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[twpd]

Originally Posted by Andy Ibbott

What TP talks of here is the exclusivity agreement we have will all our coaches and that if they wish to operate at another track day, school, etc they have to have our permission. This is standard business practise. Why should we spend all our time and effort training him for him to go off and coach elsewhere?

Precisely and that is what I was saying. There is no argument there. I was questioning the issue of i/p. You are talking about conflict of interest which I alluded to above in my previous post. Others including Tony brought up the issue of I/P which, is an entirely different kettle of fish altogether.

Originally Posted by Andy Ibbott

We take the 26 years of research that Keith Code has done in Motorcycle Cornering discoveries and teaching techniques very seriously and work hard to protect that method and information from theft. We have, in the last 11 years in Europe sued people for ripping off what and how we teach, as well as for posting the books as PDFs, copies of the DVDs etc on the Internet.

And did I not mention that? See above. I acknowledged that your materials were reasonably entitled to the protection afforded by copyright and the principles of i/p. Knowledge of how to ride fast is not.

I'm sure TP will give hints and pointers but this will be as far as he will be allowed to go. He is able to tell you what he sees, any issues that could be improved, but, he will be inviting you to attend the School to resolve these issues.

That is fair enough - I don't have any truck with that and I don't think anyone else would either.

I really do wish people would properly read what is written.

[bradders]

I understand the 'other track day company' argument, but fail to see how you can restrict someone from discussing/sharing info with a mate to help them ride better....so if a coach leaves CSS, is it expected that they will 'forget' the tuition?

its not like you've developed and patented something which no one else can do them selvles, you can read it all in a book, at best its a franchise from the yank guy

[900MAN]

Whilst understanding the need to 'protect' a business, I do find it odd that people with an implied 'knowledge' are 'duty' bound not to pass that knowledge on because of 'business' constraints.
The CSS will, IMHO, succeed or fail based on what peolple get from actually taking part in the day, I cant see that a few words from TP would make you say " TP just gave me some advice, therefore I know all that that the CSS can offer me, therefore I will not pay to go on their training"
At the end of the day advice will always be given but most of us choose to ignore it unles we pay for it.
Why do pshycologists exist if my last point isn't correct.
* Disclaimer: I've had a belly of vino so I might have got some pointswrong

[Andy Ibbott]

Hi Guys,

I don't see any arguements here, TP can advise and no doubt will, in fact, I hope he does!

Andy

[TP]

Originally Posted by twpd

.... Others including Tony brought up the issue of I/P which, is an entirely different kettle of fish altogether....

My apologies if I got that wrong, that was my understanding.

[fil2]

Interesting reading.............

I appreciatte your position Tony.....the intent was not to create a law case, but see in some way see if the techniques you learnt at the CSS would benifit me in some way and perhaps help in my decision to attend one of the levels.

I was under no illusions that i was to be taken on a level 1 CSS course at the DSC trackday.....

another time perhaps matey.....

Phil