2004 749 Termi Kits
 

Jeeeez

On for a rant but when I bought my bike last October the story was that there was a small snag with the fuelling and that the ECUs were being reprogrammed. 7 months later I take the plunge and buy one. Phoned today to check when it will arrive to be told.....

yes you guessed there are still fuelling issues.

Anyone with a 2004 749 (base model) that has a Termi that runs fine?

Anyone else still waiting, if so how long and do you have a new landing date?

cheers

Who is your dealer, I would check his facts.

I have a 749S that is an 04 model purchased last October.

I was led around the garden path a bit re Termis but eventually established that the Termi for the base model was avaliable, and I have seen bikes with them fitted.

The issue around the ECU fuelling related to 2004 s models, I ordered and paid for mine when I got the bike.

After DUK getting involved the dealer managed to fit my Termis and new correctly mapped ECU last month.

Buy the Termi's and forget the DP ECU.

Buy yourself a PC3 and get it custom mapped on a dyno, should cost about the same a DP ECU. It cost me about £100 to get the PC3 custom mapped for my 999s and the bike runs a DP ECU aswell - I learnt the hard way !!

The mapping on DP ECU's isn't perfect.

Is it possible to buy the Termis less the ecu? Aternatively I am thinking of buying a decat pipe, a second hand silencer which I will gut the cat out of, and then running a custom mapped chip.

I have this set up on my car but was trying to keep the bike simple:saint:

cheers

Ive said it so many times. For the cost of that horrible assymetric system, get yerself a full balanced 54 or 57mm jobbie. Pc111, dyno run, and away you go!

its down to cost andy,ive tried both ways,i dont think the 57mm system is £2-3k better than assymetric system.

v2 pete is running my old termi can with de-cat down pipe,race filters..it runs fine,lots more power on tap,sounds the dogs, happy days.:roll:

Everything about Ducati is about money.

I ran the open can for a while. If Ducati noise is your thing, i dont think the sound of the open decatted pipe jobbie is a patch on the sound of my 57mm. Its not particularly loud, just a distinctive 999 bark.

i had a 999s with a 57mm system on annd now ive got a 999r with the race system fitted .......the new one sounds better in my opinion.....



not that it counts:lol:

guess were all different, plus you kept breaking yours...:lol:

mine had a faulty wire loom which is 100% fixed, nought to do with after market parts:D

i meant Nathanu...........but now youve come to mention it................:lol::lol::P

lmao....

yep spent more time in the shop than on the road but i have faith in the new bike (and the new dealer)...
(fingers crossed eh!!)

is it possable to mod an 03-04 57mm system to fit the new swingarm??????

yes, jhp has done a couple!

Yeah, it makes that BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!! :D

till ure blue in the face m8.

/ian

No reason why you can't buy Termi's less ECU, either the 2-2 or 2-1-2 system and either new or second hand.

Remember that a previously fitted ECU (ie second hand)won't work on any bike other than that which it was fitted to first.

The ECU's fitted to the 749/999 range don't have chips like the older models. You have to re-programme the whole ECU and Ducati have very kindly encripted the system such that it is nigh on impossible to do - unless you want to fork out large on a Corse item. Thats why PC3 is the most cost effective way to go.

749er, you could.......

Buy new Termi assymetric can, carbon cover, link pipe, filters + ancillaries (no ecu) = approx £550

Buy a PCIII for a 748 off fleaBay (same but cheaper) = approx £150

Have it all setup on dyno (IMHO, better than 1 size fits all DP ecu) = approx £100

Enjoy spending the change (from not buying the ecu) on some bling (if that's your bag) or a couple of trackdays. :burn:

[Edited on 1-6-2005 by Wylie1]

I was lucky to get a 57mm system with ecu and filters for my 04 999S at a very good price. When chatting to mechanics they told me the ecu lets engine rev another 1000 rpm before it hits limiter and as its designed for racing is more top endy and less mid range. As i use bke on road they said don't fit ecu until i can get pc and dyno time for a map for my specific setup. They also said it was posible to use a new ecu without coding it thus leaving it free to be moved onto another bike or the system resold with it, once coded it cant be done again.

I think red would be more appropriate!

Fantastic!! Can you recommend good tuner in the south east. Will have a surf for the parts, am guessing Ducati( would be a good place to start.

Cheers

I highly recommend Pro-twins in Godstone. They're an official Ducati service centre & I've found them to be exceptionally professional, helpful & very reasonable when it comes to servicing.

http://www.protwins.co.uk/

Cheers,
Lee

Neil Spalding @ Sigma Performance knows a thing or two about tuning Ducati's and he's based in Tunbridge Wells

Thanks for the leads guys. A question about the PC111. Is it piggy back or stand alone. ie will it render the Ducati immobiliser useless if I go for the version for the 748, I have a feeling it might.

Cant find the Termi kit without the chip, may have to go second hand for that.

PC3 usb is piggy back, get the one for your bike and it comes with all the correct connectors and will not affect either the imobiliser or any alarm you have fitted. Most people locate it behind the left hand side fairing on the battery box.

Can't say whether or not a 748 one will work ok.

I've just fitted a 748 PCIII usb jobbie on my 749s. Everything fits & works fine. It doesn't go anywhere near the immobiliser, so that isn't affected.

Some people on these boards (sorry, can't remember who) have bought the parts separately (without ecu) rather than as a kit. Somebody listed the actual parts you need in a post within the past 3-4 months. You should be able to get them from any Ducati specialist that sells the kit.