i am sorry, gaz and TP, if i p*ssed on your chips. i dont mean to wind you up, even if that's what i end up doing. I know i can sound like a right tw*t sometimes. I guess we both feel very strongly about this. one of the things i hate the most is being manipulated and lied to. This has happened more than once (including the first gulf round, i was in favour of going in). since then, i guess i have become a little too analytical/cynical/bitter for my own good. and reading a little more about the situation than what you get on sky news just enfuriates me. I appreciate what you are saying, about helping the people on the field. but do you feel that the quality of life in Irak is better now than it was 13 years ago ? I work with a well qualified iraki dicident who left home when it started stinking, in 90. he got back last year, but didnt stay very long, and soon returned to the UK. unfortunately, all the good that you are trying to achieve and the help that your are giving people is needed due to the destructive actions from another soldier/platton/army and 10 years of sanctions.. dont get me started on the food for oil program. 13 years on, irak is in a worse state than ever. a sadistic ruler was removed, to be replaced by a corrupt government, mob rule, and a massive debt. That's now.. lets wait a couple of years until another sadistic ruler steps in, and its back to square one. you cant bomb democracy into a nation. historically, it has NEVER worked. whatever you feel you are achieving on the field, i am not sure it translate very well on a global scale. mind you.. private US companies are having a good time sharing the reconstruction contracts. feel free to try and convince me otherwise. you are probably the first person i talked to directly who has seen both conflicts. |