Its Growing on Me

[wato39]

Carbon Hmmm, bet it sounds nice too

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/watso02gsxr/1098_6.jpg


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/watso02gsxr/1098_2.jpg

[Sharpy G]

is it just me.....or does that lower pic kinda look like an old guy with a handlebar tash ? :lol:

[Glyn]

nope
the front end is spot on, the back just aint right
will reserve final judgement till we get one turn up for a ride out:D ;)

[Gaz 748]

Those pipes are at different angles. :o

[Sharpy G]

more pics

[Sharpy G]

more

[jeff st4s]

Those pipes are at different angles. :o

It's called Italian attention to detail.
I mean if they can't get the show/press bike perfect, what chance of a customers bike being spot on? :eek: :eek:

[Sharpy G]

It's called Italian attention to detail.
I mean if they can't get the show/press bike perfect, what chance of a customers bike being spot on? :eek: :eek:

it's character !!

I mean have you ever seen the welding on the front edge of a 749R tank ! that's definately the Italian personal touch :lol:

[ziggi]

Sharpy - you're coming around aren't you. You're going through the curve of denial to acceptance.

Those latest photos are fantastic. And that's just the base model.

[Sharpy G]

Sharpy - you're coming around aren't you. You're going through the curve of denial to acceptance.

Those latest photos are fantastic. And that's just the base model.

I don't mind it.....I like all Duke's

still feel its a bit of a compramise tho'

just been out to look at my R in the garage, still doing it for me !

maybe I'll have one of each

[ziggi]

I think the 749R was the best looking 749/999 and the only one I would want to own 04 model carbon.

With the 1098, i'm already interested with the base model. You wait til we see a full WSBK model on the grid.

[wato39]

It is growing on me but i do think this new model should have been the design that replaced the 748/998 three or so years ago (sorry 999 owners) and then the designers could have really gone to town with the evolution of the 748/998 replacement now .

[ziggi]

I know bikes are different things to different people but i truely beleive that the MV F4 was the real design upgrade to the 916 by Tamburini

[Sharpy G]

I think the 749R was the best looking 749/999 and the only one I would want to own 04 model carbon.

my feelings exactly ! that's why I have one :lol:

[Sharpy G]

They just it the wrong way round, Ducati have contacted all 749/999 owners asking them to hide their bikes for a bit, just so they can get this 1098 thing launched as the evolution of the 'iconic' bike, then they can get back on track and launch the 749/999 ;)

he he he !
:lol::lol::lol:

[Sharpy G]

Did you ever get that bloody mirror ?

picking it up t'morrow , work been manic, thanks m8


Sharpy G

749/999 splinter group member

[ziggi]

They just it the wrong way round, Ducati have contacted all 749/999 owners asking them to hide their bikes for a bit, just so they can get this 1098 thing launched as the evolution of the 'iconic' bike, then they can get back on track and launch the 749/999 ;)

To be fair, if you squint this is the best shot I have seen so far of the 1098, it looks the most like a Ducati to me !
http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1840&d=1163533891

Heh heh, dream on Dsee - but you're right about that photo :)

[749er]

To be fair, if you squint this is the best shot I have seen so far of the 1098, it looks the most like a Ducati to me !
http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1840&d=1163533891

its got that head down, arse up, big fairing profile look

[Sharpy G]

its got that head down, arse up, big fairing profile look

like an R1 you mean ! :lol:

[ziggi]

definately Pirelli from the larger pictures i have

[VanDaMauler]

my feelings exactly ! that's why I have one :lol:

Yeah, but you got the little girly 749....whats up, 999R to scary for ya? :lol:

[VanDaMauler]

http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1839&d=1163533873


Just gotta say how F`kin awsome the new bike looks....

Ducati have got it so spot on...

[the phantom pieman]

When the 916 came out , did it take time for it to grow on you, or did you just say "F*** me, I really want one of those" ?

[Sharpy G]

Yeah, but you got the little girly 749....whats up, 999R to scary for ya? :lol:

yep !











if you say so

[VanDaMauler]

yep !











if you say so



Seriously...

You know your bike.......Thats a girls bike, that is!



I bet when everyone asks why you didnt get a 999R, you spout out the same well rehersed excuses as the Boxter owner , when asked why he didnt get a 911...:lol:


(and before anyone jumps to his defence, he`s having a go at a bike thats not even in the shops yet and as a 999 owner, hes feeling gutted because he backed a lame horse)

[Sharpy G]

Seriously...

You know your bike.......Thats a girls bike, that is!

If you say so mate........obviously I like girls bikes then

I bet when everyone asks why you didnt get a 999R, you spout out the same well rehersed excuses as the Boxter owner , when asked why he didnt get a 911...:lol:

erm.......actually preferred the 749R to the 999R, bit more road friendly and exclusive
strangely enuff, I prefer the 911 to the Boxter
(can't fit a towbar to a Boxter) :lol:



(and before anyone jumps to his defence, he`s having a go at a bike thats not even in the shops yet and as a 999 owner, hes feeling gutted because he backed a lame horse)

confused ??!!! I like the 1098..............and you already established I don't own a 999 'cos I'm not man enuff didn't you ? :lol::lol:





perhaps I should sell my girls bike and get myself a real mans bike..............like a Harley :lol:

[VanDaMauler]

perhaps I should sell my girls bike and get myself a real mans bike..............like a Harley :lol:


Yeah??? do you think you could handle it??? maybe start off on a little sportster or something...

But!!!!

If you think you are man enough and fancy Biting , instead of all that yapping!!!

The V Rod is up for sale.

:D

[Sharpy G]

Yeah??? do you think you could handle it??? maybe start off on a little sportster or something...

But!!!!

If you think you are man enough and fancy Biting , instead of all that yapping!!!

The V Rod is up for sale.

:D

Dude ! honestly..............I was kidding ! Harleys, even the V-Rod, just aint my bag

now the Hodgy Rep...that's another thing !

I don't feel the need to have prove to anyone I'm a man
after all, my beautiful wife believes me !

[ratboy]

Gone off the main subject a tad...!

This bike is definately doing it fo rme (and was{originally} my 749r) and I still love that too!

[Sharpy G]

Gone off the main subject a tad...!

This bike is definately doing it fo rme (and was{originally} my 749r) and I still love that too!

thanks...& ditto

[Ian_km]

Well, it's growing on me I have to say. But I'm sticking with my 996SPS and let you lot test and develop it for a while, could be tempted by an R somewhere down the road!

[TP]

When I first saw the 916 I thought it was absolutely gorgeous and said I'd own one, one day.

The 1098 is gorgeous, and I'd quite like to have one. But it hasn't quite captured my imagination the same way the 916 did. That's not down to the 1098, I love it and would love to have one, it's down to the fact that the 916 was way ahead of it's time and all the reasons that make it the icon it is.

:)

[749er]

Dude ! honestly..............I was kidding ! Harleys, even the V-Rod, just aint my bag

now the Hodgy Rep...that's another thing !

I don't feel the need to have prove to anyone I'm a man
after all, my beautiful wife believes me !

just ignore him mate.

two episodes of changing rooms and he is a qualified designer

[Sharpy G]

just ignore him mate.

two episodes of changing rooms and he is a qualified designer

Que ?

[749er]

Que ?

http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/showthread.php?t=38845

the rest of us spend years learning our trade and developing our styles

[Sharpy G]

http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/showthread.php?t=38845

the rest of us spend years learning our trade and developing our styles

I get ya ! :lol:

[gimpboy450]

Hi all, my opinion is that its okay, just okay i currently own a Ducati but if i were to spend circa 14K then it would have to be the MV F1000R as its less popular/better looking/better marque/higher spec/lower servicing costs. Not only that its the ferraris of bikes so hands done MV winner, maybe ducati should realise this and up the spec and lower prices.

[VanDaMauler]

Hi all, my opinion is that its okay, just okay i currently own a Ducati but if i were to spend circa 14K then it would have to be the MV F1000R as its less popular/better looking/better marque/higher spec/lower servicing costs. Not only that its the ferraris of bikes so hands done MV winner, maybe ducati should realise this and up the spec and lower prices.

I dont think its better looking, I think the MV looks like its got a little middle age spread, it looks a little over weight...and its less popular for a reason, ie: you cant get anyone to service the thing and if you can, you wait months for parts...Bit like Bellini, soon you`ll be spouting off about Bimota`s being "exotic"...:lol: Move on....Dont fear the future

http://sportrider.com/bikes/2005/146_05_zoom+2005_mv_agusta_f4_1000_tamburini+front _right.jpg

http://www.motonline.com/img_repository/d1098art1.jpg

Hhhhhmmmm I know what one I`ll have...

[Dave G]

I think the 1098 is a real missed opportunity.Its nice enough I suppose, but you know companies are struggling when they try and backtrack their designs because of public criticism rather than create new designs.
It was a brave move by Ducati to replace the 916 with something that was radically different,and it seems the main reason it was not well received was that it wasn't the 916.Ducati were in a no win situation and would have been lambasted for resting on their laurels by keeping the 916 shape and were lambasted for replacing it.
The 999 isn't perfect but its unique and has got some great ideas about it,it would have been a better, braver thing to do to develop this idea rather than an italian fireblade/R1 clone.
I hope the 1098 is a success for Ducati,but what'll happen if it isnt?,will they release a 'classic' 916 range. Its an admission of defeat designwise,where does it go from here?:confused:

[VanDaMauler]

Its an admission of defeat designwise,where does it go from here?:confused:


I think Ducati will sell a few 1098`s and clean up in WSB/BSB and maybe AMA!!! when they start racing it, then all the Jap factories will start shouting about the extra 100-200cc`s.

[wato39]

Hi, here's my take on the new model , i think that this is a lovely bike, but i think its the bike that should have replaced the 748/998 three or so years ago (sorry 749/999 owners) and when it was time for a new model after that the designers could have really gone to town and given us something really specatular this time .

[Dave G]

I think Ducati will sell a few 1098`s and clean up in WSB/BSB and maybe AMA!!! when they start racing it, then all the Jap factories will start shouting about the extra 100-200cc`s.

Its about aesthetics,performance is a seperate issue and Ducati have never had a problem with that.

[ratboy]

I agree, but Ducati need to sell road bikes in order (I presume) to help fund the track - surely bike evolution can only go at a certain, albeit slightly unknown commercial, pace? So, in creating an iconic superbike (take your pick) and then a less popular version (take your pick!) (supposedly) they have to try and harmonise what they would like to do, versus what the rest are doing, versus what they can do so that we continue to buy into wanting one.

For a less 'mass' manufacturer like Ducati, this must be a difficult balance.

Phew, can't even think if that reads right, off to lie down :0

[Sharpy G]

who said it was like an R1 ?

speed blocks ? on a Ducati ??

that aside....I like it I do...........needs more carbon tho'

Sharpy (carbon *****)

[flyingbanana]

I think in all honesty the look of the bike will become less important when people start to test ride it. Yes it is an 'evolution of the 916' which is no bad thing, yes it looks nothing like a 749r which for me is how the 999 should have looked in the first place, but if we want to keep buying ducati's then the company needs to be selling bikes and they reckon this look will so let's hope it does. When the sbk bike arrives it will have moved on again design wise after a year of sales just like the 999 did and the 916 before it and we will all be wanting one. I just have a feeling the engine is going to wipe the floor with competition 'twins' let alone the inline fours. Having owned a ZX10 and a 853sps I know which was easier to ride and potentially faster so add another 40bhp to the duke '160hp' probably a rear wheel 150, up the torque in the mid to high rpm which is where the 'old' twins lost out to the R1's and gixers and we all better hope we are good enough riders to use the thing, It's going to be awesome.....Imagine a 996sps with less weight and nearly 20 more horses wow.....
I won't be buying one though. As alot of us have pointed out, ducati have shot themselves in the foot so many times with their 'exclusive' pricing I would have thought they would have learned by now. Why they can't keep the price to say £10'700 and just charge more for the accessories that everyone will be buying because they want their bike to look and sound like troy's seems like a missed oppertunity to me. And I say all this impartially as I now own a BMW K1200R. Which is really my point, ride it first stare at it later, it will grow on you, and be happy it doesn't look like a teapot and go like a mobility buggy : )

[Sharpy G]

yes it looks nothing like a 749r which for me is how the 999 should have looked in the first place

well said that man :lol:

[996]

To anyone not convinced this bike is a looker,check out;

Ducati.ms website....do a search on 1098.....click on "pics from milano"

If these images don't change opinions......then test riding the " puney underpowered,over weight old hag" wont either!

[Ozz]

My god what a large site that is! I see our 900Man is a poster on there aswell...

[BDG]

I definately prefer the looks of the1098 over the 999, and can't wait to see it in the flesh, and ride one.

Would i swap it for the 996R?...mmmmmmmmmmmmm.........temptation:devil:

I think Ducati have done well with this.

[doogalman]

Site don't work. Not recognised. Ducati.ms ?????

[wato39]

Try this
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/showthread.php?t=13601

[doogalman]

Cheers for that.

[Rattler]

The best looking bike at Milano?
http://www.pierrecol.com/Milan2006/Milan%20086.jpg

[Sharpy G]

nice......do like a Guzzi

[Rattler]

Or this????
http://www.pierrecol.com/Milan2006/Milan%20091.jpg

[KeefyB]

Now see,...!
The Guzzi MG01 and the NCR have style,...so does the Bimota.I cant say the same for the 1098.

[KeefyB]

Rollerblade wheels on the paddock stand is the ultimate attention to detail !
Must be the latest must have.
We saw quite a few stands like that in Milan.

[RD]

Some lovely looking bikes there. :D

[breakout]

he he he !
:lol::lol::lol:

You are the one's got it wrong;--
Originally Posted by breakout
The 999 is dead long live the king, I agree this bike (1098) is as beautiful as the 999 is ugly.
The new bike has element in its design aesthetics of F4 MV (front fairing line viewed from the side and the swingarm) and the 916/998 series. the 999 has too many flat lines and side profile photos show the tank top seat and belly pan lines to be parrallel to each other and the ground, the 999 looks to be NOT dynamic (stationary;- not moving, dead) in photos.
The new 1098 will be loved by those that know (Ducati Enthusiasts) as the design is a natural design evolution of the 998R;- the 998R looks to be in motion even in still photos because of the lines running from low at the front to high at the back (just like jap bikes as copied from the 1993 916. Terre Blanche stopped me buying a 999r they are too ugly, sure if you try to like them, their appearence grows on you (slightly) but a 916 was born to complementary critical aclaim, it was "right" first time seen and will be 'right' in 50yrs time just like old classic cars look beautiful even now! BUT A 999 IS NOW GOING TO LOOK UGLY (even a R1 makes their design aesthetic look messy (silly side straiks,excessively busy nose cone, rudiculous, enormous aerodynamic side stand) I believe Teerre Blanche worked for Japan inc and was paid to bust Ducati; he needs to get a job at yamaha and mess their bikes up. I will say what I have seen is better looking than a 916, I wont even tell you how it stacks up against the 999, but will say the Factory has listened to the ducatasti, and now the king lives and ducati will not die (go broke) bloody brillant, and I will buy up the soon to be cheap 999s and throw the bodywork and keep the engines as spare for my 998R/996Rs. Ducati had to get rid of the last 998s to even start selling the 999 and then went into a worldwide sales slump; Duacti will dump the last 999 because they know when the 1098 hit the shops the 999 are going to be hard to give away, I am sorry for the 999 owners but this will be good for ducati and me; I will buy the R version when they are available, these bikes have a better aesthetic than even a desmodici they look more agressive the desmodici is too rounded doesnt look agressive looks slightly feminine like a triumph 955, I will buy this bike in preference to a desmodici. Breakout

[breakout]

I think you are right, what suprises me is the short memories people have regarding the introduction of the 999;- this bike should have come after the 998, and it would have been accepted, but now many people (I suspect owners) are defending the soon to be pig ugly 999 to the detriment of the 1098:-

Originally Posted by breakout
The 999 is dead long live the king, I agree this bike (1098) is as beautiful as the 999 is ugly.
The new bike has element in its design aesthetics of F4 MV (front fairing line viewed from the side and the swingarm) and the 916/998 series. the 999 has too many flat lines and side profile photos show the tank top seat and belly pan lines to be parrallel to each other and the ground, the 999 looks to be NOT dynamic (stationary;- not moving, dead) in photos.
The new 1098 will be loved by those that know (Ducati Enthusiasts) as the design is a natural design evolution of the 998R;- the 998R looks to be in motion even in still photos because of the lines running from low at the front to high at the back (just like jap bikes as copied from the 1993 916. Terre Blanche stopped me buying a 999r they are too ugly, sure if you try to like them, their appearence grows on you (slightly) but a 916 was born to complementary critical aclaim, it was "right" first time seen and will be 'right' in 50yrs time just like old classic cars look beautiful even now! BUT A 999 IS NOW GOING TO LOOK UGLY (even a R1 makes their design aesthetic look messy (silly side straiks,excessively busy nose cone, rediculous enormous aerodynamic side stand) I believe Teerre Blanche worked for Japan inc and was paid to bust Ducati; he needs to get a job at yamaha and mess their bikes up. I will say what I have seen is better looking than a 916, I wont even tell you how it stacks up against the 999, but will say the Factory has listened to the ducatasti, and now the king lives and ducati will not die (go broke) bloody brillant, and I will buy up the soon to be cheap 999s and throw the bodywork and keep the engines as spare for my 998R/996Rs. Ducati had to get rid of the last 998s to even start selling the 999 and then went into a worldwide sales slump; Duacti will dump the last 999 because they know when the 1098 hit the shops the 999 are going to be hard to give away, I am sorry for the 999 owners but this will be good for ducati and me; I will buy the R version when they are available, these bikes have a better aesthetic than even a desmodici they look more agressive the desmodici is too rounded doesnt look agressive looks slightly feminine like a triumph 955, I will buy this bike in preference to a desmodici. Breakout

[breakout]

Originally Posted by breakout
The 999 is dead long live the king, I agree this bike (1098) is as beautiful as the 999 is ugly.
The new bike has element in its design aesthetics of F4 MV (front fairing line viewed from the side and the swingarm) and the 916/998 series. the 999 has too many flat lines and side profile photos show the tank top seat and belly pan lines to be parrallel to each other and the ground, the 999 looks to be NOT dynamic (stationary;- not moving, dead) in photos.
The new 1098 will be loved by those that know (Ducati Enthusiasts) as the design is a natural design evolution of the 998R;- the 998R looks to be in motion even in still photos because of the lines running from low at the front to high at the back (just like jap bikes as copied from the 1993 916. Terre Blanche stopped me buying a 999r they are too ugly, sure if you try to like them, their appearence grows on you (slightly) but a 916 was born to complementary critical aclaim, it was "right" first time seen and will be 'right' in 50yrs time just like old classic cars look beautiful even now! BUT A 999 IS NOW GOING TO LOOK UGLY (even a R1 makes their design aesthetic look messy (silly side straiks,excessively busy nose cone, rediculous enormous aerodynamic side stand) I believe Teerre Blanche worked for Japan inc and was paid to bust Ducati; he needs to get a job at yamaha and mess their bikes up. I will say what I have seen is better looking than a 916, I wont even tell you how it stacks up against the 999, but will say the Factory has listened to the ducatasti, and now the king lives and ducati will not die (go broke) bloody brillant, and I will buy up the soon to be cheap 999s and throw the bodywork and keep the engines as spare for my 998R/996Rs. Ducati had to get rid of the last 998s to even start selling the 999 and then went into a worldwide sales slump; Duacti will dump the last 999 because they know when the 1098 hit the shops the 999 are going to be hard to give away, I am sorry for the 999 owners but this will be good for ducati and me; I will buy the R version when they are available, these bikes have a better aesthetic than even a desmodici they look more agressive the desmodici is too rounded doesnt look agressive looks slightly feminine like a triumph 955, I will buy this bike in preference to a desmodici. Breakout