Jim-bob, You do realise that I'm now sitting here biting my knuckles with the frustration of knowing that there is a very tidy SP4 for sale just around the corner from where I live (it was you at Chichely last year wasn't it?), that I'm fast coming to the conclusion that I would rather have an SP4 or 5 than any other Ducati but that I've only got £8.00 to spare, never mind £8,000