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Old 20-Dec-2004, 22:31
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ON LINE SCAMMERS???

I'm selling my Porsche with an on-line company and the only replies I've had all seem dodgy! The latest one has sent me this reply (to my reply of his initial contact, asking him for his phone number and address and saying I would call him about the car) and I seem to remember some scam discussed previously taking this format.

Any ideas on how to "scam" the scammers will be appreciated.

Mark



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thanks for the reply and i want you to know i am still and genuinely interested ok? please could you provide me with an update of the car and pictures if available....i stay here in malaga ,spain so i will have the payment made to you by my client in the UK who wants to pay me the sum of 7500GBP which he wants to pay by UK drawn cheque or draft. so i will have him send the payment to you as payment for the vehicle....when it clears your bank, i will have you deduct the cost of the vehicle and send the balance to my personal assistant who will make out payment from the balance to my shippers who will come for the pickup of the vehicle at your end.
please get back to me with your full name , mailing address and your telephone number so that payment will get to you as soon as possible.
many thanks

This guy is called barry thomas and the last one to contact me was "Harry Potter".
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Old 20-Dec-2004, 22:41
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looks like it clears in your account you send on the balance, bankers draft then bounces leaving you with the debt

id just take the money put it in the account and do nothing
at least that way they think they've found a sucker and don't get ought out of it
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Old 20-Dec-2004, 22:47
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Yeah Glyn,

Can I use your address?

This is what it's all about I guess:

http://ducatisportingclub.com/index.php3?M=70

Mark


[Edited on 20-12-2004 by wheelspin]
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Old 21-Dec-2004, 13:23
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This should sort him out.

Barry,

The advert really says it all. It's a 1985 Left hand drive 944 with the Porsche 2.5 4 cylinder powerplant. It's good for 150mph and has the turbo bodykit fitted as standard.
Photos are attached and payment must be in cash or via Western Union. If it's via western Union I'll deliver the car anywhere providing my travel expenses are covered. I have to do it this way as in my line of work we get to hear about all sorts of schemes so cash it must be. I don't expect this will be a problem for you as a legitimate trader so I look forward to receiving the 10 digit Western Union Union reference number and the sender details. The transfer must be made out to:

MARK ANDREW TIVEY

I can then send you a draft for the difference.

Regards,

Mark


I'll be bloody amazed if he sends me a reference number.

More so if I actually get the dosh.

I'll keep you informed.
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Old 21-Dec-2004, 14:45
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Why not string him along, get his cheque, then get his details as to where to send the balance.
Pass it onto Interpol and have his account frozen under european treaty on assets acquired by way of criminal/illegal activities.

Or have I been watching too much of the sweeney.
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Old 21-Dec-2004, 21:10
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Just a thought, while there are attractions to winding up scammers, remember they are criminals, so be careful
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Old 22-Dec-2004, 13:24
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Just a thought, while there are attractions to winding up scammers, remember they are criminals, so be careful

Good point, but I don't see that people like "Mad Frankie Frazer" are going to be interested in relatively small scams. The hard crims are probably all going to be over in Belfast stuffing a lorry with £20 million or so. Ebay scammers are probably weaselly little blokes who only do it because they can hide behind internet anonimity, so I doubt that if you are going to get someone coming round to introduce your kneecaps to a baseball bat, especially if you've put a perfectly valid business like reason forward as your terms for the deal. It more bother than it's worth to them, so they'll just move on to somebody a bit more naive.

Reporting it to the law probably won't get you anywhere given the lack of resources to cover a huge amount of scamming, but you'd like to think that if they did follow it through and secure a conviction, the police would have more nouse than to give out the identity of the person that had alerted them.
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Old 22-Dec-2004, 23:02
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There's a failry well publicised website called 419Eaters (419 is the legal code given to this scam in African states(?) Nigeria I think).
Well funny site when you see the end results:
http://www.419eater.com
Pictures of scammed scammers holding notices they don't understand up to the camera.
Am I wrong to find this funny?
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