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Old 07-Jun-2006, 07:55
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Arrow Swiss Alpine Road Chaos

I don't know if the UK press have covered this subject, but, should you be heading for Switzerland and then Italy in the next 4-6wks please be advised to avoid the E35 A2 motorway south of Luzern heading towards the Gotthard Tunnel for Italy.

The other day 125tonne piece of rock fell off a mountain onto the motorway and crushed two Germans in their car. The mountain needs to be "stabilized" and the road repaired.

This means that traffic is using the other major north south alpine crossings and are causing huge traffic tailbacks (10 to 20kms). Avoid the Gotthard, Simplon and San Bernadino passes when heading for Italy via Switzerland in the next 4wks at least.

Alternatively bend swingers can use the smaller twistier passes: instead of Gotthard route use the "Grimsel + Nurfen Pass" - instead of the San Bernadino use the "Grimsel + Furka + Oberalp + Lukmanier Pass" or head east to Chur then use the "Julier or Albula passes + Bernina Pass" into Italy for Monza.

Alternatively give Switzerland a miss and use the French alpine crossings into Italy.

Have fun - I will.

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Old 07-Jun-2006, 09:55
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I remember doing the Grimsel, Furka, Oberalp, Lukmanier passes on a push bike. You're foolish when you're young.;-)
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Old 07-Jun-2006, 20:30
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Thanks for the tip-off. I'm off to Italy in 6 weeks....I can't wait
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Old 07-Jun-2006, 20:37
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Full story here http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/front/d...=1149255435000
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Old 08-Jun-2006, 21:22
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If you want any advise re Switzerland or if you are passing near me here in Switzerland let me know I'd be glad to join you for a ride across the alps south to Bella Italia
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Old 08-Jun-2006, 21:26
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Don't you just love that websites "experts alternative suggestions" - I bet they ride around all day in a 42 seater coach!! and don't ride bikes n know what kind of roads us guys n gals like thundering down.
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Old 09-Jun-2006, 17:07
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If you want any advise re Switzerland or if you are passing near me here in Switzerland let me know I'd be glad to join you for a ride across the alps south to Bella Italia

We haven't worked out our route yet. If you let me know whereabouts you are in Switzerland, I'll see if we can swing by en-route to Italy.

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The other day 125tonne piece of rock fell off a mountain onto the motorway and crushed two Germans in their car. The mountain needs to be "stabilized" and the road repaired.
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Go on then....how did they weigh the piece of rock?
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Old 10-Jun-2006, 19:28
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Easy - they measure the mass of the large rock - then weigh a tiny piece of the same type of rock and measure the mass of that little bit - then they simply multiple the weight by the difference in the mass of the two pieces.
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Old 10-Jun-2006, 19:31
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The largest town near to me that you see on a map is probably "ZUG" - it has a large lake attached to it called the "Zugersee". Look dirctly south of Zurich. Be glad to see a fellow Brit Ducatista.
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