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Originally posted by Paul James Quote: Originally posted by stef i disagree. if you want to get all statistical, checkout the US: relax gun laws, 4 times the population (roughly) but 300 times the number of people killed by firearms (28 000 people !!!), fair enough, half of them were suicides... still, scary numbers. http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm http://www.crimeinfo.org.uk/servlet/...ory=factsheets only 97 people were shot dead in the uk in one year. so a small number of dead people is a big purcentage increase. this increase is mainly due to other crimes increasing, related to firearms, i.e: gang, drugs etc..not really your average joe type of thing. and i dont know how many of those were suicides...it could well be that their was 2 times less hand guns lying around, and 2 time less homicides, but 4 times more people got depressed and decided to shoot themselves..stats are a funny thing. especially in the hand of professional spinners ! "it doesnt work and never will" it worked in nz: http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/gunaus.htm but this is a completely different topic...seriously, we live in a crowded place, with tensions between comunities..do you really believe that allowing people to keep firearms is a good idea ? I have seen places in the states where you just walk into a superstore, JJB type of thing, and get out with some serious piece... pretty handy for a road rage situation ! | I've kept and responsibly used guns for over 35 years and I get really fed up of listening to all the crap about more and more restrictions being put on the general public in a vain attempt to control what is already criminal activity. All gun crime is illegal at the risk of stating the bleedin obvious, the penalties should be much harsher and responsible people should be allowed to get on with their lives without petty legislation at every turn. Sorry UP if its off topic but debates like this do tend to wander a bit at times. |
Ahh, but they know you couldnt hit a toffee from 1/2 a yard Paul!

