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desmojen
15-Aug-2004, 21:16
Hello everybody!

I'm new here :sing:

Road Runner
15-Aug-2004, 21:17
Hello and welcome :bouncy::bouncy:

desmojen
15-Aug-2004, 21:33
Who's who in here then?
I already know weeksy, but then, who doesn't! :D

TP
15-Aug-2004, 21:37
Welcome, today mine's a G and T.

Enjoy the club and the many benefits. Stay a long time :D

Cheers,

TP

psychlist
15-Aug-2004, 21:59
Originally posted by desmojen
I already know weeksy, but then, who doesn't! :D

Dont worry Jen, we wont hold that against you ;) Welcome to the nuthouse!

desmojen
15-Aug-2004, 22:06
Is anyone here good at racing who can teach me? :burn:

psychlist
15-Aug-2004, 22:39
Try WJB for starters

desmojen
15-Aug-2004, 22:48
WJB?
Remember, I is neeeew! :frog:
The frog has no significance other than it is silly!

psychlist
15-Aug-2004, 22:56
Join the club and come along to rockingham track day on 10th Sept. get to know everyone and our own resident racers. cant find it at the mo but there's a thread about the "DSC Racers" challenge event coming up soon!

desmojen
15-Aug-2004, 23:01
I will be just coming off a night shift on the 10th :(
I'll check out the thread tho!

Triple Nine
15-Aug-2004, 23:05
Welcome.

What is you location?

desmojen
15-Aug-2004, 23:07
I live in Lyneham, Wilts

desmojen
15-Aug-2004, 23:08
I can't find the racers challenge thread either. Weeksy'll know where it is!

Triple Nine
15-Aug-2004, 23:14
Originally posted by desmojen
I live in Lyneham, Wilts

Come to the DSC Mega Meet at Popham on the 30th http://217.199.188.40/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=6936 and you will get to meet loads of club members.
Look forward to meeting you.

Cheers, Roy

desmojen
15-Aug-2004, 23:38
Do you have to be an actual member to go?
How much is it?
Will there be any riding, or is it a show?

Felix
16-Aug-2004, 00:32
Ah, another stranded DP board member I take it. With regards to the racing lark, start here:

http://217.199.188.40/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=10493
http://217.199.188.40/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=10607
http://217.199.188.40/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=11013

Welcome aboard!

desmojen
16-Aug-2004, 11:14
Hello Felix, you blew my cover! Yep I'm an estranged DP member!
As for Donnington, we already pretty much decided not to do Donny, cos we've never ridden there before and the shift I'm on at work leaves us no chance to practise except the Ron Haslam race school, which then leaves me no money to race! Doh!
Plus my poor little 748 is gonna get murdered on that long straight!
I do plan on being there as a spectator though. :burn:

Pretty much the same as when I race then! ;)

[Edited on 16-8-2004 by desmojen]

[Edited on 16-8-2004 by desmojen]

Felix
16-Aug-2004, 12:21
But remember if you join the DSC, you'll get your entry fees for Donny paid for! There is a track day on Friday before the race, which I am planning on doing. Go on, you know it makes sense!

stumpy1
16-Aug-2004, 12:40
Originally posted by desmojen
Hello Felix, you blew my cover! Yep I'm an estranged DP member!
As for Donnington, we already pretty much decided not to do Donny, cos we've never ridden there before and the shift I'm on at work leaves us no chance to practise except the Ron Haslam race school, which then leaves me no money to race! Doh!
Plus my poor little 748 is gonna get murdered on that long straight!
I do plan on being there as a spectator though. :burn:

Pretty much the same as when I race then! ;)

[Edited on 16-8-2004 by desmojen]

[Edited on 16-8-2004 by desmojen]

Jen you have to do Donny its a great track,surely one of you two.
have got a quiet exhaust you can put on one of your bikes...i'm going there on my road bike on 6th september...
for a trackday...why dont you just do that,then get a instructor on a trackday to show you the track.......Donny is the best track out there,you really will be gutted if you dont do that race......

by the way i'm ian1 on Dpc...........

desmojen
16-Aug-2004, 13:01
Ian from greedy's??
Hiya mate!
How come you get your entry paid for then? And all of that won't stop my tiny twin getting mugged on the straight will it!
I'll have to chat with Lee, see what we reckon

stumpy1
16-Aug-2004, 13:28
Originally posted by desmojen
Ian from greedy's??
Hiya mate!
How come you get your entry paid for then? And all of that won't stop my tiny twin getting mugged on the straight will it!
I'll have to chat with Lee, see what we reckon

Yep its me.........i've done donny three times now, and it is a easy track to learn....if i had to chose one race out of the whole season this would be the one.......i'm going to do a trackday there on the 6th september.
just to see what i'm like after my big off......then i might do one there on the 20th...the only down side is i cant take my race bike,i cant get any time off work when they are doing noise day.....i would do the race day.
but do two practise in the morning,they will give you them if you've never been to the track before....

Lily
16-Aug-2004, 13:53
Hello Jen

I guess you are the lady that I came and said hello to at Mallory earlier in the year, we had a bit of a chat about 748r as i was interested in your clutch slave. Seeing you out there inspired me into wanting to give racing a go.

Have been brought back down to earth since then and told that i am not good enough and that I am too 'giddy' on the bike to race, so it looks like i will be sticking to spectating :)

Hope the racing is going well and good luck for the rest of the year :)

desmojen
16-Aug-2004, 14:02
Well, hello again!
Hey, I'm not good enough to race either, who's telling you you're not?
The thing is, it's a massive buzz, and the guys are fantastic, I've made loads of new friends.
It's gradually getting better, I have managed to not come last in the last few races, but if I do Donnington I expect I'll be a pretty solid last again!
Come say hello if you're there, and give your doubters a slap as well!! :P

desmojen
16-Aug-2004, 14:06
Ian, I'll see what I can do, I can't do the trackday just before as I don't have a road exhaust to put on my bike....or a roadbike to use instead.
Plus, if I do another trackday before then I'm gonna need new tyres, money money money,
where does it end eh? :rolleye:

desmojen
16-Aug-2004, 15:18
Look at you all suzuki lovin!!
Nice logo mate ;)
Had to wander over, despite registering, the dp site won't let me on, and it's crap now anyway:puzzled:

desmojen
16-Aug-2004, 15:24
Ok, I've got the forms printed off, I'll get it sent out.
What do you know about this race fee thing?

desmojen
16-Aug-2004, 15:41
Cool, I'll sort it, thanks dude!
You at Mallory this weekend? Watching that is!

desmojen
16-Aug-2004, 15:48
Ok, see you there! If I can skive off work that is!!

desmojen
16-Aug-2004, 19:57
So, Felix, if you could let me know who to contact and how to go about it, I can get wheels in motion.
I got my membership application posted on the way in to work tonight so thats in hand.
Also, whats the gen on the friday practice day, who's running it, how much, and crucially, is it a noisy day?
The other option is the Ron Haslam school on the 29th of september, at least I wouldn't need another tyre if I did that!

Felix
16-Aug-2004, 20:03
Jen, simple really. As DSC member you'll get your race fees refunded. Simply send in the regs to DP as usual and on the day, you'll get the refund.

See ya on the grid!

The trackday on Friday is with Track Attack and yes it's a noisy day. Have a look here: http://www.uktrackdays.co.uk/

desmojen
16-Aug-2004, 20:32
Wicked! Thanks mate, see you there :devil:

skidlids
16-Aug-2004, 23:49
I thought to qualify for the race fund entry at Donington you had to be a paid up member on a certain date.

Felix
17-Aug-2004, 00:00
Hmmm, maybe you're right. Wonder it still holds http://217.199.188.40/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=10651#pid89851

David Cook will clarify surely.

desmojen
17-Aug-2004, 00:28
i've sent a u2u to David Cook but according to the thread you linked to, I do not qualify for help. :(

skidlids
17-Aug-2004, 00:49
After voting for the race fund at the AGM and then putting a lot of ideas forward to do with it, I can't say its turning out as I expected. The idea was to have a comittee which I understood I was part of but I have never been consulted about it once my ideas had gone in.
Can somebody on the management team actually tell me how much was set aside for the fund and how it was intended to be used.

Felix
17-Aug-2004, 09:33
Fully agree, weeksy.

David Cook
17-Aug-2004, 09:52
eObviously, the reason that the sponsorship arrangements were designed only to apply to Members before the announcement i.e. as at 1st July 2004, was to stop anyone taking advantage of the Club.

It would be easy to join for the £20+£5 fees and get £100+ straight back!

I am not saying for a minute that this is the case here but I have no way of judging that for myself.

Steve's point about Jen joining before she knew about potential sponsorship is certainly valid and I shall be writing to all Henners' original Academy contributors for their opinion before we decide.

Oh and welcome aboard desmojen (do you know what you're getting into girl?) :devil:

skidlids
17-Aug-2004, 10:11
Originally posted by weeksy
i would say it would be harsh

I don't think it is for you or I to say what is and isn't harsh on this matter, I was at the AGM for the vote and remember some of the concerns. It is for Management to decide taking into account the views of the club membership and the rules for the fun that were decided upon.

skidlids
17-Aug-2004, 11:33
Should I send out invites to this lot some of which are mates that race Ducatis others are guys I have met through racing, some who already know about it as they visit the board.

Phil Bevan
Ian Hutchinson
Les Liney
Mark Baldock
Simon Knowlson
Dean Nicholls
Geoff Cain
Louigi
Tim Watts
Steve Hillary
Kenny Watmore

desmojen
17-Aug-2004, 11:41
Sorry to be causing a disturbance here fellas, I must admit I was surprised to think that I could join and get help just like that, for the same reasons that David has quoted.
I leave it in your capable hands.
It would certainly be nice to see some Ducatis up the sharp end in the race, we don't really see that too often with all those goddamn gixxers out there!
P.S. Thanks for the support Weeksy! :burn:

skidlids
17-Aug-2004, 12:19
if you want to see Ducati's running at the front of a club race come and watch or join in the New Era or North Glos SoT classes. Where you could well see either Ian Hutchinson (tuned 998S more details Ian if you read this), Les Liney (AJR preped 996SPS), Mark Baldock (CSC racing JHP preped 996RS or Dean Nicholls (AJR preped 998R) winning.
Castle Combe this Saturday will be a chance to maybe watch all of these in action. I will be there probably watching, but I am going to phone and see if I can get a entry for my 748SP track bike. So what if I finish last and will probably be lapped ny all those named above but it will be fun, providing I don't stall on the grid like last year all to the ammusement of the lads from the Hants Branch.

Felix
17-Aug-2004, 12:25
Hey, Kev, if you don't want to support the Donington event, that's fine, I guess. But, I get the sense that you're peeved somehow that it's happening at all. I put significant effort into organising this and would very much like to see it through. It's got absolutely nothing to do with getting my race fees paid for, by the way.

desmojen
17-Aug-2004, 12:31
I do plan on attending the new era meet at the weekend in order to meet up with Rick Ellis who is a pal of mine.
The problem is I am working a day shift all weekend so I can't be sure of coming until I know how busy work is or isn't!

skidlids
17-Aug-2004, 15:47
Wrong Felix not Peeved its happening, Would love to see the likes of yourself, WJB, Weeksy, Garry Smith, Gary Cunington, Paul Payne and maybe Chris Pullen and a couple of others putting on a show for a large number of the DSC membership, It would be a grand well spent.
From the start when asked to be on the race bursary committe I stated that I would not be taking advantage of it if I had a say in how we were spending the DSC funds.

My main concern at the moment is the knock on effect for next year, other members reactions especially if we loose money on TA3 and also the exclusion of supportive DSC members WJB and Weeksy from benefiting from the fund.

I applaud your efforts to sort something out but I think we should stick to the outline agreed by the voting members at the AGM that got the £1000 allocated in the first place.

Still its of no consequence to me as less than a £1 of it is my money and its not going to effect how I go about my racing especially as I have spent over 4 times the Amount of the Bursay in tha last few years in sponsoring somebody.

Felix
17-Aug-2004, 15:59
Kev, two questions: What is your concern about next year? What do mean by knock-on effect? Second, how is this not consistent with the outline?

skidlids
17-Aug-2004, 16:17
Felix lets start with question 2, The AGM voted for a Bursary to be set aside to assist existing DSC members either with their racing or to help them start racing and although the topic was debated it was decided it shouldn't just include those riding a Ducati although some sort of preference may be given to such a rider over a non Ducati rider.
This way the likes of the WJB/Monty team would also benifit, It would also stop people joining the club just to get there hands on some of the fund.

At that point in time it hadn't been decided how best to use the £1000, I know some people wanted tyres, others entries and so on.
So when the membership present voted I wonder who they had in mind to recieve the funds, My list of names was given to Sally Ann on the day and res you were on it.

As this original Bursary is intended as a toe in the water then it will no doubt again be on the Agenda at the next AGM. There could be 3 proposals
1, increase the size of the Bursary
2, keep it the same
3, decrease it
this will be decided by the members on how well they think the funds have been used this year, if you can't see a knock on effect I'm supprised.

Steve M
17-Aug-2004, 16:32
Hi Jen - Welcome to the board.:burn:

[Edited on 17-8-2004 by STEVE M]

Felix
17-Aug-2004, 16:49
You know, Kev, in my mind it comes down to initiative. As you, I was part of the committee. However, aside from an initial email, nothing else happened! And, the season is pretty much over now.

As for next year, no, sorry, I can't see the knock-on effect. As you say the next AGM will determine the future.

Felix
17-Aug-2004, 16:56
I don't follow your logic at all, Weeksy. How can you predict outcome? Just because you've switched to Suzuki, doesn't mean there'll be less in attendance. :lol:

Felix
17-Aug-2004, 17:04
Tell you what, Weeksy, perfect opportunity for you to get planning for next year.

bradders
17-Aug-2004, 18:02
Hi desmojen, hope you enjoy it here;)

skidlids
17-Aug-2004, 19:11
Steve as I see it Felixs plan is a sound one especially as its very similar to the one I propossed back in march and that DC says he never heard about

This is what I sent in on the 4th of March this year for consideration.

"I have just entered the DSC as sponsors on my New Era race entry for Pembrey and given the address as care of you. This is just to see how it works. I have talked to the club and they will happily supply a couple of free tickets to go with the normal pit crew tickets, the idea would to be to give these extra tickets to members that wanted to attend the race meeting entered.
I see a good use of the Burseary as paying for a group of DSC racers to enter the Clubmans Festival at Donington Park on May 31st, and also to pay for them to have 2 adjacent garages, which New Era are happy to try and arrange. if the 5 riders I have previously mentioned took part and each entry had their sponsor as DSC then we could expect at least 10 free tickets and probably persuade New Era to give us a couple more, we could also hang a DSC banner above the garages and turn it in to a sort of Mega meet, we could even have a small prize for the DSC racer that impresses most on the day, voted for by thos at the circuit."

What I would rather see on the grids and as time is running out the Grids will be at Donington on Oct 3rd is not a mass of Ducatis ridden by Sudo members but real members riding their race bikes what ever they may be, you and WJB included

And in a even earlier U2U to the Committee I ruled myself out from receiving the funds if I was having a say in how they were to be spent.

Kev

Henners
18-Aug-2004, 03:37
I've been watching emails fly about all day on this subject and now I will have my say as it is being implied that I did not pass on information to the MT of this club when consulting the Racing Academy committee on a possible bursary following the last AGM.

The background:

A request was made in February to members of the club to offer their opinion on how a bursary could be utilised to support racing members of the DSC. 6 members offered to be involved and I emailed each a questionnaire for completion which 5 duly returned. From that I pulled together a broad proposal for consideration by the MT and on which no action was taken until the last management meeting on 17th July.

It was not the purpose of that proposal to go into the level of detail that Kevin provided, merely to offer opinion on how money from club funds could be utilised for the benefit of racing members. The recommendation was to find a way to support more than one individual with the payment of either fees or contribution towards general costs like tyres. That is now happening.

Furthermore, no one was asked to join the committee, Kevin and others put their names forward and I was delighted that they chose to get involved. I resent the inference that I withheld information from the MT and as no one from the MT has come forward to refute that remark then I have had to do so myself.

desmojen
18-Aug-2004, 11:46
Oh dear, this is all getting a bit heated isn't it! :(

I'm sorry to be the source of all this pontification. I will deffo be at Donnington, but whether I can race or not I don't know.

Sorry again

TP
18-Aug-2004, 12:34
It's not your fault Jen, I hope you still feel welcome on the forum and in the club because you definitely are.

I'll be looking forward to meeting you at Donny although I won't be racing (this time). I'm looking into it for next year so I'm planning on attending a few Bemsee events before the end of the year to look at some different classes and get a 'feel' for it. Thanks for the suggestion to Monty and Dibble. Maybe I'll see you around ...

:D