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Dementor
08-Nov-2009, 20:20
Looks like fun :)
Dementor
08-Nov-2009, 20:37
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/gallery/2010-ducati-multistrada-1200-leaked-photos/2010-ducati-multistrada-1200-leak-3.jpg
Dementor
08-Nov-2009, 20:39
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/gallery/2010-ducati-multistrada-1200-leaked-photos/2010-ducati-multistrada-1200-leak-1.jpg
Dementor
08-Nov-2009, 20:41
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/gallery/2010-ducati-multistrada-1200-leaked-photos/2010-ducati-multistrada-1200-leak-2.jpg
Dementor
08-Nov-2009, 20:43
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/gallery/2010-ducati-multistrada-1200-leaked-photos/2010-ducati-multistrada-1200-leak-5.jpg
antonye
08-Nov-2009, 20:46
Full article and pics here:
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/2010-ducati-multistrada-1200-leaked-photos/
Dukeman358
08-Nov-2009, 21:30
It looks pretty tasty to me:)
I like it.Between that and a GS BMW,I'd have that!
bradders
08-Nov-2009, 22:53
if its anything like as easy to ride as a GS, with all that extra power, I may have one too!!
Dominic Clegg
09-Nov-2009, 08:52
like to see a police version
Its not for me,...I think its hideous.
Ducati really are losing the plot.:frog:
Its not for me,...I think its hideous.
Ducati really are losing the plot.:frog:
You won't want a go on mine when it arrives then mate?.................
John
They said that my old Multistrada was ugly!
Dementor
09-Nov-2009, 17:25
It has arrived :)
http://www.multistrada.ducati.com/jspmulti/index.jsp?lang=en
Rushjob
09-Nov-2009, 17:51
1. Impressed
2. Want one!!
:D
antonye
09-Nov-2009, 17:56
Video up on YouTube in case the Ducati site goes down...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzM-eDhyVkY
couchcommando
09-Nov-2009, 17:57
Best call and drop a deposit on one tomorrow :)
Steve M
09-Nov-2009, 20:54
Bikes like this are never going to be to everyone's liking, personally I really like it and a good move on from the old MS. BMW are going to be loosing a few sales me thinks. Some will no doubt say Ducati shouldn't build bikes like this but increased sales will only be good for everything Ducati. Bet it's more comfy than an 1198 too!!!
cant say I like the pictures but need to see it in the real world
cant say I like the pictures but need to see it in the real world
Comparison and details here:
http://www.onewheeldrive.net/2009/11/09/measuring-up-the-ducati-multistrada-1200-vs-1100s-bmw-r1200gs-ktm-990-adventure/
It's looking VERY good-and the first one is..................MINE!
John :D
Do think this looks cool.
Clint.
antonye
10-Nov-2009, 12:45
Do think this looks cool.
Clint.
Ooo! That looks nice! Customer special? More info?
That must mean the second one is mine then John ;)
some great info on that site, and the comparison to the adventure and gs is excellent given that they were also on my shopping list if the new Duke turned out to not be suitable for me.
The more I read the more excited I get.
on;y real concerns now are how high the pillion seat is, and how costly those special tyres will be.
See you guys tomorrow. I've charged my camera so hope there is plenty of 'scenery' to point it at :D
from: http://www.onewheeldrive.net/2009/11/09/the-ducati-multistrada-1200-in-detail/
"The gearbox and final drive ratios have also been optimised to enable the use of a higher-ratio 6th gear. This solution not only enables reduced fuel consumption, but also achieves increased riding comfort by reducing vibration. To give a practical example, if the 1198 reaches its top speed in 6th gear, the Multistrada 1200 is able to reach it in 5th gear and maintain it effortlessly in 6th."
Given just how highly the Dukes are normally geared, this sounds like 6th will be next to useless, and 5th might be too...
Question to you guys who ride bikes with slipper cluteches:
do you get any engine braking, or none at all ?
I rely quite heavily on engine braking at present, which is one of the great strengths of the 996 engine.
I'm wondering if this new slipper clutch might see me needing bucket loads of rear brake instead...
Dukerob
10-Nov-2009, 13:53
looks awesome, could be time to upgrade the 1000 Multi.... ;)
antonye
10-Nov-2009, 15:15
Question to you guys who ride bikes with slipper cluteches:
do you get any engine braking, or none at all ?
I rely quite heavily on engine braking at present, which is one of the great strengths of the 996 engine.
I'm wondering if this new slipper clutch might see me needing bucket loads of rear brake instead...
Of course you get engine braking, just like any other clutch.
The slipper only engages at a certain amount of torque - because don't forget that it's correct name is a "backwards torque limiting device", the idea being to stop the back wheel turning over the engine, rather than the other (correct!) way round.
With some slipper clutches you can change this amount of torque, and also the way that it engages by different degrees on the ramp interfaces.
couchcommando
10-Nov-2009, 16:22
dunno about the gearing as my 1198 is only happy in top at 100+mph so taller wouldn't be much use unless of course the power delivery is changed a lot, hmmmmm
from: http://www.onewheeldrive.net/2009/11/09/the-ducati-multistrada-1200-in-detail/
"The gearbox and final drive ratios have also been optimised to enable the use of a higher-ratio 6th gear. This solution not only enables reduced fuel consumption, but also achieves increased riding comfort by reducing vibration. To give a practical example, if the 1198 reaches its top speed in 6th gear, the Multistrada 1200 is able to reach it in 5th gear and maintain it effortlessly in 6th."
Given just how highly the Dukes are normally geared, this sounds like 6th will be next to useless, and 5th might be too...
I have worked out the gearing charts-I know, I know, I'm a sad case-anyway the gears are all the same as existing Monster/Multistrada/ST4S with the exception of 6th-which is higher than the Monster/Multistrada, and lower than the ST4S. Since I have been informed-indirectly-by Domenicali himself that the engine with it's new tune will pull happily from 2000rpm in 6th-'like an electric motor' I don't think we have much to worry about. The gearing works out that the bike will do 154 at peak power in 6th and 167 at 10,000 rpm. Personally I don't have any doubt that with 150bhp available it will manage to hit at least 154-if not more.
I have attached the chart if anyone is interested.
John
Thanks for the chart John, and thanks for the info on the slipper clutch Antonye.
So in escence the slipper just stops the bike from being over-revved, correct ?
I've never been to the EICMA show before, and was astounded by the size and number of exhibitors there. Was disappointed that Honda and Yamaha weren't there though.
Anyway, what did i think of the 1200 Multi ?
Gorgeous.
MCN gave it pretty good coverage this week, so I had a reasonable idea of what I would be seeing, but it looks even better in real life.
Sadly we weren't allowed to sit on it (one lady did - sorry I'm not sure of her name - expect the clip to make u-tube shortly though). I got told off for just touching the bike !
Everything looks well thought out.
The S-Sports model comes with carbon bits, and the S-Touring version has panniers, centre stand, & heated grips instead of the carbon. All the bits are going to be available as accessories though so its possible to have both.
I tried to have a chat with the marketing man but as to be expected he was major busy.
there are apparently bigger covers for the panniers which increase capacity by around 20 litres (total I think, not each). There will be taller / wider screen options too.
The bike has a connector in the loom ready to power a satnav, and a couple of accessory sockets back near the seat for powering heated clothing etc.
There is a cubby hole up the front on the right side. Not sure if there is one on the left or if the cover that is there is for the fuses (the guy didn't know and wouldn't open it for me).
The bikes were also showing a couple of varieties of after market cans.
Not sure I'll bother with these as my ST4S is so loud it might make a chance to have a quiet(er) bike for a while ;)
I have some pics, so will try to post them tomorrow (I'm out this evening).
One of the guys I spoke to said production is going to start shortly (i.e. this year) and first bikes should make the dealers in March, though they might be the demonstrators only. He confirmed S models only to start with.
Anyone else who went yesterday care to pass comment on what they saw ? ;)
Col996s
12-Nov-2009, 13:18
Nice report John.
Thanks Col.
Link to the MCN announcement of prices and delivery dates, plus a real world picture:
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2009/November/nov1009-Milan-show-Ducati-Multistrada-1200-to-cost-10995/?R=EPI-119944
antonye
12-Nov-2009, 16:04
So in escence the slipper just stops the bike from being over-revved, correct ?
Yes, it stops it being over-revved by the back wheel turning over the engine - kind of like wheelspin but in reverse!
The backwards torque on the clutch makes the centre hub slide up the ramps (usually 45deg, sometimes with ball-bearings in between) and this makes the centre pop-outwards and thus engaging the clutch. Once the torque goes, the centre is able to slide back down the ramps, and the clutch is let out again.
Very simple really!
I've attached a picture of the back of the slipper clutch centre hub, where you can see the ramps. They have grooves to run ball bearings inside as well.
thanks for the description.
I was corcerned I'd not have enough engine stopping power left for getting slowed down sufficiently to make things like the downhill hairpins in the alps :D
a bit like hitting a false neutral when you can least do with it. always good for a laugh, eh :eek:
Here's one picture which may give you an idea of the amount of technology stuffed into this bike-get a load of this dash!
John
blueduke
13-Nov-2009, 12:56
http://www.motoblog.it/galleria/novita-ducati-2010-eicma/13
enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlsxxv8zJzg
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