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Redruth 31-Jan-2005 23:15

Everybody loves a knowall ...
 
The challenge for the 28 days of February... should you choose to accept it, is to pose tricky questions to our self-appointed panelists. That includes as a matter of right, NBS, Skidlids, Shazaam, Nelly and anyone that generally takes the trouble to post replies to peoples questions on the board.

They can be mechanical, historical, geographical ... they have to be clean, healthy, suitable for Ducatisti consumption.

The winner will be the expert that manages to post the most convincing (may not be correct, but must be convincing) replies.

The prize? The title of DUCATINERD? I'll work on the prize angle. The clock's ticking as of NOW!

Well, midnight but I'm not staying up that late
:lol:

antonye 31-Jan-2005 23:17

So what's the first question then?

Redruth 31-Jan-2005 23:19

Antonye. Re-read the post. Post a Question for the panel, not a question about a question ...

It's a struggle having Essex boys in our midst :frog::devil::frog:

antonye 31-Jan-2005 23:20

So what is the first question then? :frog:

NBs996 31-Jan-2005 23:22

come on antony old chap, keep with the plot!

I know, you're still recovering from the excitement of you're nice little snipe on ebay earlier but that's not really gonna cut it with ruth!

kwikbitch 31-Jan-2005 23:23

How can we teach Redruth to appreciate and grasp the understanding of how a desmo, either two valve or four valve works...AND get her to love a naked Ducati????:D;)

Redruth 31-Jan-2005 23:24

As an aside, I would like to point out that I bought 3 litres of wine in a wine box today. The theory was (according to my abstemious daughter) that I would not be tempted to drink a whole bottle, once opened, because psychologically I could stop after a couple of glasses.

It's not working ... Just topped up my glass for the 5th time. And I have to work tomorrow.

Eeeekkkk
:devil::D

Rattler 31-Jan-2005 23:24

Why is there only one monopolies and mergers commission?

electricsheep 31-Jan-2005 23:25

Why did the chicken cross the road ?

NBs996 31-Jan-2005 23:26

Quote:

Originally posted by kwikbitch
...AND get her to love a naked Ducati????:D;)

careful kb, after 5 glasses she could get the wrong idea!

Pleeeeeeeeezzzzz can i ask the first question ruthie???

Redruth 31-Jan-2005 23:26

Quote:

Originally posted by kwikbitch
How can we teach Redruth to appreciate and grasp the understanding of how a desmo, either two valve or four valve works...AND get her to love a naked Ducati????:D;)

You can't. Bl00dy good question though, Lisa.

I'm completely blonde when it comes to engines - albeit I'm not blonde. But I should have been :lol::lol::lol:

I don't think I'd have had more fun though :sing::frog:

PS No offence to blondes who, in my experience, are fairly bright, generally, but not always. :bouncy::bouncy:

antonye 31-Jan-2005 23:27

I think you all missed the point of my first question :lol:

Redruth 31-Jan-2005 23:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Rattler
Why is there only one monopolies and mergers commission?

Good question but not really Ducaticentric, is it, Lord Rattler?

Please direct your questions to the house - the club....

(in other words, no bl00dy idea, it just is, ok?) :frog:

madmav 31-Jan-2005 23:31

Why do 996 bips seem to develop a stumble/missfire,when getting back on the gas after they have been cruising on low revs /high gears for a while????????

Redruth 31-Jan-2005 23:33

Quote:

Originally posted by antonye
I think you all missed the point of my first question :lol:


Essex goes subtle :o

Not an option, really, is it Antonye :puzzled::devil::frog::lol:

antonye 31-Jan-2005 23:34

I'm not from Essex though :P

Redruth 31-Jan-2005 23:35

Quote:

Originally posted by madmav
Why do 996 bips seem to develop a stumble/missfire,when getting back on the gas after they have been cruising on low revs /high gears for a while????????

This is more like it. Thanks Mav. Getting in the spirit .... :D

Actually, my 996 bip doesn't. So the question could be considere a bit suspect/biased. Let's see what anwers crop up.

Waiting ....

NBs996 31-Jan-2005 23:40

Well mav's question is easy, but obviously the quiz don't start 'til tomorrow so I can't offer my answer yet...

Redruth 31-Jan-2005 23:41

Quote:

Originally posted by antonye
I'm not from Essex though :P

:lol::lol::lol:

Everyone from Essex says that. I used to say it myself. Lived there (loughton) for 11 years. Never admitted it, mind you. Hertfordshire born and bred, me.

madmav 31-Jan-2005 23:46

Quote:

Originally posted by Redruth
Quote:

Originally posted by madmav
Why do 996 bips seem to develop a stumble/missfire,when getting back on the gas after they have been cruising on low revs /high gears for a while????????

This is more like it. Thanks Mav. Getting in the spirit .... :D

Actually, my 996 bip doesn't. So the question could be considere a bit suspect/biased. Let's see what anwers crop up.
ok ruth to explain !

when they run with open pipes and sponge filter, chip etc etc

what happens , and i know 3 or 4 bikes that do it!
if you ride it hard "no problem"

but if you cruise and then get on the gas in a high gear they seem to splutter b4 they get up and go!

as if they have bogged down and may have flooded a bit!

and then they clear!

maybe on the track it's not noticed but on the road i know of several people who have noticed the same thing!


mav
Waiting ....
;)

Redruth 31-Jan-2005 23:46

Quote:

Originally posted by NBs996
Well mav's question is easy, but obviously the quiz don't start 'til tomorrow so I can't offer my answer yet...

Give us a little insight to your answer, Nickie.

I'm thinking there could be some REALLY obscure and VERY useful answers come out of this. We're rifling through the minds of real experts here. Looking for genius. Admittedly, in some pretty unlikely quarters but I bet there'll be dozens of incredibly useful facts that people expose given half a chance.

I've been completely amazed at how much people know since I joined this club and I'm just trying to work the possibly amusing, possibly trivial, forum to showcase that knowledge.

So, Nick, get serious and be ready to answer some tricky ones ;)

ericthered40 31-Jan-2005 23:48

Quote:

Originally posted by madmav
Why do 996 bips seem to develop a stumble/missfire,when getting back on the gas after they have been cruising on low revs /high gears for a while????????

Every singer clears their throat before hitting a high note
:rodent:

Redruth 31-Jan-2005 23:53

Quote:

Originally posted by ericthered40
Quote:

Originally posted by madmav
Why do 996 bips seem to develop a stumble/missfire,when getting back on the gas after they have been cruising on low revs /high gears for a while????????

Every singer clears their throat before hitting a high note
:rodent:

Nil points for purely emotional, not backed up with any concrete facts, answers, Blacky.

:D

NBs996 31-Jan-2005 23:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Redruth

Give us a little insight to your answer, Nickie.

I'm thinking there could be some REALLY obscure and VERY useful answers come out of this. We're rifling through the minds of real experts here. Looking for genius. Admittedly, in some pretty unlikely quarters but I bet there'll be dozens of incredibly useful facts that people expose given half a chance.

I've been completely amazed at how much people know since I joined this club and I'm just trying to work the possibly amusing, possibly trivial, forum to showcase that knowledge.

So, Nick, get serious and be ready to answer some tricky ones ;)

Well, if you want to do this properly, it's quite a technical answer. Not very easy to understand after 8 glasses of red, so I think a mere 'insight' would only cause you to crack open that last bottle.

So you'll have to wait 'til day 1 for a proper explanation of this phenomenon!

Redruth 31-Jan-2005 23:58

Did I mention I'm not a patient woman, Nick?

And I haven't actually had 8 glasses ... yet.

This was a v. bad idea. "Wine box" ... what kind of marketing genius thought that up then :lol::lol:

Redruth 01-Feb-2005 00:03

And Nick, Skidlids, Shazaam, Nelly et al. Serious answers essential to the ethics of this 'game'.

Hopt to get some Newbies posting. They'll be totally impressed by the awesome knowledge of people on this site.

I shall be operating the 'bump' strategy to keep it in 'today's posts' if it gets a bit stale.

And I am still considering the prize ...

It may have to be something to do with Desmo Due but we'll see.

I'm prepared to put some dosh up for it ... maybe a prepaid trackday, or a 5 year subscription to DSC ...

In the regious of £100 anyway so PAY ATTENTION ... I may be skint now but I used to be rich and I haven't quite got used to the new rules yet :P:lol::lol:

NBs996 01-Feb-2005 00:09

Then I think you need to start a daily thread for each question ruth.

And I know I have the answer to to this one so I look forward to my first point tomorrow :D

madmav 01-Feb-2005 00:16

[quote]Originally posted by Redruth
And Nick, Skidlids, Shazaam, Nelly et al. Serious answers essential to the ethics of this 'game'.



And I am still considering the prize ...

It may have to be something to do with Desmo Due but we'll see.

I'm prepared to put some dosh up for it ... maybe a prepaid trackday, or a 5 year subscription to DSC ...


Ruth i dont think the prize should be for DEsmo due!!

no offence to guy/gals doing it!


I personally think the prize has already been won anyway;)

without taking anything away from nelly nbs skids etc etc !

that guy shazzam, who puts his all into his answers deserves a nice DSC plaque sending across the water, for his outstanding contribution;);)

just my opinion...........mav

Redruth 01-Feb-2005 00:25

[quote]Originally posted by madmav
Quote:

Originally posted by Redruth
And Nick, Skidlids, Shazaam, Nelly et al. Serious answers essential to the ethics of this 'game'.



And I am still considering the prize ...

It may have to be something to do with Desmo Due but we'll see.

I'm prepared to put some dosh up for it ... maybe a prepaid trackday, or a 5 year subscription to DSC ...


Ruth i dont think the prize should be for DEsmo due!!

no offence to guy/gals doing it!


I personally think the prize has already been won anyway;)

without taking anything away from nelly nbs skids etc etc !

that guy shazzam, who puts his all into his answers deserves a nice DSC plaque sending across the water, for his outstanding contribution;);)

just my opinion...........mav

If I'm donating the prize, I'll decide whether it's been won or not.

I agree, Mav. Shazaam puts HUGE content into his replies. They are almost too detailed. When he gets to grips with a reply there is no stone unturned.

However, I'm the self-appointed judge in this and I shall be 100% objective. In my opinion, at least. :lol:

madmav 01-Feb-2005 00:28

whoops slap the back of my legs !!!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol:

sorry:(

TP 01-Feb-2005 00:42

Oh dear, 16 minutes to go ...

madmav 01-Feb-2005 00:51

7 mins to go!

Redruth 01-Feb-2005 00:57

Are you still awake Nick?

I'm looking for inspring, heartfelt, technically accurate responses, here. I'm not admitting to any front runners at this stage. But I am judge and jury and there is nothing like healthy competition to bring out the best/worst in people. So Nicholas, When you are Ready, In Your Own Time.

5 minutes and counting ...:frog:

NBs996 01-Feb-2005 01:03

Hmmm... might wait a bit, and see what rubbish other people post.

Redruth 01-Feb-2005 01:08

Quote:

Originally posted by NBs996
Hmmm... might wait a bit, and see what rubbish other people post.

Being a tease is never attractive, Nick.

I was about to start a new thread with the scores on ... based on the fact that I would have awarded you 5 points for your top notch anticipated answer. 100 points wins. However, you have bug*ered that.

:flame::devil::frog:

Shazaam! 01-Feb-2005 01:52

Ok, OK, I'll play ...

All 996's came with dual injectors including the 1999 model. Prior to the 996, only the SP and SPS bikes have dual injectors. But those other bikes have the larger P8 computer which is capable of firing the injectors sequentially meaning the second injector only comes into play when RPMs go up.

The 996 is controlled by the smaller 1.6M computer which is incapable of firing the injectors sequentially. So the bike does not run well with both of them firing at the same time all the time. According to FIM, dual injectors are not needed unless you're making more than 120HP, and have developed a single injector chip for the 996.

Read more about it here:
http://www.moto-one.com.au/performance/996eproms2.html

This is a quote from FIM's site:

"We have two UltiMaps for the 996 Biposto '99/2000 model. There have been many problems with these models spitting on low throttle or cruise at low speeds. We have finally made a chip which cures the problem (type UM222), but requires that one injector be disconnected from each cylinder. This is because the 996 has two injectors hard-wired in the harness and we can't switch one off like we can with the 996SPS or early 888 computers. The benefit is that the single injector spits more cleanly at low durations than two injectors do ( because they have only half the time each) and idle and low throttle repsonse is heaps better. We remapped a 996 with this mod and the difference is incredible. We do sell a twin injector verison of the same chip (type UM221), but in most cases the UM222 works better, and is worth the effort."

ericthered40 01-Feb-2005 02:17

Roger from chelmsford has a pro v twins 996 with a full monty tune on 50mm termis we do like to tinker and were confused to find only Two injectors connected and the other Two taped up
runs nice and sweet

Redruth 01-Feb-2005 09:08

Oh good, glad you're playing Shazaam - this will take the pages into the double digits

:lol:

Later today (if I get time at work, if not, this evening) I shall be posting the following:-

The Prizes = I've come up with 5

The Judges - I don't think I'm necessarily capable of recognising the depths of nerdiness you lot can go to so I'll be needing some help. Initial thoughts, Lizzie and CK (who have access to huge nerdy resources in their other halves but may be biased if Mike and Alan are playing), Dickieducati cos I know he has no chance of winning plus one possible other, whom I shall have to check with so I'll have to get back to that one. KB I'd ask you but I think you might be in with a chance!
:roll::sing:

rockhopper 01-Feb-2005 09:24

I've got a question--how come the same two crews always get through to the final of the boat race?

AK 01-Feb-2005 09:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Redruth
Oh good, glad you're playing Shazaam - this will take the pages into the double digits

:lol:

Later today (if I get time at work, if not, this evening) I shall be posting the following:-

The Prizes = I've come up with 5

The Judges - I don't think I'm necessarily capable of recognising the depths of nerdiness you lot can go to so I'll be needing some help. Initial thoughts, Lizzie and CK (who have access to huge nerdy resources in their other halves but may be biased if Mike and Alan are playing), Dickieducati cos I know he has no chance of winning plus one possible other, whom I shall have to check with so I'll have to get back to that one. KB I'd ask you but I think you might be in with a chance!
:roll::sing:

:o moi??????

and AK doesnt get on the forum - cos I dont let him!!!!!:devil:

C:saint: happy to be referee with rolling pin!!!!:lol:


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