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Henners
10-Aug-2004, 15:38

TP
10-Aug-2004, 15:40
I've voted for Paul Smart - tough choice though! I really wanted Troy Bayliss but he wouldn't be able to make events and TD's etc whereas Paul lives in Kent so the likelyhood is higher ...

yeti
10-Aug-2004, 15:45
Think you need to have another nomination - "Other" cos my vote still goes to Kwikbitch!

Is there a [lust] smiley anywhere.................

Henners
10-Aug-2004, 15:52
Alsdo considered Dribble - but he'd have to join the club :frog:

Iconic944ss
10-Aug-2004, 15:53
I was going to vote Toseland as I think our president should be English at least however, even though Foggy is running the Petronas team he still seems to always be linked (even with the general public) as the image of Ducati.

It still seems to me that WSB was at its hayday when Foggy was trouncing on everybody.

Its just a shame that some of his reported comments and attitude have tarnished his image a little - in my mind, anyway.

But, for a modern image of a sporting Ducati tradition I still think Foggy gets the nod.

Cheers - Frank

ali
10-Aug-2004, 15:59
Frankie or The Doctor, but both would be totally impractical.....

Never know though, if Vale wins it on the Yam he might just have a go at dragging the 'sedici onto the podium. :):):). Lives in London, can ride a bike, knows how to party.... my kind of president. :D

Cheers,

Ali

yeti
10-Aug-2004, 16:00
Iconic, have you ever met the man? Think if you had you might have a somewhat different opinion. That said I wish I could ride a bike 10% as well!

FiscusFish
10-Aug-2004, 16:07
You forgot to add the choice of "Anyone but Foggy"...

Felix
10-Aug-2004, 16:09
Hodgeson. He is still current WSB champ.

Loz
10-Aug-2004, 16:11
Why isn't Ruben Xaus one of the options? :)

MJS
10-Aug-2004, 16:12
I'm happy with the idea of Foggy as President, British and totally succesful on Ducati's... who else could be better?

If the fact he's no longer involved is a problem, then my money's on Hodgson - British, reigning world champion on a Ducati, currently racing a Ducati at the highest level... and a genuine nice guy...

yeti
10-Aug-2004, 16:15
Oh come on! How on earth can we possible condone having a president who is running a rival team, and hasn't been heard to say a decent word about Ducati in the longest time. :ninja:

AK
10-Aug-2004, 16:15
Henners, under the current ruling, how long is a president allowed to be at the helm?:puzzled:

A 2 year term would be a good idea, as already said.

Shame the gorgeous Mr Zaus isnt on the list....:( (if he had been ,I'd have created lots of accounts on here to vote for him!!!:D - e as a luvrly bum:D:D:D)

Paul Smart would be a very active & sociable President tho

C:)

[Edited on 10-8-2004 by CK and AK]

Triple Nine
10-Aug-2004, 17:05
It wouldn't be for the message board to decide anyway, it's an AGM vote by the DSC paid up membership surely:P

Tin hat on, and Foggy stays:lol:

nelly
10-Aug-2004, 17:06
have to be flappa for me. Smart running a close second.
Both Ducati legends. As with Foggy, the others could be wearing someone elses leathers next year????

Desmondo
10-Aug-2004, 17:32
It seems silly to suggest any of the current racers as they'll probably be off to another team in a year or so anyway. I say sticke with somebody who when you think of them, you think of Ducati. If that means staying with Foggy then so be it. I quite like him anyway.

Frankie won't sack himself so he should be on a Duke for the rest of his racing days, but how long will that be?

Henners
10-Aug-2004, 17:32
It wouldn't be for the message board to decide anyway, it's an AGM vote by the DSC paid up membership surely

Agreed Roy - just checking the appetite for change - expect a resolution at the next AGM.

TP
10-Aug-2004, 17:38
Originally posted by Desmondo
It seems silly to suggest any of the current racers as they'll probably be off to another team in a year or so anyway. I say sticke with somebody who when you think of them, you think of Ducati.

This is why I reckon it should be Paul Smart. That name is indelibly associated with Ducati ever since the Imola 200. That race put Ducati back on the map in racing and was the first success of the L twin that all of our bikes have evolved from today.

You know it makes sense.

baylissboy
10-Aug-2004, 17:38
Flappa gets my vote! Ex works rider,still wears the Ducati "uniform",travels over Europe to race meetings off his own bat & he's loved at the Ducati factory!!

Iconic944ss
10-Aug-2004, 18:06
If our El Presidente is supposed to be a rider then really, even for a nipper like me it can only be Mike Hailwood !!!

Failing that how about Tambourini / Taglioni etc (sorry for naff spelling).

Frank

Henners
10-Aug-2004, 18:18
I'm with the Paul Smart camp if the AGM votes a change 'cos he's a great guy, he's based in the UK and I know he'd take a keen interest in the club - which Foggy never has. I suppose its whether you want a figurehead or a 'working' President.

Loz
10-Aug-2004, 18:24
Originally posted by Henners
I'm with the Paul Smart camp if the AGM votes a change 'cos he's a great guy, he's based in the UK and I know he'd take a keen interest in the club - which Foggy never has. I suppose its whether you want a figurehead or a 'working' President.

Yeah, what he said :D

lizzie
10-Aug-2004, 19:03
.... Ducati in this country would not be as it is today without Foggy. Yep he is and always was obnoxious, but you ask almost any man in the street who they associate with Ducati and they will say Foggy. I've voted to keep the status quo, much as everyone agrees Paul Smart is a sterling fellow.

Frank - Mike Hailwood - is there not a slight technical hitch there?

And Baylissboy - Falappa travels 'off his own bat'. Are you sure about that?

lizzie
10-Aug-2004, 19:07
TP - "Member of the Day is tp-996 with 63 posts" - so far. Glad I don't employ you ;)

TP
10-Aug-2004, 19:31
Originally posted by lizzie
TP - "Member of the Day is tp-996 with 63 posts" - so far. Glad I don't employ you ;)

That actually includes last night shenanigans trying to win bits of billet - not very many of those actually came from today. I wouldn't be surprised it it's more a rolling 24 hour period it works that out from.

And you couldn't afford me :P

Redruth
10-Aug-2004, 19:51
Originally posted by lizzie
.... Ducati in this country would not be as it is today without Foggy. Yep he is and always was obnoxious, ...

Judging by the grin on your face on the home page, Lizzie, I felt sure you'd be voting for James, as I did. No logic behind that choice other than (a) rides a bike like a god and (b) plays piano similarly. Two things I aspire to and (at this stage in life) ain't likely to achieve.

Nah, if I'm honest, totally girlie vote, no technical backing whatsoever.

Interestingly, Foggy was interviewed in Sunday Times 3 or 4 weeks ago fully admitting how obnoxious he is and comparing himself to some other (deceased) rider, whose name I don't recall, saying how alike they were. If your going to be obnoxious, being brash about it helps. :eureka:

rcgbob44
10-Aug-2004, 19:54
Yeti
You creep, keep yer hands of my woman!:lol:

rcgbob44
10-Aug-2004, 19:57
or wot about Mr Honda, he made us so superior to other motoprcycle owners!:D

ziggi
10-Aug-2004, 22:30
Honestly - I don't really care. You'll all change your minds again when Foggy runs a desmosedici team :D

Iconic944ss
10-Aug-2004, 23:37
Awwww - Lizzie....

Back in 1978 Ducati persuaded Mike Hailwood to come out of retirement and returned to the TT. Here he is on the Steve Wynne prepared Sports Motorcycles Ducati 900 desmo at the Waterworks on route to his historic TT victory !!!


http://www.italia.co.uk/isleofman/jpg/tt-racers/hailwood.jpg

Please go to the headmasters office - LOL

Frank

Iconic944ss
11-Aug-2004, 00:03
Change of plan (again)....

On a personal level I was thinking about the dozens of people on here who have helped me with various problems (some Non-Ducati as well).

Maybe a one year term of office might be appropriate and for helping the website subscribers generally, I vote for...

SHAZZAM !!!

[Edited on 10-8-2004 by Iconic944ss]

KeefyB
11-Aug-2004, 10:48
Nelly was bang on with his post,the likes of Chilli and Toseland will probably be riding Honda's and Kawasaki's next year,if the rumours are correct.
Nah,gotta be British,have a deep Ducati history and preferably still be alive.
Paul Smart it is then!
BTW,Has anyone thought of asking him if he wants to be president?:puzzled:

kwikbitch
11-Aug-2004, 10:55
Does it have to be a rider?...Frank does have a point...

None of us would be on these machines raving about the throb of the
v twin without the designers/engineers etc

AND...what about some of the outsiders...
Chilli for instance...whipping the a55es off the squillion odd quid tuned up Dukes. Best fight for first on a bike I've ever seen.
Stuff what the technical spec and graphowhatsits say...riding with Passion...Isn't that what it's all about?:saint:

yeti
11-Aug-2004, 10:57
My vote still goes for Kwikbitche's A555..............:devil:

Henners
11-Aug-2004, 11:01
BTW,Has anyone thought of asking him if he wants to be president

Just a hypothetical discussion at the moment KB. When I met him at Brands WSB he said he be happy to get more involved with the club.

andyb
11-Aug-2004, 11:06
Ill pick that up for you Henners, you appear to have dropped something........:roll:

andyb
11-Aug-2004, 11:07
Why, when its an Italian bike that were hooked on, does the President have to be British?

dickieducati
11-Aug-2004, 11:11
err its a british club, with mainly britsh people in it.

and it would be nice if there was some involvement from the president, can see an italian flying over to watch a load of us wobble round mallory in the rain for example.

andyb
11-Aug-2004, 11:31
Yeah, Henners was saying only the other day, Paul Smart wants to come and watch Dickie (the riding god) at Mallory.....

Steve M
11-Aug-2004, 11:33
And wouldn't it be something special if we had Paul Smart on his Imola bike at our track day. Oh yes yes yes.:bouncy:
Or the Sport Classic Paul Smart rep.


http://www.ducati.com/docs_eng/photogalleries/0074/images/f11.jpg

[Edited on 11-8-2004 by STEVE M]

andyb
11-Aug-2004, 11:38
Be even better if Capirossi came on a Desmosedici.... oo errr.

Ozz
11-Aug-2004, 12:48
If you didn't necessarily want a racer or ex-racer then how about Oliver Tobias who owns a MH1000 bought from the man himself and is featured in this months Classic Bike mag.

Just a thought. I'll get me coat..........

Dukerob
11-Aug-2004, 13:57
Maybe what we should be doing is defining the role of a President, surely that will then help to indicate what are the most important attributes (UK based, still riding Dukes, honorary figurehead who we never see etc) before a more informed vote at the AGM.

If the role is already defined or someone else has suggested this then I missed it cos this is a long thread and I got fed up reading it all :borg:

Anyway what about Suzie Perry, bet she'd show up :frog:

AK
11-Aug-2004, 14:05
Susie Perry got rid of her monster, as she now has a Honda....:(

Perhaps one of the MT will let peeps know what is in the present constitution for the DSC regarding the role of president - term of office & duties expected etc, as is rather pointless discussing changes that quite possibly may not able to be implemented:puzzled:

now, did I mention Zaus??? :devil:

C:)

[Edited on 11-8-2004 by CK and AK]

mike916
11-Aug-2004, 14:11
At last someone else with some style - Suzi Perry for President (bet the Monsters still in the garage):sing::sing:

lizzie
11-Aug-2004, 22:00
[i]Originally posted by tp-996

And you couldn't afford me :P

Maybe I could, maybe I couldn't; might depend on what I got for my money ;)

lizzie
11-Aug-2004, 22:04
Originally posted by Iconic944ss
Please go to the headmasters office - LOL

Frank

Ummmm.... obviously I'm new to this game, not being a member of any other club, but I was thinking of those little practical things, like wouldn't it help if the president was still alive :o ......

TP
11-Aug-2004, 22:06
Originally posted by STEVE M
And wouldn't it be something special if we had Paul Smart on his Imola bike at our track day. Oh yes yes yes.:bouncy:
Or the Sport Classic Paul Smart rep.


http://www.ducati.com/docs_eng/photogalleries/0074/images/f11.jpg

[Edited on 11-8-2004 by STEVE M]

I'd let him ride mine - IF it was delivered before Spring '06!!!!

lizzie
11-Aug-2004, 22:10
Originally posted by Redruth

Judging by the grin on your face on the home page, Lizzie, I felt sure you'd be voting for James, as I did. No logic behind that choice other than (a) rides a bike like a god and (b) plays piano similarly. Two things I aspire to and (at this stage in life) ain't likely to achieve.


Tempting Ruth, tempting. What you can't see from that picture is how red I went :D ; the view I got looking down was slightly different to how it looked face on. He is a sweetie (yes, I have been knocking back the Chardonnay, unusually for me :P). But it'll be a while before he achieves what Foggy has achieved....

kwikbitch
12-Aug-2004, 00:36
Didn't realize that they had to be British...
My a55 it is then!:devil::devil::devil:

Iconic944ss
12-Aug-2004, 00:51
Its a done deal then Lisa....

But who on earth could we trust with the task of obtaining a full-colour, life size picture of our "President" :lol:

(I can just hear Yeti's fingers searing the keyboard !!!)

Frank

kwikbitch
12-Aug-2004, 01:12
I think he was referring to it in "Leathers"...Well I hope he was!...:lol::P

Rocker
12-Aug-2004, 01:29
Originally posted by vman
FOGGY!!!!
Never made it to the GPs (They were crap then anyway) But was successful at the TT and made WSB what it is in the UK.

.

V-Man either you are not old enough to remember those GPS or your so old your memory is failing. For example Shhen V Roberts Silverstone 1979. Crap I don't think so. BTW who remembers the name of the back marker that cost Sheene the race? It was Foggerty (George)
Also guys like Doohan Schwantz Rainey Gardner Crap you must be joking.
Anyway if the races then were such crap and Foggerty was so much better than anyone else out there how come he was an also ran

Ozz
12-Aug-2004, 10:09
Ironically just found on Tobias website that his Replica is for sale!:

http://www.olivertobias.co.uk/features/ducati.html

duc749s
12-Aug-2004, 10:38
I like the look of Suzi Perry :frog:

Or Vicki Butler-Henderson Grrrr! Has she still got her duke?:roll:

Steve M
12-Aug-2004, 12:46
Originally posted by vman


And I know the old glory boys were mixing it up just as much then as they do now, just at a slower pace..:lol:



Not that much slower mate, the Assen lap record Kevin Schwantz set in the early nineties stud untill the circuit was changed a couple of years back.:)

fatduke11111
12-Aug-2004, 13:01
It would be nice to expect that whoever got the title, actually turned up....

....this honorary malarky...do they actually do anything??? I mean I know they dont receive any cash ...otherwise it kind of seems a bit pointless to me....might as well go for old Oliver Tobias.

Rocker
12-Aug-2004, 13:12
Baisically V-Man without my generation and those before mine you wouldn't be riding the very latest high tech bike that you are now.
I assume you are riding the latest 2004 model of whatever is you ride and that in a few weeks time you will be changing it for a new 2005 model because of course you wouldn't want to be seen on "An old bike" would you
as usual with you there is no discussion just anything you don't like is crap according to you:mad:

Rocker
12-Aug-2004, 17:57
It must be lovely to be like you and not give a toss for anyone else in this world or care who you upset.
I don't mind who disagrees with me and I'm always prepared to debate anything in a reasonible manner and listen to the point of view as others. You on the other hand can only sneer at people and treat them with contempt. At least this time I have not been subject to one of your tirades of foul mothed personal abuse (YET)
In future in think that I shall immediately withdraw from any thread that you post on as you make me so angry.
BTW What sort of bike do you ride?

888heaven
13-Aug-2004, 00:19
1st
Barry Sheene was famous for trying to do his impression of the bionic man,Ive read the book a very very brave man but was he so popular because the british had no other sporting icons during this time.
he was extremly good at his own PR.
Foggy spoke with his bike so what if he didnt go to GPs why chance the fact you could be in the wilderness for years not earning money,I think he used his brain not some dream.
so president
why not Susy Perry she rides a duc shes british and would attend if asked.

Rocker
13-Aug-2004, 00:37
Are you saying Sheene didn't speak with his bike? He won many of his races with inferior bikes not as Foggy did with the superior bike in a series that was run by Italians and designed for an Italian bike to win
Are you also saying that Foggerty was not a self publicist?

TopiToo
13-Aug-2004, 07:39
Hello

May vote is not on the list, so I will say it again "your man"

Shazaam

regards

TopiToo

AK
13-Aug-2004, 12:32
As I put in previous post & also as Vman says: Suzy Perry got rid of Monster last year, as took delivery of new Honda at beginning of last season... c'mon boys, do keep up!!!

C:P

psychlist
13-Aug-2004, 20:49
should be someone we can all look up to (easy for me, I'm 3 and a half inches shorter than a year ago :P ) and, hopefully, someone we could all stand a chance of meeting and talking to at a reasonable level, I've only ever spoken to Mr C.Fogarty once and although he gave a veneer of friendliness to us, his fans at the time, it seemed to be just a chore for him, there's no sincerity in them thar Foggy eyes!
Not like good ol Frankie, when you're talking to him you cannot help but be taken by his open enthusiasm for people, if we could get him to turn up at our "annual function" (anybody for dinner?) then I'd happily vote him in.
I wouldnt want someone to be OUR president, honorary or not, that didnt make an effort to see what the club was about.
Has Mr Fogarty ever been invited to one of our events? If not why not? If he has, and he hasnt been seen at one, then why keep him as president? If Mr P.Smart is keen to drop in and see what we're about then I'd vote for him, anyway, it's partly his fault you lot have got me to contend with cos I got into bikes when he and then Bazza did the biz!
You dont have to be heavily involved with the club Mr president, just take an interest, whoever you are!
:borg:

Henners
13-Aug-2004, 21:21
.. outside Ducati WSB team HQ, Brands, 1st August with his Multistrada


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/773773/VZQRK-Photo14_14.jpg

Henners
13-Aug-2004, 21:25
... I have the contact details of these ladies should a need be felt to include them in the vote


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/773773/LRGXJ-Photo13_13.jpg

Henners
13-Aug-2004, 21:27
... these ladies are Italian


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/773773/UYDGP-Photo16_16.jpg

Henners
13-Aug-2004, 21:35
Van - they're lovely girls so they are :frog::lol::lol::lol:

webbyc
14-Aug-2004, 08:11
Van - does that mean all us of the more advanced years have to lave and join the DOC?!!!!!

Anyway my vote goes to Paul Smart - he might actually take an interest. Foggy used to be my hero until I read his book and listened to some of the rubbish he's spouting out now.

Rocker
14-Aug-2004, 08:55
Paul Smart rides his Multistrada on a regular basis.
Some Zimmer Frame.
Which modern day Ducati does Foggy ride?

Henners
14-Aug-2004, 10:01
I think it's been said before - it depends whether we want a figurehead or a working President. Ducati is about tradition as well as innovation - we are still benefiting from the desmodromic valve operation designed decades ago as well as the racing heritage both Smart and Hailwood kicked into the public awareness in the 70s. Retaining close links with Ducati's history ain't out of context with being a modern club IMHO. If it wasn't for my duties as a Saga Rep I'd vote for me :saint:

888heaven
14-Aug-2004, 23:32
S Perry does'nt ride a DUC no more"""
Im sorry I missed this usefull bit of information,ill just give up work- riding and anything usefull and just keep an eye on whos riding what.

888heaven
15-Aug-2004, 10:21
Hi Vman
It looks like I need to start that diet thing You are what you eat""""""" I'll think I'll start with the zinc to stop me falling asleep on the job!!!!!!!!!!!!! PUMPKIN SEEDS I BELIEVE????

888heaven
15-Aug-2004, 10:46
Surely it would be easier to gather a complete list /vote from payed-up members then contact all of them and ask if they would be interested in the position and list what we would like them to do for the club.
After dinner talks etc if they cant give that sort of time to the club then put them on a figurehead list only.
then either choose a hands on presy or a picture of one.
Just a thought has anyone actually formally invited Foggy to anything,if not you cant blame him can you.
personely I would contact Foggy first and give him a chance to attend something or actually see if hes that bothered at least youll get a straight anwser from him i suspect.
I never met him myself or Chili but the previous owner of my T8 managed to drag him away from signing his book to sign the bike outside the shop and he didnt buy the book""
Chili had also signed an SL that i went to look at and the owner said he was one of the friendlyist racers he had ever met.

[Edited on 15-8-2004 by 888heaven]

Ozz
15-Aug-2004, 20:33
Frankie would probably be very willing to be a figurehead. He already is the patron for the Adopt a Racer scheme.