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 Ducati in my Blood
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 Join Date: Jun 2001
 Location: Little Paxton Cambridgeshire
 Mood: Growing old-DISGRACEFULLY!
  
    
      Motorbikes and Traffic lights 
  Copied from DOC Webring
 
 "Last Tuesday night I was riding back to Coventry from Lincolnshire on 
 my old Guzzi.
 I took part in a go karting event with my son and his mates based at 
 RAF Wittering and RAF Cottesmore. I left Cottesmore at 12:30 am.
 Arriving at a set of traffic lights in Market Harborough I found they 
 would not change from Red. I sat there for maybe 5 minutes before 
 gently easing forward and crossing on red. To my horror a police car 
 pulled out of a side road ahead. I slowed thinking I would be pulled 
 over - then thinking at least I will have the opportunity to report 
 this. The car did not stop and as it approached the lights they
 changed.
 At another set of lights in the middle of the same town I had the same
 experience until a car pulled up behind and the lights changed. This 
 started to ring alarm bells.
 
 Later going through the village of Shilton I was again stuck at lights
 that would not change. In desperation I wheeled the bike back to the 
 inductive loop and then crossed the loop several times. They still 
 would not change. Eventually a car came from the opposite direction 
 and they changed.
 Finally half a mile from home and yet another set of lights would not 
 change.
 I have heard many cyclists claiming push bikes will not trigger lights
 but would never have thought that this could happen to motor bikes, 
 especially a lump weighing nearly 500 lbs. The chances of finding four
 sets of traffic lights that are faulty in an 80 mile journey is very low.
 I have never knowingly experienced this kind of event before, probably
 due to the fact that normally there is enough traffic about to mask 
 what is (or maybe isn't) happening.
 
 It does raise a few questions:
 
 1: Have other motorcyclists experienced this? (surely they have). Have
 Police motorcyclists noticed this kind of event?
 
 2: What would the legal stance be with regard to the Police and courts?
 Presumably crossing lights on red is an offence unless you can prove 
 they are faulty.
 
 3: What are the specifications for traffic lights?
 
 4: Is anyone aware of any legal cases?
 
 Apart from the legal aspect this potentially raises some serious 
 safety concerns. Traffic lights are not just at junctions, what about 
 narrow hump back bridges, narrow streets in some villages etc. While 
 this kind of issue is a nuisance to cyclists they can at least wheel 
 their bikes across and therefore have the same legal status as 
 pedestrians. This is not possible for motorcyclists."
 
 Any similar experiences??
 
 John
   
 
 Growing old-disgracefully!