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Old 01-Feb-2005, 14:07   #4
Lily Lily is offline
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I have two sets, one the genuine article and one cheap copy.

the cheapo ones are fine for the easy to get your hand behind places, but on belly pan etc I have to use the good ones as they catch much better.

Alternative is the pliers
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