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andyb 28-Aug-2006 21:06

talk to me about slick tyres..........
 
Im off for 4 days in almeria in Oct, weather permitting are they worth it, would i notice a difference and if so what make?

Im currently running 209gp and ive never used slicks before..........

Loz 28-Aug-2006 21:11

Andy, slicks work just as well in the wet as they do in the dry. No worries, mate!



:frog:

andyb 28-Aug-2006 21:13

put the pipe down and move away from the computer.

Loz 28-Aug-2006 21:15

:lol:

Do you have a set of tyre warmers, Andy?

andyb 28-Aug-2006 21:28

Yes, i wouldnt be seen without my tyre warmers!..........now im looking for informative answers..........do you know anyone informative?;)

Loz 28-Aug-2006 21:35

If you got tyre warmers, you'll be alright on slicks :)

Lots of informative folks on the DSC board. Fear not, Andy, one of them will be along to help you out.

Oh, and you'll certainly notice the difference with slicks ... they're the ones without a tread pattern. Have fun in Almeria!

Fordie 28-Aug-2006 22:08

:lol: :lol: 4D

TP 28-Aug-2006 23:02

Andy, if its dry run slicks. They're grippy as f***

If it's damp with no standing water, run the slicks. If it's wet with standing water - wets or something else and you'll be fine.

Keep the warmers on, keep the beers flowing and you'll be sweet.

:D

pedro 29-Aug-2006 07:18

go with what you know,i had same option in april for jerez,turned out hot but pilot power race were fine.

andyb 29-Aug-2006 19:27

Im more than happy with the 209gp's, and im sure i wont get anywhere near their limit............;) its just the mystic about slicks are they more confidence installing? Do they last longer? and which ones? Wilf???

twpd 29-Aug-2006 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyb
Im more than happy with the 209gp's, and im sure i wont get anywhere near their limit............;) its just the mystic about slicks are they more confidence installing? Do they last longer? and which ones? Wilf???



If you're happy with 209GPs (which I think are toss) then why are you thinking of slicks for? Yes- they grip massively better, last longer are more consistent but...there is a but....

My experience with them racing is that compound choice is critical, tyre warmers are a must and a different suspension set-up is sometimes required because they feed more force via the increased grip back into your chassis.

galaxy 04-Sep-2006 20:12

Why not DOT's?? No experience but I'm trying out a set of Bridgestone BT-002's on my next event and I'll let you know how they work. Cheaper than slicks, still tons of grip, and the 002's are almost spot on diameter of my street tires so no need for major suspension tuning / changes.

wilf 04-Sep-2006 21:20

Andy,

Thanks for the vote of confidence asking my opinion!
There are pros, lots of grip, lots of lean angle and they do last longer.
There are cons, they can be confusing with lots of compounds, sizes etc. and they can cost a lot more.

My 2 p's worth.

I would go for a pair and try them. Slicks give you a much faster turn in (especially compared to the 209s), much better grip braking into corners and getting on the power out of them. The harder you push them the better they feel - to a point !

If you go for slicks.. from what i've tried..

Dunlops -

Pro's... they are very very good. lots of feel, lots of grip and slide gently. last the best of all the slicks i've used.

Con's... only do a 195 rear section not 190 and a 125 front. so will take a bit of mucking about with your settings and gearing, expensive (typically £230 pair) lots of compounds to confuse.

Michellin -
Pro's... good grip, last nearly as long as the dunlops, readily available
Cons.. lots of grip until they go, but they do go suddenly. take ages to heat up.

Bridgestone -
Pros.. Cheaper than the others, simple compounds, VERY good feedback/feel, makes the front feel great! easy sizes.
cons - dont last as long, sensitive to heat cycles more than where.

Metz / Pirelli - same as racetecs/supercorsers without any tread. no different carcase or rubber.

So.. I use the Bridgestone slicks because they have great feel from the front, dont do anything unexpected have simple compounds (soft front, med rear, easy) and are the best value at about £200 per pair - ish.

Key thing with slicks is temprature because they have no cuts to help the rubber move about and cause heat, use warmers, get them really hot.

Heat cycles kill them too, so when you come back in get the warmers on and keep them hot all day, it will really help the wear n tear.

Good luck. you'll love them. you just dont know how much road tyres move about until you're on a new set of race slicks.


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