right choice??
 

i need reassurance that ive done the right thing in buying these termi's(8018606571)£450 i had to snap his hand off.have i done right and is there anything else i need and how much it will cost would be grateful if i got some feed back tonight so that i could sleep easy before telling misses in the morning cheers mucka:burn:

Look fine to me. Normally they come with the air filters, but I'm sure its no big deal. I'd still get it set up, preferably with a PCIII, at the very least, have the CO set.

Good deal for £475, the last Termis I was watching went for £790!

the air filters shouldnt be that much tho?wot you reckon £100 khu

Not even £100 mate, have a look here, they're about £50 excluding VAT:

http://www.ducatistore.co.uk/acatalo...nce_Parts.html

If you just want the Termis for the noise, I wouldnt even bother with the filters, they wont make that much of a difference IMHO.

When I had the Asymetric termi on 749s and had the original ECU refitted (due to ECU for Termi blowing up), a dyno run showed that the fuel mixture at higher revs was very lean. The dyno guy was concerned I'd been running it like that for long because it was likely to do damage. I'd really recommend getting a PC3 and use the map supplied or get a custom setup to correct it. I ended up using the supplied map and it works very nicely.

I might soon have a brand new ECU spare, for 749 asymetric Termi. It's being replaced under warranty, and I have no intention ditching the PC3 now.

sorted thanks for the help all,let me know hw when and how much you want for the ecu:sing:

I'll go chase that up then. Best start thinking about how much you'd be willing to pay for it. It'll be brand new in the box, and therefore "not keyed to the bike". Don't know if you're aware, but once you've had the ECU set up on the bike it's linked to the key and can't be changed (allegedly)!

i think i read somewhere on an old thread that this was the case,im not even certain which route to go down.im more after the sound of the exhaust foremost and power gains second is there much in it with using either one???ECU or PC111.

Do you really need to fit the ECU for the Termis ?
I was told that the Termi ECU was developed on a track and doesnt go that well on the road.
Im not after the extra power either and was hoping to just fit the pipes and get the CO adjusted so that it runs right.
Ive just bought the filters for £80 from JHP and there like a pair of tights over a wire frame !

good question.im thinking maybe that or the pc3 will smooth out the power delivery or something like that to make it a more pleasurable ride,any thing below 3000revs and its dire

If you read up above, I mentioned about adjusting the CO not being enough. A 749 runs VERY lean at higher revs with the Asym Termi and std ECU. It's in "gonna do damage" territory. I saw this when the initial dyno run was done prior to fitting the Power Commander.

Guess you pays your money and takes your choice though. Or takes the risk.

Didn't notice this reply for some reason.

I don't know you'll get power gains with the asymetric on the 749. Mine gets 100bhp, just, with the Termi and PC3 (or ECU). Wasn't really any difference I don't think between them. The difference comes in the throttle response with the PC3, and (depending on the map), smoothing out the dips in the curve that you end up with because of the compromises in the ECU. For example, manufacturers have to meet noise regs, and the test is done at 5,500 rpm. As a richer fuel/air mixture lowers the exhaust note, you will find a rich spot at 5,500 rpm to help pass that test. You will also find compromises for emmission regs I guess.

Anyway, that is why I am happy with the PC3. As I said, you pays your money and takes your choice. If you want the pukka ECU then fine, if not bothered then PC3 is a good option. I like it.

hw do you find you now have a smoother ride all the way threw the rev range or still rough (if thats the word you can use) especially below 3000

question answered cheers hw

My 2003 749s always pretty good at low revs to be honest. I reckoned it would pull fairly smoothly from 2500 rpm up. The Termi gave more low/mid torque, or at least it felts like it. It's so long since I rode a std 749 that I don't really remember. I do remember thinking "wow, this is brilliant" when I first rode it with the Termi after 12 months of std exhaust.

The PC3 gives you better fine throttle response, I reckon.

Yep, I'd concur with everything Henry has said. You should really think about getting it set up with a PCIII.

My 749 bip (not an S), made 107bhp on JHPs dyno, with no noticeable dips anywhere in the rev range. Smooth from beginning to end!

Can't really remember what the bike felt like without the Termis, but I'm sure it pulls stronger in the mid range and sounds wicked!

107?? What year is yours? There was a power boost in 2004 wasn't there?

Have you checked the front pipe has had the "cat" cut out of it as that looks like a standard downpipe to me with the bulge for the cat

Mine was a 2003 on a 53 plate. I was well chuffed with the result, didnt cost too much for JHP to sort it out either. Well worth the trip to Coventry!

i dont know im collecting it tommorrow morning but now you've said that its put doubts in my mind whether its a standard or termi pipe. :puzzled: is there anyone who could tell me if its one or the other

mucka,
I would give Tony a ring at Ducati Wolverhampton who would be able to advise 01384 400234.He is very helpfull and knowledgeable.

i dont know tony personally but he has given me some good advise since owning my 749.but the thing is im suppose to collect at 9am and if its not a termi downpipe is it gonna cost alot to get one since i would of spent £450 on termi plus the amount for PC3 and new filters.what would you do go for it and worry about a it after