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DJ Tera
09-Jul-2003, 12:41
I did Snetterton yesterday, and at least every other lap I would get a false neutral going from 4th to 5th, at one point I had to try THREE times to get it into gear, bike is only 10 months old surely the gearbox isnt sh@gged already?!:(
Damo748
09-Jul-2003, 16:17
This sounds similar to the problems that Rattler had?
andy bentley
09-Jul-2003, 18:38
you got frame plugs in?
If you have, check that the lever has some clearance when moving up. I was getting them and it was the frame plugs getting in the way - bought them via DSC too. There was nothing wrong with the lever adjustment, just needed bending out a bit.
Andy
DJ Tera
09-Jul-2003, 21:16
It happened when nailing it on the two long straights, i wasnt caning it on the first two laps of every session, and it only happens when i was going for it, had to give it a good kick up the arse to get it into fifth :(
I've had frame plugs for 6 months now, this is the first time I'm getting false neutrals (apart from sometimes going from 1st to 2nd - but dont "they all do that sir?")
DJT were you useing the clutch.
If so next time try without.
Jon
Damo748
10-Jul-2003, 08:06
On that note, when I did Donny earlier this year I was surprised at how well the Ducati did the clutchless gear shift. It was a lot smoother than it was on my Kawasaki.....:lol:
Clutchless upshifts are the way to go. Never seen the need for a quick shifter when you master this technique. cannot believe mere mortals would ever benefit from a quickshifter.
:frog:
DJ Tera
10-Jul-2003, 14:26
Will using the rev-limiter as a quick-shifter f*ck my engine/gearbox up? I'm asking cos the dyno chart i have shows my bike making peak power at 10K, and it doesnt drop off after that either!
I was of the same opinion, Yeti. Until I tried the one that came on my bike. WOW! Being able to keep the throttle pinned, as you can with the quickshifter makes a huge difference!
DJTerra, this might sound a bit daft but if the shifter is located in too high a position it does make it more difficult to give positive up-shifts - try lowering the position of the gear shifter downwards towards the ground ie in an anti clockwise arc around its pivot point this will give your foot more leverage for the upward change and more pressure for the downward change. it made a big difference on my mine
I used to miss gear's on my ZX6R , but i now use Race pattern ,ie down for up & up for down
Never missed a gear yet ,would never go back to road pattern !
:D
DJ Tera
14-Jul-2003, 09:47
Nope, just the standard ones, I'll try lowering the lever a bit and see what its like at brands!
On the track a reverse shift pattern is the way to go, in conjunction with a quickshift -.- luvvverly positive changes every time and take 5 yards out of everybody else without a quickshift, just hold the throttle on the stop, especially on tracks like Snetterton with long straights.
pguenet
15-Jul-2003, 10:32
DJ,
Last time I opened the left case up on the 916 we found out that the selecting fork had a little bit broken. This little bit stops the gear selection to overrotate which is likely to select false neutrals.
If this happened on mine it probably happens on some others too and this is may be something you ought to check.
Cheers
p
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