cheers
all sorted once i could stay on internet for long enough to get a.v update was able to i.d virus as sasser.
well that was the one causing the shutdon, there were 3 others on there an all
then onto norton for a removal tool
then windows update page for security updates, all in all about 10 mins work.
IF I HAD A BROADBAND CONNECTION
so have sat here all evening playing solitare while puter downloaded about 2 years worth of updates.
fun or what.
thanks folks
