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mark749s 21-Dec-2005 22:52

749s power commander
 
has anybody fitted a power commander to a bog standard 749s if so did it make any difference, if not why not?


mark

andyb 21-Dec-2005 23:26

Ive got one on my 999r. I would say it would make a difference even with a std Exhaust, and dont forge5t it could be changed as or when you mod the bike.

I recon the std fuelling on a ducati even the later series stuff is quite crude........... the Pc would look to smooth this!

galaxy 22-Dec-2005 00:42

I have a '05 749s and just installed one. Matter of fact, I just droped mine off at the shop to get a custom map made. Got a local guy in town with a Dyno Jet dyno. Mine has a full system but I'm sure results are results. I'll definately fill you in on mine when I get the bike back.

Davieravie 22-Dec-2005 01:00

I would say that if youre trundling about in it doing the usual day to day stuff then its not going to make a big difference. If youre doing trackdays then maybe it is. Ive just had my full termis fitted and Im not going to bother with it any more. Its something i did consider. Seems a waste of money IMHO if youre just using the bike on the road.

andyb 22-Dec-2005 10:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Davieravie
I would say that if youre trundling about in it doing the usual day to day stuff then its not going to make a big difference. If youre doing trackdays then maybe it is. Ive just had my full termis fitted and Im not going to bother with it any more. Its something i did consider. Seems a waste of money IMHO if youre just using the bike on the road.

Have you even checked the fuelling to make sure its nor dangerously lean?

dickieducati 22-Dec-2005 10:29

fitted and corretly set up on my 999 it made a huge difference i would say.

Harv748 22-Dec-2005 12:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Davieravie
I would say that if youre trundling about in it doing the usual day to day stuff then its not going to make a big difference. If youre doing trackdays then maybe it is. Ive just had my full termis fitted and Im not going to bother with it any more. Its something i did consider. Seems a waste of money IMHO if youre just using the bike on the road.

I haven't got one fitted...as they don't do them for my 'ol SP...but I would definately consider one if poss.

The benifits often described are improved throttle respose, smoother/less snatchy at lower openings, smoother torque curve, more MPG...all of which I would say are real world benifits if you are riding the bike 'normally' on the road?

HW 22-Dec-2005 12:56

I've got PC3 fitted to 2003 749S with asym Termi. Not quite what you were asking for I know.

In discussion with the dynojet dealer I was told that the manufacturers are restricted when they do the fuelling by the noise and emission regs. For example all fuel injected bikes are likely to have a richer spot in the fuel mixture at 5,500 rpm, because that is the point where the noise tests are done and a richer micture deepens the exhaust note making it easier to pass.

The PC3 will sooth the curve, and give you a more responsive throttle. That is the main difference I noticed with it, it is more "ready to go" now.

Twinfan 22-Dec-2005 15:18

Henry,

I think what you're saying makes sense for a standard system like Mark's.

I have the same setup as yours (minus the PCIII). Do you reckon it's worth me having one fitted? I'm not after more power, so is it worth it from a "smooth running" perspective?

HW 22-Dec-2005 15:25

Quote:

Originally posted by Twinfan
Henry,

I think what you're saying makes sense for a standard system like Mark's.

I have the same setup as yours (minus the PCIII). Do you reckon it's worth me having one fitted? I'm not after more power, so is it worth it from a "smooth running" perspective?

I ran mine for a year on road and track with the ECU that came with the Termi. I liked it, but knew no different (except the previous year without the Termi).

I HAD to do something because the ECU blew, replacement was going to take some time and I had a track day booked the following week. I got the std ECU refitted (thanks SteveR from Italia), and then got a PC3 fitted to correct the fuelling. Trust me - the fuelling is way off at higher revs with Termi and std fuelling ECU!

The result was that it was noticably more responsive across the range, and it seemed to jsut go on and on. Previosuly I had noticed a tail off over 8,500 rpm, which did not surprise me, but now it keeps pulling right up over 10k! The throttle response seems much better now, quicker to rev and gets to the interesting area much quicker. It's been like having a new bike this last couple of months of this year. :)

Conclusion - road or track, well worth having the PC3, IMHO.


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