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chicken
11-Apr-2004, 10:21
Does anyone have, or know of, a good standard carb 900ss engine for sale? Alternatively, a 900ssie with injectors?
Reason is that mine blew up on the way to Nelly's......
On the bright side, I quit my job on Wednesday!
cheers,
Chi
skidlids
11-Apr-2004, 13:11
Give Jim at Bike-Enders a call on Tuesday, his number is 01708 455530
Iconic944ss
11-Apr-2004, 13:50
Oh NOooooo Chi...hope u r OK marra ???
There are some engines going on the infernal ebay...
But here is my thread link from the breakers list I did last year..
http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/control/boards/viewthread.php?tid=5327
Good Luck
Iconic944ss
11-Apr-2004, 13:58
Heres the one I was thinking of...but its a bit old !!!
Even older then mine !!!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2472418289&category=10448
ps - I have a spare pair of 900 carbs if needed.
[Edited on 11-4-2004 by Iconic944ss]
FiscusFish
11-Apr-2004, 16:13
Do you know why it happened yet?
chicken
11-Apr-2004, 20:06
thanks Frank. Nelly has looked into that particular engine but ruled it out on the age and mileage.
I was enquiring, just in case anyone had one sitting in their shed. If anyone knows of one, can you pass the details onto Nelly.
The existing one is toast - went pop on the M1. No oil circulation turned the piston a different colour. Too much damage to repair. May be able to salvage some bits off it, but not holding my breath....
a sad Chi
Iconic944ss
12-Apr-2004, 09:38
Sorry Bud I've looked all over and draw a blank in the classified....looks like a breaker I'm afraid...
Dr.Desmo has some unspecified stuff on his website....might be worth a call.
http://www.dr-desmo-ducati.co.uk
Good luck
Iconic944ss
12-Apr-2004, 13:37
Just one thought.....the std barrels and pistons came along with my 944 when I bought I.
I was going to keep them incase something just like this happened.....
But a friend in need etc etc :D
If you need 'em - drop me a line !
Iconic944ss
12-Apr-2004, 14:40
As per Skidlids pointer.....bike-enders have a low mileage (9000) 750 SSIE being broken......
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2471866064&category=10448
paulmort
14-Apr-2004, 21:11
Red lights means danger m8.
espeshully when doin 80 or so
I seen the results, not a pretty sight, I can tell you
But hopefully wiff all the m8's here it'll soon be up and runnin wiff a likkle of Nelly's magic, unfortunately he cant unweld a seized crank and pistons
feelin fer you
rgds
mort :(:(
chicken
14-Apr-2004, 23:04
haha - thanks mort.
Maybe we should take some pictures and post them on the board as a warning! Hope you liked the rest of the bike anyway!
Frank - appreciate the offer. May take you up on the barrels and pistons, depending on what Nelly turns up. We did look at the possibility of putting an ie engine but, but might be a mod too far!
I'll be back with running updates.
best, Chi
FiscusFish
15-Apr-2004, 14:46
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7900159429&category=10448
Currently standing at £199 with a day to go.
chicken
15-Apr-2004, 18:11
thanks Darren - looking into it.
One guess who I got a u2u from about this already (a clue - he works shifts!)
Iconic944ss
15-Apr-2004, 19:22
Hi Chi,
Just had a quick look through MCN....Blacks in Ormskirk are selling 3 inj motors - 750/900 & a 900 Monster.....
Read what you wrote earlier and wonder if an inj engine could be fitted with Carbs????
What was Nellies opinion?
F
I've had a brief look at dropping an injected motor in, as Chi mentioned, in both car'd and injected guises.
The full on injected root raises alsorts of problems, not completely unsurmountable, but complicated. The "old style" tank has no provision for an injection pump, so this would need to be found a home. The ECU, ignition, FI system and loom need to be fitted and the airbox needs to take the throttles and bellmouths. The list goes on.
All are probably acheivable but time and £'s would soon mount up I guess.
Other than being told fitting carbs to the injection motor "is more trouble than it'd be worth", the main stumbling block I can see is the ignition.
The carb'd engine uses two pick ups and triggers off the flywheel. The injected motor uses the inductive pick up, ala all the FI motors and the ECU fires the coils.
This could be got around by using the flywheel off the early engine, but I don't believe it's that simple??? I'm sure the crank is different.
The motor Chi is chasing is a good buy for the money and I reckon the money saved will be more than enough for a few tweaks he has in mind to make it a nice little motor
;)
Chi, do you really want some pictures posting up?????? :o
chicken
15-Apr-2004, 20:27
the ie route sounded like a really cool idea for about 2 days before Nelly came back to me with the bad news. Anyone who does this will be guaranteed to have the only one in the world!
Nelly - I'm quite happy to have pics posted but perhaps we should check with board members if they want to see such wince-inducing pics first!
chicken
16-Apr-2004, 18:09
yay! I got me an engine :D
Big thanks for all the leads guys.
Just have to work out with Nelly what to do with it now :sing::sing::sing:
Rushjob
16-Apr-2004, 18:14
He does a nice line in big lumpy pistons!
Ask Mort.......:roll:
paulmort
16-Apr-2004, 21:39
as the engines out at the mo, why noy ave some supadupa hi comp pistons fitted
Nelly can get and fit at a reasonable price, but as yer on the dole now, maybe have to raid the piggy bank first:lol::lol:
go on, you know you want it
bestest
mort:roll::roll:
chicken
17-Apr-2004, 09:52
mmmmmm.....hi-comp pistons......
Like you said - since the engine is out at the moment, it makes sense to do some work on it now and avoid dropping it out again later.
I've already got a new job lined up and I've squirrelled away enough for a decent budget.
Even so, I'm probably not going to be able to afford to do everything that I would like this go around. Any views on what mods will give me most bang for bucks?
A very happy chicken
FiscusFish
17-Apr-2004, 11:42
Lightweight flywheel has got to be top of the list. Doesn't give more power but lets the engine spin up faster and makes it feel like its got ten extra horses in there just bursting to get out.... Should be around £100 or so plus the 50p Nelly's bound to charge for fitting it.
Personally I think I'd go for a big bore over the plain hi-comp pistons. It'll cost more for the rebore and replating but the 944 pistons are higher compression as standard as well as being larger. As our colonial cousins are fond of pointing out, "There ain't no substitute for cubic inches".
Then you could get some porting work done and a set of Keihins would be nice too. How 'bout biigger valves as well. Lightweight clutch, although it won't be as noticeable as the flywheel 'cos it doesn't rotate as fast.
Skies the limit with the 2-valve and since you're flush could I borrow a few quid please....? :saint:
Iconic944ss
17-Apr-2004, 12:47
Glad to here you are getting sorted Marra.
Hmmmm.....Baines Racing didnt think much of my 944cc kit when I was asking about Malossi inlet. They said to junk it and concentrate on head /inlet / Carb work, so go figure ???
Piccies of damage please ??????
Frank
Iconic944ss
17-Apr-2004, 13:01
Hi comp set time...
They will post to the UK
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=35618&item=7900223438
FiscusFish
17-Apr-2004, 15:51
Originally posted by Iconic944ss
Baines Racing didnt think much of my 944cc kit when I was asking about Malossi inlet. Frank
Did they say why Frank?
Iconic944ss
17-Apr-2004, 17:10
I got the impression that from a tuning standpoint it was much better to start with a standard bore engine.
But they didnt say anything specifically.
Trade secret I guess.
Here you go Chi.
This is the horizontal piston, rod and what's left of the big end cap.
chicken
17-Apr-2004, 19:36
:o:(:o:(:o:(:o:(.......:lol:
I was hoping to use what was left of the pistons as ashtrays but looks like that's not going to happen now!
Darren, happy to lend you any amount you want (did I say that my new job is loan-sharking?!)
Nelly, have sent u2u.
[Edited on 17-4-2004 by chicken]
and here's a shot down the engine casing. It's a bit blurred, but you can just make out the blueing of the crank pin and the webs. There's some serious heat been built up there :o
FiscusFish
17-Apr-2004, 20:51
Nothing that a bit of Chemical Metal couldn't deal with surely...?:devil:
paulmort
19-Apr-2004, 21:39
thats some serious lack of oil m8 that caused that then!!!!
get the hi comp pistons, a 48 tooth clutch plate cover, a 944 big bore kit and a lightweight flywheeel
hope granny left you loads in her will??
try the hi comp pistons first, you wont be dissappointed
rgds
hi comp mort
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