Luckily Tony I don't support the hardware, or even the OS to a degree, I just have to support the apps running on them, which as you say if the raid config decides it's going south for the winter not only kills the server but also my app, so after the hardware/OS support sit on it for a few hours when all hell is raining down on me, it falls back to us to do the whole thing. But like you say, these days is down to cost, luckily for me/us it appears HP are now the standard server suppliers, or possibly IBM, changes daily I'd have Amstrad or Sinclair before Dell |