Thanks for all the support guys it is really appreciatted. I have a few options in the fire....time is the issue as well as the funds. my first option is not so bad found a bottom end ( unsure to the quality due to the top end being destroyed ) thanks to Chrisp for the heads up...will try this option first option 2 ..complete engine and alternator from ooop north " the expensive option " lol 450 quid jobbie.............( engine plus alternator ) i have contacted almost everyone that has a 600 engine and the best price i have been offered is 350 quid and the worst 450 quid...the ebay 600 engine listed is 400+...........never realised the market for 600 ducati engines was so strong...................... will just have to wait and see what happens next...................... cheers guys. Phil |