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flatline
03-Dec-2011, 15:51
Does anyone know if there are any wire wheels that will fit a 750ss 92 plate?
Regards
Does anyone know if there are any wire wheels that will fit a 750ss 92 plate?
Regards
Rich at Louigi Moto fitted a set of Sport classic wheels to a Monster.
flatline
03-Dec-2011, 22:16
Thanks buddy
Iconic944ss
04-Dec-2011, 10:25
I nearly went this route too for a project, as I was offered a set of Paul Smart rep wire wheels but... different axle sizes to an older SS - but could be worked around by someone determined!
http://www.motorbikespecs.net/images/Ducati/Paul_Smart_1000_LE_%28992cc%29_06/Paul_Smart_1000_LE_%28992cc%29_06_1.jpg
skidlids
04-Dec-2011, 10:34
I'd try and find an alternative otherwise you will be sorting out either wheel spindles or bearings as well as calipers, or Change the forks to the later type but then you would also need a new spindle and to sort calipers
I'm sure there are wheels out there that may be a easier conversion
flatline
04-Dec-2011, 15:54
Thanks for info
Iconic944ss
04-Dec-2011, 21:08
Apparently, the wire spokes will catch on a standard mount caliper!
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/57-supersport/53935-sport-classic-wheels-ss.html
skidlids
04-Dec-2011, 23:30
Apparently, the wire spokes will catch on a standard mount caliper!
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/57-supersport/53935-sport-classic-wheels-ss.html
Yep and as the 92 SS has 40mm caliper mounts you wouldn't be able to fit the ones from the sport classic, front wheel spindle is also a different size and fits into the forks differently.
Be better going with something like a Moto Guzzi front wheel or similar
http://image.motorcyclecruiser.com/f/9161378/lg+2003_moto_guzzi_california_aluminum_special_spo rt+wheel_view.jpg
The wider back wheel is also designed for a 180 section tyre which would slow the 750s turning down
flatline
05-Dec-2011, 10:57
So what is it that I need to know to find another wheel?
Obviously the size: Both 17inch, 3.5 inch front 5.5 back
Where is the info about spindle size and, and, and, and etc?
Lets use a yamaha R1 as an example:
Assuming you found out the tyres were the same size front and rear, how do you guys find out if the wheels fit the bike you want to use?
Is the info published anywhere in order to make comparisons?
Surely there are other manufacturers bikes with the same size wheels?
This project lark is much harder than I first thought, which you guys know already!
skidlids
05-Dec-2011, 11:33
So what is it that I need to know to find another wheel?
Obviously the size: Both 17inch, 3.5 inch front 5.5 back
Where is the info about spindle size and, and, and, and etc?
Lets use a yamaha R1 as an example:
Assuming you found out the tyres were the same size front and rear, how do you guys find out if the wheels fit the bike you want to use?
Is the info published anywhere in order to make comparisons?
Surely there are other manufacturers bikes with the same size wheels?
This project lark is much harder than I first thought, which you guys know already!
I intend building a lightweight aircooled special in the not to distant future (although not intending to use wire spoked wheels), having previously built several Harris Magnums as well as owning Moto Martins and Bimotas and have been modifying and upgrading bikes since the early Eighties and it has always involved a lot of research.
Personally I would prefer a 5" wheel with a 170 tyre but once you have decided on Rim sizes it is a matter of checking to see whats suitable.
Firstly you beed to know what sizes you already have, that includes Spindle sizes and therefore bearing inner diameters, Disc Spacing, Hub width, Gap between forks, Speedo Drive fitment, swingarm gap, chain alignment.
Ducati for years fitted 320mm discs with 10mm offset and 64mm mounting Boss with fixing bolts on a 80mm PCD.
Luckily they were not alone in using these sizes. The lkes of Aprilia, Moto Guzzi, Yamaha and a few others also used these sizes. Sometimes the Disc OD changed, 276mm, 280mm, 290mm, 300mm disc were/are all available.
Yamaha were using a 64mm Boss with 80MM PCD back in the late 70's
Back then front spindle sizes were often 15mm and have increased over the years.
The Honda 400/4 I had in 1980 had Yamaha XS250 Fork Lowers, wheel, discs, calipers, spindle and speedo drive fitted allowing me to run twin discs and get away from Hondas horrible pivoting caliper that often seized up, A couple of years later my 2nd 400/4 was fitted with wheels and Forks from a Yam YPVS 350. Cafe racers of their day with Rickman half fairings, Dresda swingarms, Marzocchi Strada Shocks etc
flatline
05-Dec-2011, 17:24
So that's a yes then?
Seriously, thanks for that
I will print it off and keep it handy
Iconic944ss
05-Dec-2011, 23:41
Might be worthwhile having a word with the Guys at Baines Racing:
http://www.bainesracing.co.uk/index.html
They must have lots of experience after crafting the Imola replica:
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/community/Media-Gallery-Results/Media-Gallery-Detail/?mediaItemId=61873
and hopefully:
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/Shared/PageTemplates/NetstarCommunity/OriginalImageDisplay.aspx?image-id=61873
Iconic944ss
06-Dec-2011, 00:17
I couldn't stop, once I'd started looking.... it can & has been done:
http://www.fotothing.com/photos/266/2663338280c1451f498f0ae7484219fc_a82.jpg
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442903&page=7
and they might still be available to buy....if your pockets are deep:
http://www.mdinaitalia.co.uk/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=70-1007
Cheers - Frank
flatline
06-Dec-2011, 10:03
Cheap they aint:o :o
I paid £250 for the bike:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I will have to look around for some motocross wheels
Seem to be plent of those with wire wheels
Iconic944ss
06-Dec-2011, 22:56
You wait for ages for a bus....
http://www.ducati-upnorth.com/forum/showthread.php?15517-Interesting-900SS&p=184413
skidlids
07-Dec-2011, 01:09
I will have to look around for some motocross wheels
21" front wheel should be interesting, Supermoto would be a better choice
Something like these but I would be asking for Rim sizes and if your intending using a twin disc setup you would need to know if the front wheel can take a second disc
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-LC4-SUPER-MOTO-WHEELS-/150710931426?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2317124fe2
Early Yamaha front hubs could be laced to later 17" Akront or Excel Rims,
But without one to try or measure up you wouldn't know which calipers could be used.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FRONT-WHEEL-ALLOY-SHOULDER-TIRE-1976-YAMAHA-XS650-447-/140612835680?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20bd2d9960
Although some prices are OTT for that classic part
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HERITAGE-SPECIAL-WHEEL-HUB-SET-RAD-NABE-RADNABE-XS-650-/380364838318?pt=Motorrad_Kraftradteile&hash=item588f82d5ae
When the Sport Classic Race series was proposed a few years ago (2008 I think) I'm fairly certain the Demo Bike was adorned with a Set of AP Lockheed 4-Pots specially made to clear the spokes
flatline
07-Dec-2011, 21:17
Guys, thanks for all the info
It's a bit too much for me at the moment
I am at the stage of needing to be told which wheels will fit:(
I would't know where to start so I reckon I will stick to the originals for the time being
As I get more knowledge I can have a look again
I am thankful for your input, and I am always impressed by how much you guy know and are willing to help:)
Gonna start working on the monster loom and figure out where it all goes!
Regards
flatline
07-Dec-2011, 21:18
Those KTM items look good though
skidlids
07-Dec-2011, 22:34
Gonna start working on the monster loom and figure out where it all goes!
A few Clues
flatline
08-Dec-2011, 08:20
You're a star
Have a beer on me
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