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Lets start the debate...

Wavey Discs Vs' Brembo Full Floaters (cast iron, ala' SPS)

Any views from people that have used both?

[Edited on 26-10-2004 by chris_of_1979]

Well...I haven't tried wavey's but in last weeks MCN they did some very unscientific tests and compared them to standard discs...No real improvement in braking performance (stopping distance etc), apart from the are less likely to fade under hard braking.

I have switched from standard brembo discs to full floaters (cast iron) that are fitted on the SP3, and the difference is noticeable.

These combined with the Brembo Radial m/c, braided hoses and P4 calipers = eye popping stopping:o

I've already got the full cast iron floating brembo's on my SPS as standard fitment - and was basically just thinking if it would be worth replacing them.

if the disc's you are looking at are cheaper than the full floating cast iron jobs, then ask yourself why.
I have the full floaters and wouldn't think of changing unless I wore them out

Worth changing from the full floating cast iron jobbies...I wouldn't have thought so.

I've used stock discs, floaters, cast AP discs and now wavy's...

Admittedly in varying circumstances, standard discs were the worst of the lot, floaters were/are good, seemed to help turn the bike more also, brake while turning was easier, the cast AP's were another level again, wavy's just as good as the AP's, you get some vibration through the level if feathering them, but pull them hard and they launch you over the bars, now coupled with the brembo radial m/cylinder, quite shocking.... just need stronger arms

Waveys are fantastic and look the nuts too!!!

Was thinking of the change - and considering the fact that it sounds like they'll out-perform the floaters, I'm well tempted.

Seen people flogging thier floaters on eBay for £200, so in theory it'd only cost me an extra £50 to get the wavey's (plus a new set of pads)

Like i said in the past though, if waveys are so good how come non of the WSB or BSB or Moto GP teams use them?

Actually when in the pits at Brands WSB most of the Kawasaki wheels were running waveys

So from the opinions of those that HAVE used wavey's (JPM & Rattler) - it's a worth-while change to make?

I reckon so.

I had them on my SPS and R and I reckon they are an improvement over the standard SPS/996R disks.

However, I changed the disks at the same time as fitting a race brembo m/cyl, twin braided hoses and Bendix pads on both the R and SPS, so I couldn't single those out as specifically being better.

As an idea of costs, I sold mine recently on ebay for £190. I've seen them go for £180 - £260 s/h.

Tim

I'd go with Tim on this, the 998 setup is good with the 4pots etc, very on/off action, whereas the 996 with standard m/c and AP's was progressive as I prefer. Putting the wavy's on the 998 improved things just felt a tad more progressive, but when pulled harshly really stopped quickly, but the brembo m/c increased the whole feel again.

I doubt the wavy's off the 998 will fit the 999R with radials etc, anyone know? So at some point mine will be up for sale if you can wait a good few months

Looks like they will John. The Galfer catalogue is listing the same kit part no. for the 998S/R as the 999S/R.
You just need to check the mounting pcd and the offset.

btw, the Galfer waveys are pretty good kit. They have the patent on the original design apparently and i've pretty good feedback on the ones I've sold. Come as a complete kit. 2x discs and matching pads.

Wavey pads!!! I need some of those!!!:lol::lol::lol:

Mine are the braking ones, that's all I can remember... are they the same?

Wavy pads.... Hmmmm?

Discs for 749/999 will not fit 748/916/996/998.

749/999 have 5 disc mounting bolts 748/916 etc have 6.

I'd agree with JPM and rattler.

I have Braking Waveys on my 748R and love them, especially on the track, which is where I guess they were designed for (i.e. competition use ala motard and motocross).

I think waveys suck:D but then again I DON'T HAVE ANY:devil:

I think the main difference between the two is more that the waveys will resist fade better due to cooling properties. Its been said that because waveys have a constant leading edge, this gives enables the pads to grab the disc better. It is also said that they have a higher pad wear, but again we need peeps that use them brakes properly to be able to give a true judgment:P

i prefer the waveys and kwaks are coming standard with them fitted now.

Mr Weeksy - you da' man!!!

I read a test somewhere that showed very little difference between wavies and standard in one off braking performance. However apart from the obvious better fade resistance, the wavies had a fairly big improvement in flickability. Can't remember the exact numbers but the rate of change of angle went from something like 130° per second to 170°.

The reason for the improvement was put down to the lower sprung weight.