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so enough of the same people saying the same things on this subject.
lets sort it out with a poll
all the action shots are out so what do you think
don't want multiple options "I like it but my 749R looks much better"
or "na don't like it but wouldn't mind some termi's on there"
its a goodun or a wrongun
lets see
Excellent Idea Keefer.
Do you think we should add;
1. Yes, I like it and will buy one
2. No, not my cuppa and will keep my 748/916/996/998/749/999
rcgbob44
10-Nov-2006, 08:38
Excellent Idea Keefer.
Do you think we should add;
1. Yes, I like it and will buy one
2. No, not my cuppa and will keep my 748/916/996/998
3. But will sell my ugly 999/749 and buy a Dnieper sidecar outfit!
LOL
no as stated keeping away from the multiple choice
its just a straight slug fest
Win or Bin
Sharpy G
10-Nov-2006, 09:24
Yes...I like it, but I like all Ducatis ! they all have their own styles and merits after all
just I like some more than others.........each to their own etc etc
In my fantasy garage I would like a 998R, 749R & a 1098/1198R please !
Question is ? is it all it should have been ?
no doubt the proof will be in the pudding so to speak !
Steve M
10-Nov-2006, 09:48
Does it for me
and even better it might help make used 998's a bit more affordable as people swap for one! ;)
Rattler
10-Nov-2006, 09:50
I like the look of it - maybe not as radical as some expected and it does seem to be more of an evolution of the 916 shape than the 999's, but I can't wait to see it.
Will I buy one? It depends upon how it compares to the IL4s in terms of power and ability - I've got a taste for this stuff now.
Test rides???
Tim
I think Rapido were taking bookings for test rides
Get in there
Sharpy G
10-Nov-2006, 09:53
don't want multiple options "I like it but my 749R looks much better"
but it's true ! :lol: :lol:
antonye
10-Nov-2006, 09:53
Could be better but then it could have been a lot worse!
It looks very "Japanese" to me. Don't know why but all of Ducati's greatest bikes have a lot of art and sculpture in them, just "because".
The 998 to 999 transition went from a lovingly crafted piece of art into a functional motorcycle, and for the Ducati "tribe" (©Federico Minoli) I really don't think they liked it - too much of a revolution than an evolution of the design.
The 1098 now slots in as the real 998 replacement. They even allude to this by calling it the 1098 and not the 1099. Its more a thoroughbred child of the 998 than the b*****d son resulting from a fling with an R1.
Now it comes down to the price. That will be the real test.
Yes, I like it a lot but,
I have a 996 sps that still does it for me and for 12 to 14000 pounds? I think that my extention on my house will be coming first. LOL.
DC.
TopiToo
10-Nov-2006, 12:12
Hello
Voted "yes" but not sure about the swinging arm,
looking at the pics it looks like a 2 phase wiring from the alternator
cant see a regulator?
Dont like the lights either go round or cats not both.
Not sure about the pipes looks like they were in two minds
as to whether go round or letter box
Indicators in the mirrors . . not good
wonder if that engine will go in my 748:rolleyes: :lol:
TopiToo
I like it :) very nice.
I'd quite happily have one, if the price was right.
Gaz 748
10-Nov-2006, 18:48
I like it,:biaggi: and will be booking a test ride in the spring. :D
from what i've seen no but i'll reserve final judgment until i see in the flesh
There is allways more to a bike than looks when you are riding it you don't see it anyway its how it rides that make the differance. Most people that have ridden the 749 or the 999 swear that it is the best bike for them and thats the important bit. This new bike looks great and Ill look forwards to seeing it some time when you lucky people arrive for a ride out. I hope to God we dont all end up all winging about the differences and how it does'nt have this or that. Its a DUCATI thats good enough for me . 4D
Excellent Idea Keefer.
Do you think we should add;
1. Yes, I like it and will buy one
2. No, not my cuppa and will keep my 748/916/996/998
3. But will sell my ugly 999/749 and buy a Dnieper sidecar outfit!
Yep,and add.
4.Oooh,its a modern equivilent of the 998S,....did you know only 29 came into the country,....mind you I never ride it 'cause the last time a nasty kerb made me drop it and now its costing me a fortune in stickers,....blah,blah,blah,...
Grow up Bob,...ya just not funny any more.
rcgbob44
10-Nov-2006, 20:38
Seems I touched a nerve!
Seems I touched a nerve!
Nope,I'm drunk and that sorta bollox p*sses me off.:frog:
Sharpy G
10-Nov-2006, 21:04
Nope,I'm drunk and that sorta bollox p*sses me off.:frog:
and even drunk you have good taste in motorcycles ! :lol:
rcgbob44
10-Nov-2006, 21:16
I enjoy these forums keefy and enjoy a laugh, you enjoy your drink, I`ll finnish my wine and we`ll talk another day.
Sleep well.
I like it,:biaggi: and will be booking a test ride in the spring. :D
if you are selling your 748R then the queue can line up behind me:D :D :D
I enjoy these forums keefy and enjoy a laugh, you enjoy your drink, I`ll finnish my wine and we`ll talk another day.
Sleep well.
Yeah,think I'll have another glass of red before bed.
Been a long week and I'm completely knackered,....
night night,..........................
Good post / poll Keith.
I love most Ducatis, perhaps I'm very easy to please, even the old bevels and 888 etc. The only two Dukes I'm not fond of are the Paso and the new GT1000. Although I love the Sport Classic / Paul Smart Reps, the GT does nothing for me, it just doesn’t float my boat. The GT reminds me of a Triumph Bonneville, nothing wrong with Bonnevilles, I like them, however if I wanted a Bonnie I'd buy one and not a GT. Maybe Ducati are attempting to fill a British and American niche. Still I suppose Tim Maccabee loves GT's, apparently he attended the 'Dinner & Dance' on one!! Like everyone else, he is entitled to his preference and opinion. I will never knock, slate or gibe a motorcyclist or his or her pride & joy, whether riding a Paso, GT or anything else for that matter, the fact that they’re on two wheels is enough for me, if they ride a Duke that is a bonus and besides his or her pride & joy maybe all they can afford.
I fail to comprehend why there are so many disagreements or differences of opinion over the ‘Best’ Ducati superbike, 916/96/98 v 999 v 1098 debate, perhaps some may say I don‘t have the ‘Ducati Passion‘ however I know I do.
IMHO I love all of them for very different reasons. I recall when I lived in London, riding to Chelsea Bridge most Friday evenings and High Beech or Box Hill on Sundays on my Stan Stephens tuned RD350LC YPVS with a few mates / bikers (usually nutters on Elsie’s who had a penchant for wheeling the length of Chelsea Bridge Road, which in hindsight was probably considerably longer than their life expectancy at the time) admiring and wishing I could afford the sexy new 916.
IMHO the 916 and its successors ooze everything great about Ducati and Italian styling. I love the 999 for different reasons, its angular shape, the box style exhaust, clocks etc, however unlike Derek (749er) and maybe some others I’m not keen on the early heavy cast swingarm and I much prefer the later lightweight black alloy swingarm. My overall preference regarding swingarms is the single sided jobbies and now its alloy on the 1098 even better, a step forward in my book.
Ducati UK have my details for a black mono 1098S, I think it looks awesome, in fact I think all of Ducati superbikes (916/96/98 / 999 / 1098) are awesome.
Although I like some of the ‘Rice Rockets’ most of which are far cheaper and have more BHP than a Ducati, but for me its more than £ for lbs and if that requires an explanation then one wouldn’t understand anyway. IMHO Ducati manufacture the best ’Superbikes’ in the world and possess a racing pedigree second to none.
I’ve held my bike license for 21 years and owned and ridden many bikes. My Multistrada 1000DS although I think are somewhat ugly, rode very well. It is a great all rounder, two up or solo, touring or commuting and no doubt great for trips like Normandy or the ‘Ring’ judging by Paul (Psychlist) and Roy (Dementor) comments. Aesthetics aside, the Numptystrada is certainly one of the best bikes I’ve owned and ridden.
I agree with some here, the new 1098 does appear to be a bit of a mix of its predecessors, but I think it works very well and if the performance statistics are anything to go by, it will ride and handle better than its ancestors. If I were to be extremely critical, I agree with the observations that the dinner plate alloy heat shield is too much, but as someone said previously, I’m sure there’ll be a smaller and lighter carbon fibre replacement available shortly. Lastly, I think the side / prop stand on the 749 / 999 looks great, its a shame this feature was not passed onto the 1098. One last opinion, I think one fairing mouth (Air intake) in the centre like the ‘Sedici’ would look better than two on the 1098, however I still think it looks great.
Ducati like any good company will listen to their consumers (Ducatisti) and watch enthusiast clubs and web sites like ours and others for ideas and input to help produce a product what they think will be popular and we the consumer wants to purchase. I think Ducati has done very well with the 1098 and I’m sure it will sell well.
CONGRATULATIONS AND WELL DONE DUCATI. :)
...Ducati UK have my details for a black mono 1098S, I think it looks awesome, in fact I think all of Ducati superbikes (916/96/98 / 999 / 1098) are awesome....
You utter utter ... bas ... lucky bugger! :D
The black mono S is the one to have I reckon! I wonder what colour frame it has, black I hope.
Good choice, certainly droolworthy!
phoenix n max
11-Nov-2006, 23:39
Looking forward to seeing it in the flesh next week - Not sure if i'll like it without all the duct tape on though ;)
Totally agree with your with your musings and observations Italian Stallion. To me the 998 is the best, but I love all the rest including the 749/999 (they still have soul, missing from Jap bikes). The new 1098 is going to be a hit
Wonder how many "Don't like it's" are owners of 999's that are now worth even less than before?
I'm not that keen on it from the photos. It looks a bit bitsa to me - the rear seat seems pure MV and the front end ZX10R/ZX6R. I thought Ducati were leaders when it came to design and style..not followers. :s
It may look better in the flesh though - it needs to be significantly lighter and have better dynamics than a 996/998 series bike before I'll consider it otherwise, it's not going to be offering that much except in shove...which any 748 has more than enough of for road use.
I hope it ain't too user-friendly - I like bikes that demand input.
There is no doubt in my mind this is the bike the 999 should have been.
I don't care how well the 999 handles, how comfy it is etc etc, it's just plain old ugly to me and always will be.
The 1098, will never replace the 916 series, simply because you cannot replace a classic, however, it is a logical progression and evolution of the original series.
From the brakes to the swinger, the whole bike looks right. Yes, there are some iffy bits, but it won't be long beofre the AM folks have made tasty bits of carbon or titanium to repalce the iffy bits that Ducati have had to fit to get the bike through legislation.
No, it works for me, and I am very seriously considering selling both my 996S and the 996RS to get me one of these babies. Just a shame Ducati UK don't offer a track only option as Crescent do with the GSXR's. After all, I'm never gonna have the thing on the road.
Nope, say what you will, this bike works for me, and I have a sneaking suspicion it will work for a lot of people whether they be Ducatisti or otherwise.
baylissboy
12-Nov-2006, 14:15
I like it, vast improvement over the 999, might be tempted to take one for a test ride!
You utter utter ... bas ... lucky bugger! :D
The black mono S is the one to have I reckon! I wonder what colour frame it has, black I hope.
Good choice, certainly droolworthy!
Tony,
I agree, I too think it is the bike to buy. :cool: :D
You're welcome to have a ride mate, ffs just keep it upright. :biaggi: :burn:
You're welcome to have a ride mate, ffs just keep it upright. :biaggi: :burn:
No pun intended ;)
VanDaMauler
13-Nov-2006, 09:32
Good post / poll Keith.
I love most Ducatis, perhaps I'm very easy to please, even the old bevels and 888 etc. The only two Dukes I'm not fond of are the Paso and the new GT1000. Although I love the Sport Classic / Paul Smart Reps, the GT does nothing for me, it just doesn’t float my boat. The GT reminds me of a Triumph Bonneville, nothing wrong with Bonnevilles, I like them, however if I wanted a Bonnie I'd buy one and not a GT. Maybe Ducati are attempting to fill a British and American niche. Still I suppose Tim Maccabee loves GT's, apparently he attended the 'Dinner & Dance' on one!! Like everyone else, he is entitled to his preference and opinion. I will never knock, slate or gibe a motorcyclist or his or her pride & joy, whether riding a Paso, GT or anything else for that matter, the fact that they’re on two wheels is enough for me, if they ride a Duke that is a bonus and besides his or her pride & joy maybe all they can afford.
I fail to comprehend why there are so many disagreements or differences of opinion over the ‘Best’ Ducati superbike, 916/96/98 v 999 v 1098 debate, perhaps some may say I don‘t have the ‘Ducati Passion‘ however I know I do.
IMHO I love all of them for very different reasons. I recall when I lived in London, riding to Chelsea Bridge most Friday evenings and High Beech or Box Hill on Sundays on my Stan Stephens tuned RD350LC YPVS with a few mates / bikers (usually nutters on Elsie’s who had a penchant for wheeling the length of Chelsea Bridge Road, which in hindsight was probably considerably longer than their life expectancy at the time) admiring and wishing I could afford the sexy new 916.
IMHO the 916 and its successors ooze everything great about Ducati and Italian styling. I love the 999 for different reasons, its angular shape, the box style exhaust, clocks etc, however unlike Derek (749er) and maybe some others I’m not keen on the early heavy cast swingarm and I much prefer the later lightweight black alloy swingarm. My overall preference regarding swingarms is the single sided jobbies and now its alloy on the 1098 even better, a step forward in my book.
Ducati UK have my details for a black mono 1098S, I think it looks awesome, in fact I think all of Ducati superbikes (916/96/98 / 999 / 1098) are awesome.
Although I like some of the ‘Rice Rockets’ most of which are far cheaper and have more BHP than a Ducati, but for me its more than £ for lbs and if that requires an explanation then one wouldn’t understand anyway. IMHO Ducati manufacture the best ’Superbikes’ in the world and possess a racing pedigree second to none.
I’ve held my bike license for 21 years and owned and ridden many bikes. My Multistrada 1000DS although I think are somewhat ugly, rode very well. It is a great all rounder, two up or solo, touring or commuting and no doubt great for trips like Normandy or the ‘Ring’ judging by Paul (Psychlist) and Roy (Dementor) comments. Aesthetics aside, the Numptystrada is certainly one of the best bikes I’ve owned and ridden.
I agree with some here, the new 1098 does appear to be a bit of a mix of its predecessors, but I think it works very well and if the performance statistics are anything to go by, it will ride and handle better than its ancestors. If I were to be extremely critical, I agree with the observations that the dinner plate alloy heat shield is too much, but as someone said previously, I’m sure there’ll be a smaller and lighter carbon fibre replacement available shortly. Lastly, I think the side / prop stand on the 749 / 999 looks great, its a shame this feature was not passed onto the 1098. One last opinion, I think one fairing mouth (Air intake) in the centre like the ‘Sedici’ would look better than two on the 1098, however I still think it looks great.
Ducati like any good company will listen to their consumers (Ducatisti) and watch enthusiast clubs and web sites like ours and others for ideas and input to help produce a product what they think will be popular and we the consumer wants to purchase. I think Ducati has done very well with the 1098 and I’m sure it will sell well.
CONGRATULATIONS AND WELL DONE DUCATI. :)
Very nice, well written post, but I just cant take it seriously because of your chosen screen name...
By all accounts, you`re not Italian or a Stalion....:lol:
Sorry, but I cant help myself..
Anyway.
The 1098 looks fantastic and its a worthy successor to the Ducati Superbike Throne.
I cannot wait to see it in the flesh and have a test ride, see if it goes as good as it looks...
Metropolis in London are getting them in mid December, if you cant get to milan...
Very nice, well written post, but I just cant take it seriously because of your chosen screen name...
By all accounts, you`re not Italian or a Stalion....:lol:
Sorry, but I cant help myself..
Anyway.
The 1098 looks fantastic and its a worthy successor to the Ducati Superbike Throne.
I cannot wait to see it in the flesh and have a test ride, see if it goes as good as it looks...
Metropolis in London are getting them in mid December, if you cant get to milan...
Hi Van,
Don't be fooled by my screen name or any other for that matter.
Actually I've wanted to change my username for ages now, you're correct, I'm not Italian and certainly not equine, however my wife definitely know I'm a stallion ;) :lol:
I sound like a well endowed Italian boxer, well most of it is not true, I'm not Italian and I'm not a boxer :D
I shall change my username very soon.........
Yes mate I agree, the 1098 looks great, if the reports and statistics are correct it will ride and handle brilliant too, only time will tell.
Richard.
P.S. I lived in Kennington for several years and Metropolis was my local bike shop formerly named 'Scootabout', I remember when they first opened. Good bike shop though.
No pun intended ;)
Err ... :p
Good post / poll Keith.
I love most Ducatis, perhaps I'm very easy to please, even the old bevels and 888 etc. The only two Dukes I'm not fond of are the Paso and the new GT1000. Although I love the Sport Classic / Paul Smart Reps, the GT does nothing for me, it just doesn’t float my boat. The GT reminds me of a Triumph Bonneville, nothing wrong with Bonnevilles, I like them, however if I wanted a Bonnie I'd buy one and not a GT. Maybe Ducati are attempting to fill a British and American niche. Still I suppose Tim Maccabee loves GT's, apparently he attended the 'Dinner & Dance' on one!! Like everyone else, he is entitled to his preference and opinion. I will never knock, slate or gibe a motorcyclist or his or her pride & joy, whether riding a Paso, GT or anything else for that matter, the fact that they’re on two wheels is enough for me, if they ride a Duke that is a bonus and besides his or her pride & joy maybe all they can afford.
I fail to comprehend why there are so many disagreements or differences of opinion over the ‘Best’ Ducati superbike, 916/96/98 v 999 v 1098 debate, perhaps some may say I don‘t have the ‘Ducati Passion‘ however I know I do.
IMHO I love all of them for very different reasons. I recall when I lived in London, riding to Chelsea Bridge most Friday evenings and High Beech or Box Hill on Sundays on my Stan Stephens tuned RD350LC YPVS with a few mates / bikers (usually nutters on Elsie’s who had a penchant for wheeling the length of Chelsea Bridge Road, which in hindsight was probably considerably longer than their life expectancy at the time) admiring and wishing I could afford the sexy new 916.
IMHO the 916 and its successors ooze everything great about Ducati and Italian styling. I love the 999 for different reasons, its angular shape, the box style exhaust, clocks etc, however unlike Derek (749er) and maybe some others I’m not keen on the early heavy cast swingarm and I much prefer the later lightweight black alloy swingarm. My overall preference regarding swingarms is the single sided jobbies and now its alloy on the 1098 even better, a step forward in my book.
Ducati UK have my details for a black mono 1098S, I think it looks awesome, in fact I think all of Ducati superbikes (916/96/98 / 999 / 1098) are awesome.
Although I like some of the ‘Rice Rockets’ most of which are far cheaper and have more BHP than a Ducati, but for me its more than £ for lbs and if that requires an explanation then one wouldn’t understand anyway. IMHO Ducati manufacture the best ’Superbikes’ in the world and possess a racing pedigree second to none.
I’ve held my bike license for 21 years and owned and ridden many bikes. My Multistrada 1000DS although I think are somewhat ugly, rode very well. It is a great all rounder, two up or solo, touring or commuting and no doubt great for trips like Normandy or the ‘Ring’ judging by Paul (Psychlist) and Roy (Dementor) comments. Aesthetics aside, the Numptystrada is certainly one of the best bikes I’ve owned and ridden.
I agree with some here, the new 1098 does appear to be a bit of a mix of its predecessors, but I think it works very well and if the performance statistics are anything to go by, it will ride and handle better than its ancestors. If I were to be extremely critical, I agree with the observations that the dinner plate alloy heat shield is too much, but as someone said previously, I’m sure there’ll be a smaller and lighter carbon fibre replacement available shortly. Lastly, I think the side / prop stand on the 749 / 999 looks great, its a shame this feature was not passed onto the 1098. One last opinion, I think one fairing mouth (Air intake) in the centre like the ‘Sedici’ would look better than two on the 1098, however I still think it looks great.
Ducati like any good company will listen to their consumers (Ducatisti) and watch enthusiast clubs and web sites like ours and others for ideas and input to help produce a product what they think will be popular and we the consumer wants to purchase. I think Ducati has done very well with the 1098 and I’m sure it will sell well.
CONGRATULATIONS AND WELL DONE DUCATI. :)
Not a lot to add really. Nice write and and well put imho.
Top man
VanDaMauler
13-Nov-2006, 14:28
Hi Van,
I shall change my username very soon.........
Nice to see there are still a few people on here with a sense of humour and who can take a joke.
Its all got far too serious,cliquey and political around here...
So then Stalion, whats the name gonna get changed to?
The Muscles from Brussles? :lol:
Well put Richard....though my liking for castings comes from work more than anything, it makes me me a bit biased........
Steve M
13-Nov-2006, 17:03
I like it, vast improvement over the 999, might be tempted to take one for a test ride!
but which one are you going to sell ? ;)
Gaz 748
13-Nov-2006, 17:07
if you are selling your 748R then the queue can line up behind me:D :D :D
It will have to be a very special bike for me to sell the 748R. :biaggi:
I will have a test ride anyway. :devil:
baylissboy
13-Nov-2006, 18:59
but which one are you going to sell ? ;)Are you mad????? I meant as well!!!
Nice to see there are still a few people on here with a sense of humour and who can take a joke.
Its all got far too serious,cliquey and political around here...
Unfortunately yes, I know what you mean. :rolleyes:
So then Stalion, whats the name gonna get changed to?
The Muscles from Brussles? :lol:
'The Muscles from Brussles' :ninja:
No, I'm nothing like Jean Claude Van Dam. I don't speak French or Flemish and anyway he's 5ft 2in with 4in platform shoes on while stood in a grow bag. Ask my wife, I've easily got 12 inches on Jean Claude. ;)
My new user name 'RD' as above.
Well put Richard....though my liking for castings comes from work more than anything, it makes me me a bit biased........
Hi Derek,
I understand.
IMHO I think the swingarm is lovely in its raw state, it looks like its man enough for the job, although I would like to see what it looks like in black. I also think its a step forward in the right direction. For me it has the best of both worlds, I personally prefer the single sided swingers which in the past have been heavy cast, but now the 1098 swinger is made of alloy like the late 749 / 999. Excellent.
mbracing748
14-Nov-2006, 09:12
Not may bikes have done it for me in the last 4 years but this one has. Will I buy one YES!
Steve M
14-Nov-2006, 11:03
Are you mad????? I meant as well!!!
I'd like to be a fly on the wall when you suggest that then :lol:
breakout
18-Nov-2006, 18:14
Nope,I'm drunk and that sorta bollox p*sses me off.:frog:
Whats wrong with you matey, had a bad day, really dont like your stone ugly 999? When they came out the only way to sell them was to get the 998's out of the shops;- and even then Ducati went into a world wide sales slump. Six years ago, all we had was a lot of complaint about the over complicated 'stationary' design aesetic of the 999 (too many lines parrallel to ground, tank top, seat, belly pan etc)
Ducati is nearly broke again, thanks to the ugly design of an inherently successful motorcycle (999) that dont sell in the required quantities; along comes the design evolution of a motorcycle that was regarded as a design icon 998/916 (was in the Guttenheim along with an MV) and you struggle to see the bike as a vast improvement on the 999.
Be warned sell your 999 now, and put a deposit on a 1098, because when they lob you wont get enough money for your 999 to be able to afford the deposit, and you will be stuck with the 999 unless you sell it to me so that I could use the engine parts as spares for my 998R.
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