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aws
19-Jul-2005, 12:57
I assume giving the dvla a wrong address is an offence.
But how much of an offence?
What's the law have to say on the matter I wonder.
It's not me that's gone-done something stupid, but without going into great depths here, I wondered if anyone had the gen on this matter.
Thanks

Tim
andyb
19-Jul-2005, 13:08
Do you mean moving house, or deliberatly creating an address to avoid prosecution and costs?
aws
19-Jul-2005, 13:54
The latter.

Tim
Twinfan
19-Jul-2005, 14:00
I would guess a fine? It's non-endorsable I guess, so no points on licence?
electricsheep
19-Jul-2005, 14:04
i am not an expert, but i would think that it would also be a criminal offence, not just a driving offence. so you would get a criminal record for free
beancounter
19-Jul-2005, 14:21
On a similar topic, what's worse - the penalty for doing 48mph in a 40 limit, or the penalty for not disclosing who was driving (the car) at the time ?
Twinfan
19-Jul-2005, 15:00
The latter. Former is a £60 fine and 3 points. Failing to disclose is not a fixed penalty, and it's seen as a more 'serious' motoring offence.
aws
19-Jul-2005, 16:44
I was hoping for something major, although I doubt that a criminal record is that likely.
A whopping fine of a £1K maybe?
Not sure - that's why I asked here.

Thanks

Tim
yeti
19-Jul-2005, 16:55
It's gonna get you a criminal prosecution, it's fraudulent and perjury. Depending on what you trying to avoid, if caught they could even sling your ass in clink!

However, it is not illegal to give them an address in the States as long as you can be traced there.....
Jools
19-Jul-2005, 17:05
Originally posted by aws
I was hoping for something major, although I doubt that a criminal record is that likely.


Hoping for something major :puzzled::puzzled::puzzled:

Are you on some sort of vendetta then?
Twinfan
19-Jul-2005, 18:56
Maybe his address was used.....
aws
20-Jul-2005, 09:35
I am chasing payment after a county court ruling in my favour.
The defendant provided a photo copy of a driving license with and address on to the courts and I as part of her defence but it's is not where she lives.
Since I am cheesed off chasing this person round and round the houses (literally), I wanted to establish the likely ramifications were I to inform the DVLA of this, and knowing there is a smattering of legal eagles / police officers on this site, I thought it might throw up some info that I could use as a carrot & stick to get her to reply to my demands.
If said defendant were aware for example that she ran the risk of a criminal prosecution, it might force her had to re-commence payments as she is a nanny and could ill-afford that sort of action.
Messy I know but the DVLA site is less than helpful and no one actionably works for them - it all a telephone system that takes you through so many options you eventually give up the ghost and hang up since there is no one to actually talk to.

Cheers

Tim

[Edited on 20-7-2005 by aws]
andyb
20-Jul-2005, 09:40
:o
everton
20-Jul-2005, 09:48
Ahem .. cough cough .. not sure you should be publishing these details (including your own) on a public forum? :o
andyb
20-Jul-2005, 10:06
I agree with Everton. Would it not be worth considering a private detective?
Jools
20-Jul-2005, 10:27
Ahhh....so it is a vendetta then!

OK, so somebody owes you money. Pursuance of occasional bad debts is part of the normal run of things for self-employed people and small businesses isn't it?

Frankly, I think that asking for peoples advice on what might at first glance be an automotive issue and, therefore, might have a tenuous link with the interests of DSC members is one thing. Using the board to pursue a personal claim against somebody, who for all we know may have good reason (perhaps because they are in dispute about the goods or services you have provided) for not paying you is quite another and in my view a misuse of this board.
everton
20-Jul-2005, 10:33
Originally posted by Jools
Ahhh....so it is a vendetta then!

OK, so somebody owes you money. Pursuance of occasional bad debts is part of the normal run of things for self-employed people and small businesses isn't it?

Frankly, I think that asking for peoples advice on what might at first glance be an automotive issue and, therefore, might have a tenuous link with the interests of DSC members is one thing. Using the board to pursue a personal claim against somebody, who for all we know may have good reason (perhaps because they are in dispute about the goods or services you have provided) for not paying you is quite another and in my view a misuse of this board.


... and a breach of civil liberties - in this day and age even the most heinous of criminals get some protection of that.
antonye
20-Jul-2005, 11:23
Nah, threaten her with the DVLA, get your money, then grass her up anyway for messing you around :devil:
Jools
20-Jul-2005, 11:43
I see that you've now edited your post (that occured 7 or so posts above this reply) which originally gave names, addresses and much other inappropriate personal detail so that it reads like more general and innocuous description of your claim, rather than a witch hunt.

Again this is a disingenuous use of the board. Further clarification of your original post through continuing replies that add to the thread is one thing. Editing your original post such that following replies from others have no contextual basis is simply disrespectful to other DSC members. However, it is a game we could all play if so inclined.