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JPM
22-Aug-2005, 14:19
Anyone know anything about these?

I've already got one, an Accenta 8 mini (I think) and it works a treat, various passives and door sensors. But in the next few weeks they'll be the patter of tiny feet, or should I say paws as 2 little kittens arrive and I don't think it has any scope for pets.

Does the actual alarm unit need upgrading? or is it at the PIR level? or a combination of both?

Mr_S
22-Aug-2005, 14:43
I think Clockwork Orange is our specialist in this area and may be worth a U2U.

Mello-Yellow
22-Aug-2005, 14:43
You can buy some animal pir's they are less sensitive than the normal ones, somethin to do with the size of the object that they sense, had some fitted to my system when it was installed.
the other way round it is to put some tape on the bottom of the pir's you already have this will then only sense any object over a certain height, not much good when the little buggers are crawling up the curtains which has happened on a few occasions :D

guest1
22-Aug-2005, 14:49
Originally posted by JPM
Anyone know anything about these?

I've already got one, an Accenta 8 mini (I think) and it works a treat, various passives and door sensors. But in the next few weeks they'll be the patter of tiny feet, or should I say paws as 2 little kittens arrive and I don't think it has any scope for pets.

Does the actual alarm unit need upgrading? or is it at the PIR level? or a combination of both?

I reckon the more reliable method would be to use the window/door contacts, but these are susceptible to air/ground vibrations such as thunder etcetera(cos door and window frames DO rattle). If you've got decent frames then they are generally good.
PIR's - need to lower the heights and change the lens' for a pet lens - this cuts off the detection swathe into a level beam. This should be OK for the time being until the kitties learn how to jump up on the furniture and counters. By lowering and using pet lens' then you could "cut" the room down to waist or shoulder height so that anything below it would not be picked up (unless Mr or Miss Burglar goes around on hands and kness - not unheard of).

Anyhow, what are they doing in the house on their own anyway?

guest1
22-Aug-2005, 14:50
Keep the cats in a cage whilst you're out?

Rattler
22-Aug-2005, 14:51
Gaffer tape's your answer;

Simply apply a couple of strips to each Moggie and secure to the floor at night - sorted ;)

guest1
22-Aug-2005, 14:53
:lol::lol::lol:

JPM
22-Aug-2005, 15:01
Not so much bothered at night, because we'll be there anyway, just like now I'm at work and they might be in setting the alarm off etc

antonye
22-Aug-2005, 15:04
Yes, you need to check your PIR sensors as some are able to distinguish between a cat and a human, so will trigger for one and not the other.

If you don't have the right ones it should be a simple replacement job.

COL595
22-Aug-2005, 15:09
My mate bought a 'special' (expensive) animal tolerant alarm system and had it professionally installed.

Had it done about 6 months ago, and though it's been 'tweaked' by the installer many times since then, he still gets to go home most days to switch it off.

In terms of installation costs, his time and petrol costs when dealing with repeated false alarms, etc. it would've been cheaper for him to be burgled 3 times a year for the rest of his life.

guest1
22-Aug-2005, 17:12
Originally posted by antonye
Yes, you need to check your PIR sensors as some are able to distinguish between a cat and a human, so will trigger for one and not the other.

If you don't have the right ones it should be a simple replacement job.

Hmmm, simple replacement it should be, but you would still need to lower the PIR to a level of say 1400mm AFFL, which means you'll have alarm cable coming down the wall.
Not sure on the "pet distingiushing" PIRs, but if the cat moves fast enough then I presume it's signature could be mistaken for a larger object and hence set the alarm off.

I've only ever seen one cat friendly alarm in a house with two cats, and that was where there was no PIR's and all window and door contacts.

Delooney
22-Aug-2005, 22:40
We too have cats.

Most alarms now have zoning.

Each night I 'part set' the system disarming all the sensors except the contact switches on the front and rear door and the garage PIR.

Peace of mind...

Delooney