poor running with PC111 and termis
 

ok, am pretty sure what the problem is so in summary

Before
Termis with standard ecu, and injectors adjusted to suit, it went like a train

After PC111 (with map for 749 with Termis) fitted
starts without choke, terrible acceleration, poor fuel consumption

So it seems the injector adjustment to get the bike to run with the standard ecu has left it a bit rich.

Is there an easy way to adjust the injectors myself, or can it be done at a dealer with a lambda sensor, or do I have to go to a rolling road. If so who can you recommend in the south west london area.

Lastly, can I do it myself by adjusting the controls on the PC111?

cheers

Derek

Sounds like the map you have is for the Termi ECU not the standard one? You can adjust the PCIII yourself using the buttons on it.

I would book the bike in for a custom map.

Get it booked in at a dynojet authorised dyno centre and get a few hours dyno time to dial it in, you can just disconnect the PC111 for now and run it as such at least it'll be better

am really trying to avoid a few hours on the dyno from the point of view that my rear tyre is pretty new and dont want it squared off fro the tuning process. Will disconnect it for now. Will check the map

You could buy/get an old tyre from a fitting place and use that for the map?

good idea on the tyre!

just checked my map is for stock ecu, termis and DP filters

Each map is only as the good as the bike it was mapped on. If the map you've got is from a bike that wasn't set up well, and your bike is well set up, then it's going to be pants. Personally, I wouldn't bother with a PCIII unless you're going to get a custom map.

Get a cheap/free rear tyre from your local fitting place and get a custom map :)

749er have a word to Steve at Wraysbury Tyres. If you don't know who he is just tell him you're a DSC member and he'll look after you.

749er, I did exactly the same thing, had the Termi's fitted, thought it would run OK with the map from the Power Commander site (the same one you're using), and it left it running very lean, with fluffy throttle response to about 5k.

Had it dyno'd and set up by John at JHP and its sweet as...

So where is JHP? Cant find them on the web

Have had a quote from Cooperized in Feltham for about £100 to tune it up, thats about 3 hours.

Anyone used these guys?

JHP (John Hackett Performance) otherwise known as Ducati Coventry, as you guessed Coventry, although John's dyno is back at the lodge.

Tel:- 02476 335300

Try some of the other maps for 748R on the Power Comander site, you might find they suit your bike's set up

Hi Tony
He sure is, will charge me a nominal fee to swap over a part worn for the rolling road time then put my Diablo back on.

Anyone got any recommendatios for tuners in London/Surrey/Middlesex areas

cheers

Derek

I dont think the amount of time your bike need to spend on a dyno warrants all the wheel/tyre swapping.

Your probably talking 3-4 power runs. I would suggest that will do less harm than your trip to the pub.

3 or 4 power runs? It's more than that for a proper map with part throttle mapping etc. You're looking at 3 hours on the dyno, so I would get a part worn tyre :)

Your avving a laugh. Bog std749 with just a termi..........something a reputable dyno operator has done a million times..........3-4 runs max.

3 or 4 runs to do mapping at 5% throttle intervals? I think you're the one having a giraffe mate! Even if they've done a similar thing before, every bike is different. They may well have starting point, but it will need tweaking.

:lol::lol::lol:

Utter *rap. If you want to spend 3 hours on a dyno repeating what hes done so often then you pay the money thats your option. :lol:

Have you had your bike done then? Ask them that have had it dynoed. Ask them what happened. Ask the result.

By all means if you have an 1100cc big cammed ported big valved singing and dancing hybrid, go for it.

Mickey mouse std 749 999? that all thats needed to get it right.

Fair enough - just going by what I'd heard/read...

Between me and you, i recon i got Dickies fuelling profile when i had my 999 set up!:o

Our bhp and torque profiles are so similar its ironic.........

yeah but i can use my power! ;)

God your good!..............;) Although power is nothing without control! You do have control dont you...........?

[Edited on 4-8-2005 by andyb]

i wish!

lets see after tomorrow when i've done donington. having said that its alot easier to cotrol the monster with less than 60 bhp!