[philthy]

Not at all..

I don't agree with what bikemad was saying but these were merely my observations on his and your points, ...and I still stand by my comments on many bikers.....

As for my comments on uninsured drivers, my son is coming up to 17, wants to buy a car and has been quoted in excess of £1000 to insure one.

We will make sure that he doesn't drive without insurance, but I can't understand why the courts don't fine people more appropriately. I've never seen anyone reported in our local papers being fined anywhere near the above figure for failing to have insurance.