I'm sure anyone can manage to squeeze a little wheelie out of an off roader ;)
it hurts!!
alot!!
even when you don't fall off!!
But great fun and worth it, but very limited as to where you can ride, particularly in the south east.
I would book an offroad weekend or get some mates to let you have a go first then find out if you would get the use from it first. Also need to consider if you would get a road legal bike or a motox bike as you will need to think about transport (van/trailer) if the later.
Harv748
06-Nov-2006, 16:43
As far as the bike in the piccie goes...CRF 250/450 is a great bike. I currently have a DR350, but hope to swap to a CRF 250 in the near future. Trust me, if you are new to off-road riding, you don't need 450 cc's!!!
As for places...your kind of half right...the ridgeway is closed from October till April...yes a big chunk of the year, but don't let the buggers grind you down. Its not all of the lanes that are now closed...if you have an OS map to hand and are willing to explore a little, its still possible to go out for the day and do a good few miles all off road.
In and around Oxfordshire we have been hit quite hard with the new laws regarding the Byways etc...but there is still a strong group of riders determined to keep going.
Brogins
06-Nov-2006, 17:20
Ciao TP...
I have TWO CRF450.. one MX competition (as per the picture) and one CRE450 road legal (model available only in Italy) .
I kinda of agree with all the comments made..in addition, it is GREAT FUN.
The 4strokers are easier to ride than two strokers, but more heavy. It is a trade off. For supercross I was more confident on the big jumps with the two stroke, as lighter and movable in the air. The 4 stroker are heavier and with a slight engine brake feeling. However the torque ( the 450 is a beast) is helpful a lot when going over obstacles. However do not think to use the clucth as a 2 stroker ..it will last a day!!.
Any questions on the honda..mail me!
Ciao
fabio
Two stroker off roaders are the spawn of Satan! They're bloody awesome, but tricky little gits to use and soooo fast. Last one I had a go on was Couch's KTM200. I managed to get into the bottom of a valley and stall it...could I get it to just pull me out slowly without wheel spinning and putting us both straight back down the hill again? Could I buggery! That said, on the big fire trails through the forest, flat stick and it makes perfect sense :) 4 strokes are definitely more user friendly.
TP, Van, Harv et al if you want to have a day or week end trail riding i'm more than willing to take you out up north.
I'm off to Wales this weekend where we've got the use of a lot of private land with a local farmer. He's promised us an 'interesting' time (read kill the English!):lol:
jeff st4s
07-Nov-2006, 11:52
Looks like a few of the DSC are happy to get dirty, maybe we might have to have some sort of gathering and see who ends up in the biggest mud puddle. :D
TP, Van, Harv et al if you want to have a day or week end trail riding i'm more than willing to take you out up north.
I'm off to Wales this weekend where we've got the use of a lot of private land with a local farmer. He's promised us an 'interesting' time (read kill the English!):lol:
I don't have a bike though big fella - otherwise I'd try and get something organised.
Harv748
07-Nov-2006, 11:59
Looks like a few of the DSC are happy to get dirty, maybe we might have to have some sort of gathering and see who ends up in the biggest mud puddle. :D
LOL...I'll win <<<<<<<
Sounds like a great idea though.
jeff st4s
07-Nov-2006, 12:01
LOL...I'll win <<<<<<<
Sounds like a great idea though.
It always makes me laugh when I see your avatar! :) :)
Harv748
07-Nov-2006, 12:03
Have you seen the video of it...clip of it somewhere...let me go find!
jeff st4s
07-Nov-2006, 12:07
Have you seen the video of it...clip of it somewhere...let me go find!
No, but would like to have a chortle if you don't mind. :) :)
Harv748
07-Nov-2006, 12:10
http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/showthread.php?t=29225&highlight=puddles
LOL
http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/showthread.php?t=29225&highlight=puddles
LOL
:lol:
I missed that first time around :) Very funny stuff
Harv748
07-Nov-2006, 12:27
I just watched it again for the first time in ages....makes me smile and giggle out 'loud.
I got some more video stuff somewhere...as were all getting dirty, I'll put another link up to get you in the mood.
Watch this space...back in a mo...
Harv748
07-Nov-2006, 12:29
After playing about with my new bullet cam and posting the footage up here a few weeks back, I have since been messing about with new and 'creative' locations for it whilst riding.
Check it out...big file at 25MB, and compressed so forgive the quality...but worth a download if you have good connection speed.
BEST WATCHED AT THE LOWEST RESOLUTION (OPTION UNDER THE VIEWING WINDOW)
...Enjoy!
http://media.putfile.com/DR350-bulletcam
Harv748
07-Nov-2006, 12:30
more...
http://media.putfile.com/DR350twisty
Harv748
07-Nov-2006, 12:30
mmmmm...both have been removed...wait a mo...
Have you just uploaded those Harv? Because they tell I've got an incorrectly typed URL
Harv748
07-Nov-2006, 12:36
Nah...they were put up last Jan...I think they remove them after a while of inactivity.
just uploading them again.
Nah...they were put up last Jan...I think they remove them after a while of inactivity.
just uploading them again.
Okey dokey.
Harv748
07-Nov-2006, 13:00
http://media.putfile.com/DR350-
does this work?
Harv748
07-Nov-2006, 13:04
Another to follow...
Harv748
07-Nov-2006, 13:21
http://media.putfile.com/Dr350-twisty
VanDaMauler
07-Nov-2006, 13:33
TP, Van, Harv et al if you want to have a day or week end trail riding i'm more than willing to take you out up north.
I'm off to Wales this weekend where we've got the use of a lot of private land with a local farmer. He's promised us an 'interesting' time (read kill the English!):lol:
Oooh I say!!! A dirty weekend up north, what would the neighbour think?
Sounds like fun :D
VanDaMauler
07-Nov-2006, 13:34
As far as the bike in the piccie goes...CRF 250/450 is a great bike. I currently have a DR350, but hope to swap to a CRF 250 in the near future. Trust me, if you are new to off-road riding, you don't need 450 cc's!!!
As for places...your kind of half right...the ridgeway is closed from October till April...yes a big chunk of the year, but don't let the buggers grind you down. Its not all of the lanes that are now closed...if you have an OS map to hand and are willing to explore a little, its still possible to go out for the day and do a good few miles all off road.
In and around Oxfordshire we have been hit quite hard with the new laws regarding the Byways etc...but there is still a strong group of riders determined to keep going.
Harv, I thought they closed it all down, where do you go in the oxford area?
And those Videos are fantastic..loadsa fun.
VanDaMauler
07-Nov-2006, 13:39
Just had a look...
I`m sure they U turned on this, in April they were saying no motorbikes or 4x4`s on the Ridgeway.
But it say`s here that parts are still open...
Looks like I`ll be buying another KTM :D
http://www.nationaltrail.co.uk/Ridgeway/downloads.asp?PageId=83
Harv748
07-Nov-2006, 13:40
Everywhere mate!
The clips above are all around the ridgeway/paths leading to/from it.
If you fancy a day out let me know.
I'm going to get the DR MOT'd in the next week or so, and then its all systems go!!!
The difficulty now is that they have reclassed some of the routes to restricted access, so its difficult to string good routes together.
Last year me and my mate went to Sailsbury and back ...almost ALL off road from Abingdon.
Get yourself an OS explorer map from WHSmith...the contryside is your Oyster....well some of it.
LEt me know if you fancy a couple of hours out...its a blast.
Harv748
07-Nov-2006, 13:41
Just had a look...
I`m sure they U turned on this, in April they were saying no motorbikes or 4x4`s on the Ridgeway.
But it say`s here that parts are still open...
Looks like I`ll be buying another KTM :D
http://www.nationaltrail.co.uk/Ridgeway/downloads.asp?PageId=83
To be honest the ridgeway itself is pants anayway...we never ride it...its just handy for all the great routes leading OFF it...
LOL...I'll win <<<<<<<
Sounds like a great idea though.
At least i got thru this one, some of the others didn't:lol:
This is one of my favourites, not me, nicked from another site
Two stroker off roaders are the spawn of Satan! They're bloody awesome, but tricky little gits to use and soooo fast. Last one I had a go on was Couch's KTM200. I managed to get into the bottom of a valley and stall it...could I get it to just pull me out slowly without wheel spinning and putting us both straight back down the hill again? Could I buggery! That said, on the big fire trails through the forest, flat stick and it makes perfect sense :) 4 strokes are definitely more user friendly.
Couple of piccies of my spawn of satan attached :)
I love the smell & the power delivery of 2-smokes, but as already mentioned, the 250 thumpers are by far easier to ride.
Go for it TP. So long as you don't buy a new bike, you'll be able to sell it on for a similar amount if you have a change of heart.
jeff st4s
07-Nov-2006, 15:19
Couple of piccies of my spawn of satan attached :)
I love the smell & the power delivery of 2-smokes, but as already mentioned, the 250 thumpers are by far easier to ride.
I had a go on a race prepared version of one of those it was insane, couldn't wait to get off it to get on a "tame" 250cc 2 stroke instead. :)
VanDaMauler
26-Nov-2006, 22:28
Everywhere mate!
The clips above are all around the ridgeway/paths leading to/from it.
If you fancy a day out let me know.
I'm going to get the DR MOT'd in the next week or so, and then its all systems go!!!
The difficulty now is that they have reclassed some of the routes to restricted access, so its difficult to string good routes together.
Last year me and my mate went to Sailsbury and back ...almost ALL off road from Abingdon.
Get yourself an OS explorer map from WHSmith...the contryside is your Oyster....well some of it.
LEt me know if you fancy a couple of hours out...its a blast.
Gotta shift my Vrod (on Ebay as we speak) and I`ll pick up a KTM 525 Supermoto/Enduro again , awsome little bike and I`ll take you up on your offer..
Nice one!!!
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