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Just wondering what the general opinion is about fastest lap time that the likes of Ron and Phil might be posting come Saturday?
Round about 0.5sec slower than ours Hugh ;)
Round about 0.5sec slower than ours Hugh ;)
I would be very happy if I would be that quick but I am getting a bit slower each round while others are getting quicker so think I might be a little bit further down the order this time. I would be over the moon with a top 5 at Snet, but just spent a small fortune on new kit so plan on driving like Miss Daisy. Only thing that I plan touching the floor this time is the soles of my boots!
I would be very happy if I would be that quick but I am getting a bit slower each round while others are getting quicker so think I might be a little bit further down the order this time. I would be over the moon with a top 5 at Snet, but just spent a small fortune on new kit so plan on driving like Miss Daisy. Only thing that I plan touching the floor this time is the soles of my boots!
No predictions from me, far too old for that game. :D I've been studying the map layout but in all honesty it means nothing till you are there doing it.
Just going to use the test day to learn, build and hopefully be correct on the gearing, which I'm about to change tonight in readiness with a semi educated guess. :D
Bionicle
13-Jun-2011, 19:33
Chris.P and myself just changed my gearing, not sure it will make much difference to my lap times though, first time i will see the new layout will be during first practice Saturday.
Chris.P and myself just changed my gearing, not sure it will make much difference to my lap times though, first time i will see the new layout will be during first practice Saturday.
Lets just hope for dryness as no one has tried these awesome dry tyres in the wet yet. :D
No predictions from me, far too old for that game. :D Ditto Phil and a year older on the Friday (well technically only a day older than the Thursday):) I've been studying the map layout but in all honesty it means nothing till you are there doing it.
Just going to use the test day to learn, build and hopefully be correct on the gearing, which I'm about to change tonight in readiness with a semi educated guess. :D
Now I know a lot of peeps play it close to their chest but not me... 14/41 or 14/40 is about right with my engine ;)
Lets just hope for dryness as no one has tried these awesome dry tyres in the wet yet. :D
I tried them on a TD at the end of Feb. on a wet Snetterton 300 circuit ;)
1st session new tyre and very wet so toodled round.. 2nd session dryish line a bit quicker.. 3rd session fuelling probs so broke down 3 times in 5laps and then went home :mad:
Forecast is rain Thursday... Sunshine Friday... Raining Saturday and Sunday at the moment, so fingers crossed they get it wrong.
No predictions from me, far too old for that game. :D
Ditto Phil and a year older on the Friday (well technically only a day older than the Thursday)
Cant believe that you both are young enough to race but too old to have a guess on what a quick lap might be around Snet?!
It wasnt for money or honour, I was just curious what people thought as I havent got a clue what to aim for.
As for gearing Ive only used the one for all the races so far this year and I havent got a clue what that is! Not had any experience playing with sprockets, perhaps I might do that with all the testing time I will have on Friday!
Lets just hope for dryness as no one has tried these awesome dry tyres in the wet yet. :D
What about the first practice at Anglesey? Wasnt raining but the track was pretty wet from what I remember.
What about the first practice at Anglesey? Wasnt raining but the track was pretty wet from what I remember.
Was it?? I must be suffering from that ailment. I can't recall what they call it now. :D
As its new to us I don't think there is anything to aim for it will be what it is and peeps will hang onto each other and get pulled along or hopefully left behind. :D Its going to work those tyres.
Oulton Park is just short of 2.7 miles Sam West was on a 2:04 this Snett is very nadjerry and 3 miles so I'm going to have a rough guess at 2:38. :eek:
Was it?? I must be suffering from that ailment. I can't recall what they call it now. :D
As its new to us I don't think there is anything to aim for it will be what it is and peeps will hang onto each other and get pulled along or hopefully left behind. :D Its going to work those tyres.
Oulton Park is just short of 2.7 miles Sam West was on a 2:04 this Snett is very nadjerry and 3 miles so I'm going to have a rough guess at 2:38. :eek:
Over 2 1/2 mins a lap, wow! I think there is a genuine fear that I might have a snooze on the straights. I like tracks like Brands, short and sweet with the roller coaster 'Paddock Hill' to make sure you're awake:D
bradders
13-Jun-2011, 22:01
Not sure may be worth a loom at what the MRO minitwins or streetfighter c with TGB were doing as I think both have been there already.
Re gearing, skids has a great theory I reckon I will be adopting: fast medium slow tracks. This is a fast one so 43 I reckon as Anglesey should have been a 44 but thd wind meant I could get the extra bit so just overrevved
So that's 45 at mallory and brands, 44 Anglesey and 43 snett. Done
Not sure may be worth a loom at what the MRO minitwins or streetfighter c with TGB were doing as I think both have been there already.
Re gearing, skids has a great theory I reckon I will be adopting: fast medium slow tracks. This is a fast one so 43 I reckon as Anglesey should have been a 44 but thd wind meant I could get the extra bit so just overrevved
So that's 45 at mallory and brands, 44 Anglesey and 43 snett. Done
Thanks Bradders, I will dig into the box of spare sprockets and go with 2 more than whats on there and work back from there.
bradders
13-Jun-2011, 22:12
Bemsee have raced there, slowest minitwin 2.26 and formula 400 were 2.20 thru to 3 mins plus. 2.30 I reckon....and A class 2.23
bradders
13-Jun-2011, 22:14
Thanks Bradders, I will dig into the box of spare sprockets and go with 2 more than whats on there and work back from there.
:lol: 2 less. If Anglesey was find and you were revving out up the hill then 1 more and 1 less I reckon would do it ;) but be warned; I know feck all
Cranker V2
13-Jun-2011, 22:25
I must say I do like the new circuit at snetterton. Its fast, and flowing and gearing was very important on the DD bike, giving a variation of 3 seconds a lap over a combination of 3 different sprockets.
Anyways, see you all friday eve. I do hope its dry Friday, but who cares on Saturday/sunday. :cool:
skidlids
13-Jun-2011, 22:32
What about the first practice at Anglesey? Wasnt raining but the track was pretty wet from what I remember.
As was the Brands test day at the begining of the season a few weeks before the Brands round when most other classes were falling off while using Wets yet every DD bike stayed upright even with oil mixing with the wet in certain areas of the track.
To me it wasn't just about grip in the wet but more about feel / feedback, racing a 130bhp Fireblade in Streetstocks at a very wet Thruxton it was easy to break traction but the road tyres were so predictable it was fun, just as the Wet DD race at Assen was a few years ago when on the Diablos.
But I'm hoping for good weather as I just don't seem to be able to push the bike as hard as I once did and i'm certainly not getting the most from these tyres yet, hence quite a few bike mods since Anglesey as I try to get back to my 2005/6 setup that had me collecting Pots and front row starts in Class B and NG Minitwins
As for Lap times Hugh I've seen you breeze bast me as if I was stood still, so if you learn the track quick enough and get the bike setup right you should be right up there competeing for the lap record and with Snett being Neal's local track it would be nice to see him up there also. Then there are the other usual suspects such as Kev P, who has some lost ground to make up and that old codger Alan who's getting quicker all the time and has already tried the new circuit. So dispite the long circuit it could be close racing up the front of the Class B field
bradders
13-Jun-2011, 22:32
I must say I do like the new circuit at snetterton. Its fast, and flowing and gearing was very important on the DD bike, giving a variation of 3 seconds a lap over a combination of 3 different sprockets.
Anyways, see you all friday eve. I do hope its dry Friday, but who cares on Saturday/sunday. :cool:
Don't be shy....what gearing and laptimes predictions please ;)
I must say I do like the new circuit at snetterton. Its fast, and flowing and gearing was very important on the DD bike, giving a variation of 3 seconds a lap over a combination of 3 different sprockets.
Anyways, see you all friday eve. I do hope its dry Friday, but who cares on Saturday/sunday. :cool:
Ahh Mr T. You have had a play already by the look of things. :cool:
bradders
13-Jun-2011, 22:39
Ahh Mr T. You have had a play already by the look of things. :cool:
Won't do him any good, he'll run out of puff :p
:lol:
Won't do him any good, he'll run out of puff :p
:lol:
I'm hoping a lot of others, including you, will also. :D
bradders
13-Jun-2011, 23:01
I'm hoping a lot of others, including you, will also. :D
That's the only thing I can assure you I won't do :D
:lol: 2 less. If Anglesey was find and you were revving out up the hill then 1 more and 1 less I reckon would do it ;) but be warned; I know feck all
:puzzled: No I just thought I would be ultra careful and start with two more and work all the way back to 2 less! hahaha
Thanks for that, yes I think I mean 2 less!
:puzzled: No I just thought I would be ultra careful and start with two more and work all the way back to 2 less! hahaha
Thanks for that, yes I think I mean 2 less!
Hugh when thinking of gearing just think push bike if its harder to pedal you change the sprocket to a larger on the rear or smaller on the front, to make it easier to pedal.
No more tips. :D
Hugh when thinking of gearing just think push bike if its harder to pedal you change the sprocket to a larger on the rear or smaller on the front, to make it easier to pedal.
No more tips. :D
Its funny that gearing isnt 2nd nature to me considering I cycle about 100km a week training for my first Triathlon end July.
Its funny that gearing isnt 2nd nature to me considering I cycle about 100km a week training for my first Triathlon end July.
Wow well done, huge respect.p
Oulton Park is just short of 2.7 miles Sam West was on a 2:04 this Snett is very nadjerry and 3 miles so I'm going to have a rough guess at 2:38. :eek:
Ok, I'll stop when I get to 2:38 ;)
The thing to remember is the B record on the old 2mile circuit is under 1m24s. I don't see another mile (which doesn't seem as tight as some of the 1mile tracks we go to) adding more than another minute. I personally think you will need to be under 2m30s.
As for Lap times Hugh I've seen you breeze bast me as if I was stood still, so if you learn the track quick enough and get the bike setup right you should be right up there competeing for the lap record and with Snett being Neal's local track it would be nice to see him up there also. Then there are the other usual suspects such as Kev P, who has some lost ground to make up and that old codger Alan who's getting quicker all the time and has already tried the new circuit. So dispite the long circuit it could be close racing up the front of the Class B field
I didn't realize it was Neal's home track? I thought Brands was? He was good there last year though, and it is about time he bucked up his ideas! Alan was quick there last year, it is his home track, and is one of the few to have been there... So let's all follow him for a change.
I'm not racing this weekend. I'm just there for the craic! ;)
Wow well done, huge respect.p
Thanks for the support but I am not there yet! Distance is 1.5k swim (in the Thames :o ), 40k bike, 10k run. The Cycling is coming on well enough and have managed to improve my running from not being able to manage 2k in Jan to doing a half marathon last Saturday.
The 1.5km swim is a different story, so far I can only manage 16 lengths of the pool (400m) before I start struggling with my breathing and become exhausted. I am booked in for a couple of lessons which I hope will help me out because I figure it will be a lot harder in the Thames dodging beer cans and nappies!
badgerpilot
14-Jun-2011, 10:02
Sprocket??? I thought that was the dog in Fraggle Rock!!
Is it the spikey round thing the metal drive belt goes round?
I've got a choice of 14 or 15 front with a 40 something on the back, will try both if I can be ar*ed swapping them between sessions.
That's assuming I go, mum's been taken into hospital and if I can get a refund I'll be ducking out of this one. :( If not I'll be there on fast return standby and possibly not with my head in the right frame of mind, mum's told me not to be a d*ck head an waste over £200. :o
badgerpilot
14-Jun-2011, 10:05
Thanks for the support but I am not there yet! Distance is 1.5k swim (in the Thames :o ), 40k bike, 10k run. The Cycling is coming on well enough and have managed to improve my running from not being able to manage 2k in Jan to doing a half marathon last Saturday.
The 1.5km swim is a different story, so far I can only manage 16 lengths of the pool (400m) before I start struggling with my breathing and become exhausted. I am booked in for a couple of lessons which I hope will help me out because I figure it will be a lot harder in the Thames dodging beer cans and nappies!
Ditto on the big respec dude but be careful in the Thames as it's getting cleaner nowadays. There could be a hungry stray Nobby Clark about! :eek:
I am booked in for a couple of lessons which I hope will help me out because I figure it will be a lot harder in the Thames dodging beer cans and nappies!
From what I have heard it is being elbowed/thumped/dunked/grabbed by the other competitors which is hardest to deal with.
That's assuming I go, mum's been taken into hospital and if I can get a refund I'll be ducking out of this one. :( If not I'll be there on fast return standby and possibly not with my head in the right frame of mind, mum's told me not to be a d*ck head an waste over £200. :o
good luck with whatever you decide to do. We will still be there to welcome you at Pembrey if you don't make Snett. Hope everything works out.
Cranker V2
14-Jun-2011, 12:21
Scott,
you will be missed if you cant come on. And as Hugh says, a big welcome when we see you next. I hope all stays ok for you.
Snetterton time I am aiming for is a 2min 20ish lap.................
Snetterton time I am aiming for is a 2min 20ish lap.................
Ambitious on a wet track!
My predictions from January....
Class A 2m14.4s
Class B 2m19.4s
...it will be interesting to see I I'm anywhere near (if it is dry)!
bradders
14-Jun-2011, 15:29
but a bloke Hugh's size can cover a mile in about 4 steps!! :lol:
reckon mid 1 20's if dry
but a bloke Hugh's size can cover a mile in about 4 steps!! :lol:
reckon mid 1 20's if dry
Mallory is 1.4 miles and a 1.04 is respectable. So with a 3 mile track and a tight hairpin and far more bends, it is certainly going to be well into the 2 mins bracket. IMHO. :D
but a bloke Hugh's size can cover a mile in about 4 steps!! :lol:
reckon mid 1 20's if dry
Do you mean mid 2 20's or are you just feeling very fast right now?
bradders
14-Jun-2011, 20:16
:lol: deliberate mistake 2 min of course ;)
Well, no-one has guessed right this year even for the tracks we had already been to... we will know by Sat night... or maybe not, judging by the weather!
badgerpilot
14-Jun-2011, 20:55
Scott,
you will be missed if you cant come on. And as Hugh says, a big welcome when we see you next. I hope all stays ok for you.
Cheers matey, and Ron, but I'll defo be missing this weekend. Bigger issues and priorities atm. :(
Cheers matey, and Ron, but I'll defo be missing this weekend. Bigger issues and priorities atm. :(
No worries chap. We all realize we are only here once... Part of the reason we race while we can. Sometimes though, very occasionally, something is more important than racing (very occasionally). Joking aside, I hope things work out for the best.
Hurry back though... I need someone to occupy Bradders before he gets too fast!
Bionicle
20-Jun-2011, 11:13
Hurry back though... I need someone to occupy Bradders before he gets too fast!
I think its a little late for that following Bradders 1st place :)
bradders
20-Jun-2011, 14:59
think I may have a record too then...quickest B race time?! Yeehar :D
think I may have a record too then...quickest B race time?! Yeehar :D
Yes, you do. Now I am back from the deepest darkest depths of the Swedish countryside I have updated the Wiki page.
My predictions from January....
Class A 2m14.4s
Class B 2m19.4s
...it will be interesting to see I I'm anywhere near (if it is dry)!
I wasn't too far off the mark in the end, with Class A coming out at 2m16s and Class B at 2m 22s.
numbskull
27-Jun-2011, 10:14
Sorry I didn't ride fast enough Ron!
bradders
27-Jun-2011, 10:34
Sorry I didn't ride fast enough Ron!
sure you had a second or two in the tank ;)
I may have had a second on the back straight but dont think I could have made any more time up in any corner - possibly excepting the last - and am amazed we broke the 23's (Phil and Neal the 22's)
wonder what will happen to the Pembrey time
wonder what will happen to the Pembrey time
Not a lot. Dallas posted a superhuman time he couldn't even match on the same bike with a 620 motor upgrade!
skidlids
27-Jun-2011, 17:52
Not a lot. Dallas posted a superhuman time he couldn't even match on the same bike with a 620 motor upgrade!
To be honest Dallas didn't do that many race laps last year and Friday Practice and Saturday racing were Wet so again not a lot of track time compared to the year before, when we had 3 days of glorious sunshine.
The Pembrey Class B lap record is the closest percentage wise to the Class A Lap record at any of the Circuits we visit, so should be the hardest to beat, but in the dry these Dunlops have got to be better around the Woodlands kink and Honda curve than the older Diablos.
Still in a few weeks we'll find out
bradders
27-Jun-2011, 18:58
Honda Curve - no brakes, down a gear flat out is the plan - or roll off top then on again.....hold breath and tunr method works for me :D Was brake and down 1 last year and will be trying higher gearing this time, same as Snetterton, so with a bit of luck may be going a little quicker
But I have cadwell to work on first next week.....wonder if they will have the beacon on for the open pit day; or try and get someone to chuck a stopwatch on for a session or two
Honda Curve - no brakes, down a gear flat out is the plan - or roll off top then on again.....hold breath and tunr method works for me :D Was brake and down 1 last year and will be trying higher gearing this time, same as Snetterton, so with a bit of luck may be going a little quicker
But I have cadwell to work on first next week.....wonder if they will have the beacon on for the open pit day; or try and get someone to chuck a stopwatch on for a session or two
I'll be putting the camera on. Bike already to rock to test for oil leak fix. :D
bradders
27-Jun-2011, 19:25
I'll be putting the camera on. Bike already to rock to test for oil leak fix. :D
fantastic, hope I'm close enough to get a shot or two at least once
fantastic, hope I'm close enough to get a shot or two at least once
I've got all day, so not going banzai in the early sessions. :devil: :rolleyes:
The Pembrey Class B lap record is the closest percentage wise to the Class A Lap record at any of the Circuits we visit, so should be the hardest to beat, but in the dry these Dunlops have got to be better around the Woodlands kink and Honda curve than the older Diablos.
See, I don't think the Pirellis were that bad in those types of bends if you pushed them hard enough... Same at Mallory and Brands. There are a few types of corners where they feel a bit better... But it is just that they feel better, rather than that they grip a significant amount better. Although that is just my opinion, as usual I could be talking nonsense!
bradders
27-Jun-2011, 21:23
See, I don't think the Pirellis were that bad in those types of bends if you pushed them hard enough... Same at Mallory and Brands. There are a few types of corners where they feel a bit better... But it is just that they feel better, rather than that they grip a significant amount better. Although that is just my opinion, as usual I could be talking nonsense!
think Dallas did that time on the old Diablos too which IMO (probably tosh too! :lol: ) were faaaar better than the Rossos
bradders
27-Jun-2011, 21:25
I've got all day, so not going banzai in the early sessions. :devil: :rolleyes:
ha no, its a trackday too; you saw at Anglesey my TD head is different to race head. Its abouyt having a laugh and gentle competition with mates rather than 'must pass' etc
On the Tuesday, however, its open pit so will be messing with stuff and using as a test day
ha no, its a trackday too; you saw at Anglesey my TD head is different to race head. Its abouyt having a laugh and gentle competition with mates rather than 'must pass' etc
On the Tuesday, however, its open pit so will be messing with stuff and using as a test day
Thats the spirit exactly, just hope its dry. :eek:
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