Monster S2R

[rockhopper]

Does anyone know what the anticipated price of the new S2R is going to be? I found a US site advertising them for $7995 which works out at £4431! If its somewhere close to that over here then i could be seriously tempted!

[LesPaul]

According to TWO magazine they will be around £6k.

Darren

[rockhopper]

Hmmm, what do you reckon Daz?

[Lee1980]

Going to £5995 same as current M800, according to MCN, just seen a 2004 800 for 5995 at my dealer, so that will be reduced when the s2r comes in.

Saw a S4r and the swing arm is awesome and with the stacked cans looks awesome but at £8400 a lot of dough, the s2r 800 although not as fast has the same back end and looks cleaner at the front due to the air cooled motor but a lot cheaper than than s4r, could tempt me away from 748s next year for more practicality.

Seen the new 999 & 749 to much nicer, espeically the 749 in red with red frame and the new black swingarm nice:D

[Edited on 26-9-2004 by Lee1980]

[rockhopper]

I just dont like the look of the 749, 999 bikes and the 748,996,916 are just too cramped for me. The S4 and the S4R have the same running cost as my ST4 so one of the 2 valve monster will fit the bill hopefully.

[Lee1980]

Be nice if they put the 1000ds lump in the new s2r :D but I guess it will be to close to the s4r in price and performance then.

Any one got a 800 monster or ss, looking at the figure on ducati.com my 748s puts out the same torque at a bit higher revs but has a lot more top end of course:D

I had ago on multi struddle and that was way fast enough hope the 800 isn't to far off;)

[big ash]

S2R looks very tasty and practical, List price of £5995.00 not bad either.

But never forget to play it cool, when talking to the salesman, let him know accidently (ofcourse) that you're just going to have a look at a couple of s/h one's as you might just be streaching on price a little,(remember, ice cool at this critical moment), and seeing as it "only for going to work on" ha ha!
a moped might still do the trick. Give him time to simmer nicely, work him as he want to work you, but remember, he wants your cash.

Aim for £5400. 00, (show him some cash deposit), you'll be doing ok at about £5750.00 inc first service. Hold out for the first service as this only costs the dealer about £40.00.

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ice cool, ice cool, ice cool!


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[Edited on 26-9-2004 by big ash]

[rockhopper]

Nope, not going for another four valve duke, the running costs are way too high (for me).

[rockhopper]

Nope, my ST4 has got more than enough power for me, its the £600 service bill for rockers and cam shafts every year that i can't handle.

Brutal power being the 20 odd horse power more than i've already got? I dont think so.

[Dave G]

This gets my current vote for next bike.The trusty 916 may even get px ed against it.I think the S4r's engine looks ugly when its put on display like that and the two valve one looks a lot classier.

[rockhopper]

I quite agree Dave, all that plumbing kind of spoils it a bit.

[big ash]

Originally posted by rockhopper
Nope, my ST4 has got more than enough power for me, its the £600 service bill for rockers and cam shafts every year that i can't handle.

Brutal power being the 20 odd horse power more than i've already got? I dont think so.

£600.00 service holy moses, £600.00 that is just rediculas, thanks lads for the knowledge. Just shows you learn somthing new everyday. I would be certainly be doing my homework on 4 valve Duke's. I would have thought more basic engine = cheaper running costs.

sixxx hundreddddd pounddddddds, crikey!


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[Jools]

Originally posted by big ash
Originally posted by rockhopper
Nope, my ST4 has got more than enough power for me, its the £600 service bill for rockers and cam shafts every year that i can't handle.

Brutal power being the 20 odd horse power more than i've already got? I dont think so.

£600.00 service holy moses, £600.00 that is just rediculas, thanks lads for the knowledge. Just shows you learn somthing new everyday. I would be certainly be doing my homework on 4 valve Duke's. I would have thought more basic engine = cheaper running costs.

sixxx hundreddddd pounddddddds, crikey!


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Misconstrued I think mate. All Dukes have got at least four valves. Rockhopper's talking about valves per cylinder, so his has got 8 valves and consumes more rockers than Lemmy does coke by the sound of it

[rockhopper]

Sorry mate, yes Jools is right. The 996,916,748 etc motors all tend to be called four valve motors even though they have eight valves in total! The two valver like the ST2, 900SS, are much cheaper to run in terms of servicing but make less power. For example a 944cc 2 valve motor makes about 75hp while a 916cc four valve motor makes 107hp.

My last service needed three new rockers at £85 each hence the desire not to repeat that exercise in 6000 miles time!!

[big ash]

Originally posted by vman
No offence, but....

If its got Ducati on the tank, you cant start pinching pennies.

Walk or catch the bus if you wanna save money on servicing.:puzzled:

No offence, but....

Ducati or no ducati,as much as i love the brand, a six grand motorcycle which needs a £600.00 service is OTT. £600 is a lot of money, surely there is something wrong with these motors. I thrashed my 97' 916 from new and only changed the oil twice, + cam belts at 5k. Though the kid who i sold it to (at 7k) only managed to thrash it for two weeks(after i had it 6 years), and it snapped a con rod, how unlucky!

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new donky please sir.

p.s look out for me on my C90, not on the bus.


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[rockhopper]

I have no problem with servicing costs Vman. I just object to paying money out on "consumables" that shouldn't be consumed. Rockers should last the life of the bike and if you think that kind of expense is acceptable then your a bigger mug than i thought you were.