best laugh I've had all day, Van you do realise that Terbelanche actually did most of the work on the 916 don't you? and if you read any of Ducati's history you'll see that Tamborini did take most of the credit, and how could say the Supermono is ugly... you didn't but Terberlanche did design that too or did you forget that LOL!! And if you recall Ducati started quoting dry weight and HP at the crank not the wheel from 05 onwards to be in line with the Japs