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bradders
23-May-2004, 14:52
Right - I had a spill today because I cant reach the floor. Looked at the pre-load when I got home, as I have very little sag, and the spring is about 140mm when uncompressed, ie on paddock stand. Question, what should it be?
Haynes manual says 2000 on should be 151mm, mine is a 98. Also, for those who dont know me, there is considerable weight on the bike so a bit more than average may be needed. Got a mate to sit on it and he struggled to touch the ground with both feet - didnt with the 748 so clearly a big difference.
Help appreciated...
Bradders
bradders
23-May-2004, 15:18
Originally posted by weeksy
awwwww crap mate :(
no one to blame but me...stupid error:mad:
Any idea wher I can get a clutch lever without extortionate prices? Checked M&P, not listed. But I think the bigger problem will be the headlight mounting which broke...
Rushjob
23-May-2004, 15:58
I think Nelly may have a couple of headlamp surrounds knocking about.
He did have a few weeks ago anyway.
I'm passing by Moto Rapido weds / thurs this week, if they've got these parts (probably in a cardboard box somewhere...) let me know and I'll pick them up for you and save you the journey.
Steve & the boys seem to hoard boxes of these bits so may have the stuff kicking around.
[Edited on 23-5-2004 by Mr_S]
Paul, I got an Ohlins user manual if you want a look.
Also, don't forget that when the bike's on the paddock stand the spring is still under load! Wanna borrow my abba stand?
Give me a bell dude, but it'll have to be today cos I'm away on my travels again in the morning.
Just found manual on-line.... Ohlins manual (http://www.ohlins.com/pdf/07241-02.pdf) makes interesting reading. My god, I've got brain ache!!
[Edited on 23-5-2004 by NBs996]
neil748r
23-May-2004, 19:32
PB,
Sorry to hear about your spill - hope there's not too much damage to either you or the bike!
Anyway, standard setting for rear preload is 9mm i.e. wind off preload 'til the spring is completely unloaded then wind back up 'til the spring is 9mm shorter.
Thinking about it, it's a 160mm spring as standard on a Ducati Ohlins so the above mentioned 151mm spring length is the same as carrying 9mm of preload.
As NB says, make sure you measure with the rear suspension unloaded.
What weight of spring have you got on there? If you don't know, list all the writing on the spring. Adding or removing preload is not always the magical solution! Weight of rider needs to be taken into account so it could be you have a less than ideal spring on there - preload won't sort that out!
Cheers, Neil.
[Edited on 23-5-2004 by neil748r]
antonye
23-May-2004, 20:37
Those fairing mirror stays are 19 quid inc from a Ducati dealer, so watch it doesn't creep up too high.
As I'd managed to round out the allen socket in the shear bolt holding the mirror in place and couldn't get the mirror off, I thought that hitting the bolt with a chisel to knock the top off would do ... it's a shear bolt after all and I manage to snap them easy enough when tightening them up ... but all I did was end up breaking the fairing stay!
bossingit
23-May-2004, 20:44
sorry to hear that mate,im new here due to only getting my bike a couple of weeks ago,but ive been a **** to and broken mine already!!!!and its such a great evening for a ride!!!!
bradders
23-May-2004, 20:45
Originally posted by antonye
Those fairing mirror stays are 19 quid inc from a Ducati dealer, so watch it doesn't creep up too high.
As I'd managed to round out the allen socket in the shear bolt holding the mirror in place and couldn't get the mirror off, I thought that hitting the bolt with a chisel to knock the top off would do ... it's a shear bolt after all and I manage to snap them easy enough when tightening them up ... but all I did was end up breaking the fairing stay!
unfortunately, its not the arm I need but the complete headlight bracket. Also, it is the right altho it fell on the left - I guess it mustr have been stressed by the fall...that makes two of us:( Any idea how much the frame is? There is one on ebay, but need to watch I dont over pay.
Seen a nice carbon one on casoli - if only I had the £££
DJ Tera
23-May-2004, 20:48
I've seen headlight buckets go for anything from £5-£70 - I guess it depends on how many people dropped their bikes that day!
Wouldnt pay anymore than 50 quid to be honest
bradders
23-May-2004, 20:50
Originally posted by Mr_S
I'm passing by Moto Rapido weds / thurs this week, if they've got these parts (probably in a cardboard box somewhere...) let me know and I'll pick them up for you and save you the journey.
Steve & the boys seem to hoard boxes of these bits so may have the stuff kicking around.
[Edited on 23-5-2004 by Mr_S]
Thanks for the offer. I'm going to give Wilf a call tomorrow and ask what hes got - hopefully pick up thgis week.
Looks like Poole is off tho, depending on if I can fix bracket
Paul
antonye
24-May-2004, 10:27
Originally posted by PBSPS
unfortunately, its not the arm I need but the complete headlight bracket. ... Any idea how much the frame is?
No, I've not been that stupid yet so I don't know how much one of those is :D
Just phone up your local dealer and ask them how much one is. Just make sure you're sitting down first!
As DJ says, keep checking with ebay as you get one on there every so often.
It's just a thought, but is the fact that you can't reach the ground really to do with a few mm pre-load? 9mm difference is less than half an inch.
I'm on tip toes on my ST as well, but that's only because I've got the rear ride height adjustment ridiculously high. I had it set right (lifted about an inch from standard) but crammed a bit more on when I went from a 170 to 180 rear tyre. It made no odds to the speed of steering so I've been meaning to set it back again. In the meantime, I have had a couple of near goes when I've tried to get my foot down in a hurry.
Now I know 996's have rear ride height adjusters as well...just a thought.
DJ Tera
24-May-2004, 14:44
PB - how tall are you? I'm only 5ft 8 with 32" legs, the back of my 998 is jacked up nearly as far as it will go, and I can still put both feet flat on the ground, so unless you're even shorter then theres summat definitely wrong with your setup :lol:
bradders
24-May-2004, 16:19
Originally posted by DJ Tera
PB - how tall are you? I'm only 5ft 8 with 32" legs, the back of my 998 is jacked up nearly as far as it will go, and I can still put both feet flat on the ground, so unless you're even shorter then theres summat definitely wrong with your setup :lol:
more a question of how wide...ask yer mate Jewell! I am 5'8 but with one foot on the floor, my other is about 8" off the ground (at least!) hence wobbly if I dont plan ahead for stops.
I have also looked at the ride height adjuster and there is space to lower a bit. Going to have a go this week (hopefully) and see if it makes much difference. Will probably drop the front by one ring as well - then its the same as the 748 was (5 clear rings) If this fails, probably have to reverse the chain adjuster, at least this should take an inch off.
Alternatively, sell it and buy a harley!
Originally posted by PBSPS
Alternatively, sell it and buy a harley!
Don't you bl00dy dare, Paul!!!! :flame:
Get a Viagro 535 instead! :roll:
Paul,
One headlight bracket...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10448&item=7902858231&rd=1
everton
25-May-2004, 13:32
Paul,
I'm really gutted to hear about your spill..............as DJTera says it's all about inside leg measurement. I'm 5'10" with a 31" inside leg and was comfortable on my 996 & my current 999.
Hope you get everything sorted m8. Anything I can do let me know.
:(:(:(:(:(:(
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