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So anyone with a 583 can race in Class A & B, but the 620 riders can only race in Class A?
Is that fair?
I think that if you ride a 583 you race in Class B, and if you ride a 620 you race in Class A.
None of this doing both classes crap.
If you want more tracktime, then enter Sound of Thunder.
Your thoughts?
you must be riding 620 then dom
Rattler
10-Jan-2006, 17:41
If someone wants to ride a 583 in 620 (and race in the 583) - good luck to 'em.
As long as they don't stop 620 riders getting a spot and it keeps the race entry funds in the DD, seems fine to me.
Tim
dickieducati
10-Jan-2006, 17:46
thought the rules had been changed due to sufficient numbers on the grid so that you can only enter either one or the other now.
Chris Wood
10-Jan-2006, 17:49
That was my understanding Tim,
In order to leverage volume with the organising clubs and promote the fact we could have two strong grids at each race, i would rather see 583 boys entering dd 620 that SOT.
Happy to put it to the vote of 620 riders and the 75% majority rule could apply either way.
I guess those that would give it a go on 620's would, a: be competent enough to not ruin anyones race and/or b: just out for some track time and not mess with the GP gods at the sharp end? IMHO
Originally posted by domski
So anyone with a 583 can race in Class A & B, but the 620 riders can only race in Class A?
Is that fair?
I think that if you ride a 583 you race in Class B, and if you ride a 620 you race in Class A.
None of this doing both classes crap.
If you want more tracktime, then enter Sound of Thunder.
Your thoughts?
whats the difference between a 583 entering 620 class or Sot class for extra tracktime..we are all entitled to enter 2 races...620 can go SoT if they wish.?
Chris Wood
10-Jan-2006, 17:53
There some meat on this bone.....
couchcommando
10-Jan-2006, 17:55
No worries with 583's in 620 with me :)
Rattler
10-Jan-2006, 17:57
Originally posted by domski
So anyone with a 583 can race in Class A & B, but the 620 riders can only race in Class A?
Is that fair?
I think that if you ride a 583 you race in Class B, and if you ride a 620 you race in Class A.
None of this doing both classes crap.
If you want more tracktime, then enter Sound of Thunder.
Your thoughts?
What are you afraid of?
be interesting to see how many of the moaners who wanted a 583 class last year enter the 620 as well this year
Originally posted by tetol
be interesting to see how many of the moaners who wanted a 583 class last year enter the 620 as well this year
and that is relevent how...............
:puzzled:
dickieducati
10-Jan-2006, 18:05
its 2006. can we all take a chill pill this year.
we spend way too much time getting in a flap about stuff that we dont know about yet.
Originally posted by tetol
be interesting to see how many of the moaners who wanted a 583 class last year enter the 620 as well this year
we have - with a 620:puzzled: :lol:
we also have a std 583 in the 583 class
shouldnt you have said ; entered the 583 class Paul?:puzzled:
C:)
Look, there isn't a single person on a 583 that will beat me on my 'new' 620.
This is purely in the interests of fairness.
Is it fair that some 583's will take points away from slower 620 riders?
All of us are paying good money to be there, in their own class.
If you 'just want extra track time', then go in SoT instead and affect NOBODY.
We can all do Sound of Thunder.
We can't all do 583, and we can't all do/afford 620.
I don't think anyone who is doign 620's should be allowed to buy a 583 and do that 'for extra track time' or indeed to try to win the championship.
If you can buy 2 bikes, you have an unfair advantage on others too.
If you want to race 583 - then race in 583.
If you want to race 620 - then race in 620.
If you want extra tracktime - then race in SOT.
[Edited on 10-1-2006 by domski]
ChrisBushell
10-Jan-2006, 18:11
I have answered Dom's question off line
Dom, Chris DID confirm this back in Dec, that as they had enough entries now in each class, that they would be kept separate.
I did a search for the post, but it - and the thread it was in have vanished. I do have a copy of it on a word doc tho - as is often the case, I copy & paste over for AK to read later in his lunch hour etc, as we didnt have a printer at home till 2 weeks ago.
Tonio600
10-Jan-2006, 18:15
Message original : tetol
you must be riding 620 then dom
+1
Originally posted by AK and CK
Dom, Chris DID confirm this back in Dec, that as they had enough entries now in each class, that they would be kept separate.
I did a search for the post, but it - and the thread it was in have vanished. I do have a copy of it on a word doc tho - as is often the case, I copy & paste over for AK to read later in his lunch hour etc, as we didnt have a printer at home till 2 weeks ago.
That's not what Chris just emailed me :lol:
Sort of, but not quite.
It all depends on the number of 620's on 1st March.
well why does it all have to be so secret then?:puzzled::puzzled:
Tonio600
10-Jan-2006, 18:19
Dom, are you already writing the first pages of your 2006 book? :lol:
dickieducati
10-Jan-2006, 18:20
cloak and daggar sportingclub
I could tell you all, but then I'd have to kill you :ninja:
Originally posted by dickieducati
cloak and daggar sportingclub
:o no change there then!
:rolleye:
I thought it was the Ducati Secret Club??? :lol:
i thought it was the DD Gucci glass..........LOL....
"Remember no-one is fast with 75cc of cement in the front forks. "
[Edited on 10-1-2006 by fil2]
psychlist
10-Jan-2006, 19:20
Originally posted by domski
Look, there isn't a single person on a 583 that will beat me on my 'new' 620.
To finish first, first you must finish ;)
OK, with the exception of me falling off - there is nobody gunna whoop my butt on a 583 motorsickle!
weeksy2
10-Jan-2006, 19:35
can you see over the tank with your head that far up your own arse ?
:sing:
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwnnnnn!!!!!
weeksy2
10-Jan-2006, 19:42
well come on Dom... it is a bit of an insane comment to make.
Lets assume your tyre goes flat, or a footpeg breaks, or your fluid boils or any of another 4000 things that can go wrong...
It's a poor comment and a bit of an insult really to the other riders.
You know what Steve, you're absolutely right.
I'm against 583 riders competing in the 620 class, coz I'm scared that they'll beat me.
I've been rumbled.
weeksy2
10-Jan-2006, 19:59
that wasn't my point and you know it...
*wanders off shaking head.
Dude, you knew what I meant in my post.
OBVIOUSLY, I wasn't allowing for me having a puncture or exploding boots or whatever.
All things being equal and nothing going wrong - a 583 won't beat me on a 620 this season, and therefore, I did not start this thread for fear of losing to a 583.
bradders
10-Jan-2006, 20:08
would be interesting to see Fil out in 620 on a 583 and if you beat him Dom...
Tonio600
10-Jan-2006, 20:13
I think we should bookmark that topic, to find it more easily at the end of 2006 :lol:
only joking mate :P (but I've bookmarked it anyway :lol: )
DaveB916
10-Jan-2006, 20:13
Have I missed the plot here?
The argument appears to be you cannot run a less 'powered machine' in a 'higher powered' class becuase you would get more track time?
Is someone now to monitor all trackdays to ensure no rider gets more hours than anyone else, and what is the allocated amount of tracktime allowed? Does this also include European tracktime?
I think my brain is going to hurt trying to straighten this one out in my head !!!
:puzzled::puzzled::puzzled:
Originally posted by domski.
All things being equal and nothing going wrong - a 583 won't beat me on a 620 this season, and therefore, I did not start this thread for fear of losing to a 583.
glad you put this season muppet:P
cos you got beat by a 583 at Cadders last year.......:lol::lol::lol:
Originally posted by Tonio600
I think we should bookmark that topic, to find it more easily at the end of 2006 :lol:
only joking mate :P (but I've bookmarked it anyway :lol: )
better to copy & paste it into word doc, periodically updating it mate - cos some threads disappear.............;)
I do!:saint:
CK - A 583 never got near me when I was riding a 2005 620 - which is what I'm riding this season.
And that race you're talking about, I set the fastest lap for a 675, coming from dead last through the traffic and then broke my arm.
Has everyone forgotten the last race of the season too?
The first time I sat on a 620 with anything like 63bhp... Where was Phil then? Where were all the 675's and 583's?
3 seconds a lap behind that's where.
I tell you what, letting 583's in to 620 will not affect me coz I'll be up front somewhere.
The thing is, people think this is Domski just trying to wind everyone up, so you poke some fun in my direction - poke away fools.
I was sticking up for you slow people and what I believe is FAIRNESS - so when you get your arses kicked by Phil and anyone else on a 583, don't complain coz you missed out on points coz of the nasty men on 583's.
FFS
Tonio600
10-Jan-2006, 20:40
if FFS means what I think it means, I think Dom's angry :lol:
couchcommando
10-Jan-2006, 20:42
I'll say it again from a racing point of view i couldn't care less if the 583's are out with us 620's, shuld we also ban those with less than 60hp from their 620's too LOL
But from an image point of view I don't want scabby old 583's out in the gucci class :o:o:roll:
Dom dos'nt do angry he just gets excited give him some more jellybabes & he'll be ok.:sing:
[Edited on 10-1-2006 by chass]
dickieducati
10-Jan-2006, 23:01
Originally posted by couchcommando
But from an image point of view I don't want scabby old 583's out in the gucci class :o:o:roll:
always thought the class 'A' and class 'B' titles were a bit condescending. but that is superb. i like it alot.
Gucci class
and
new look?
How about Aldi or Lidl??? :barfy:
:lol:
dickieducati
10-Jan-2006, 23:14
Originally posted by domski
How about Aldi or Lidl??? :barfy:
:lol:
thats a bit unfair.........................................on aldi and lidl.:o
phoenix n max
10-Jan-2006, 23:22
Originally posted by dickieducati
Originally posted by couchcommando
But from an image point of view I don't want scabby old 583's out in the gucci class :o:o:roll:
always thought the class 'A' and class 'B' titles were a bit condescending. but that is superb. i like it alot.
Gucci class
and
new look?
http://annamirjamaria.blogg.se/images/gucci_handbag_185823703.jpg
psychlist
11-Jan-2006, 07:58
Always suspected you ruffty tuffty 620'ers were no more than a bunch of tarts handbags :lol:
couchcommando
11-Jan-2006, 13:40
Gucci and George at Asda classes ;) ;)
skidlids
11-Jan-2006, 19:58
Not read every reply but if a 583cc bike entered in both classes it should mean the race order should always be 583 class followed by the 620 class, otherwise in the case where the two classes follow on from each other it would not only be the advantge of extra track time but also coming to the grid with pre warmed tyres.
Which would certainly give an advantage over the other 583s if someone had just been out with the 620s and yes if the 583 class was first up then those bikes would carry the same advantage of warm tyres onto the 620 grid, although with the power difference the advantage of warm tyres on a 583 is not going to have the same effect.
Rattler
11-Jan-2006, 20:10
Originally posted by skidlids
Not read every reply but if a 583cc bike entered in both classes it should mean the race order should always be 583 class followed by the 620 class, otherwise in the case where the two classes follow on from each other it would not only be the advantge of extra track time but also coming to the grid with pre warmed tyres.
Which would certainly give an advantage over the other 583s if someone had just been out with the 620s and yes if the 583 class was first up then those bikes would carry the same advantage of warm tyres onto the 620 grid, although with the power difference the advantage of warm tyres on a 583 is not going to have the same effect.
The same situation could apply to the timings of the SoT races too.
I can't see the DD races being back to back though, if you were in both (and I'm sure that New Era would encourage race fees for both) you'd need to be lining up for your next race before you've fininshed the first - maybe?
skidlids
11-Jan-2006, 20:49
IF race order was SoT-620-583 do you really think riders doing Sot and 583 have a advantage over one doing 620 and 583, why would anybody on a 583 enter SoT they may as well just enter 620 and I for one can see a problem there.
I have also come around from the slowing down lap left the circuit by the exit then gone straight back to the collecting area and out onto track again to take up my grid position, certainly gives you a lot of confidence in your tyres knowing they are warm and if its raining you have just been out on track and know where the standing water etc is, another nice little advantage.
spot on Kev with your observations mate:)
Have been crewing for Mark, when he's had to do the same.
C
Rattler
11-Jan-2006, 21:44
Originally posted by skidlids
IF race order was SoT-620-583 do you really think riders doing Sot and 583 have a advantage over one doing 620 and 583, why would anybody on a 583 enter SoT they may as well just enter 620 and I for one can see a problem there.
I have also come around from the slowing down lap left the circuit by the exit then gone straight back to the collecting area and out onto track again to take up my grid position, certainly gives you a lot of confidence in your tyres knowing they are warm and if its raining you have just been out on track and know where the standing water etc is, another nice little advantage.
Hmmmm - I think it depends upon a number of factors;
- how "spirited" the 583 rider feels in the 620s.
- the size of their ego
- their ambitions within the other series.
If they are using the non-583 session as practice, when racing in the 620 series, they are much more likely to compete (egos won't allow them to take it easy) and tire themselves out trying to mix it with the 620s.
If they enter the SoT series, they will realistically not be able to keep up and be less likely to wear themselves out as much, as they can be more conservative in their approach.
Would you try harder on a 583 in the 620s or the SoT? If you answer "it would be the same" - I don't believe you ;)
Tim
Chris Wood
11-Jan-2006, 22:36
This thread could come back on track.....
My last version of the rules states the classes would be run in different order at each round.
I'm interested on the rules, and then feelings of all those racing. Is this acceptable or not to compete on a 583 in the 620's, just like a number of us did using SOT last year. Does the club and the DD series benefit from 583's doing 620 rather than SOT?
I would vote for the enter one series - get points in series only in DD. This takeas away the points earning issue.
Rattler
11-Jan-2006, 22:45
Originally posted by Chris Wood
This thread could come back on track.....
My last version of the rules states the classes would be run in different order at each round.
I'm interested on the rules, and then feelings of all those racing. Is this acceptable or not to compete on a 583 in the 620's, just like a number of us did using SOT last year. Does the club and the DD series benefit from 583's doing 620 rather than SOT?
I would vote for the enter one series - get points in series only in DD. This takeas away the points earning issue.
My view would be that the option for riders to line up on both grids was valid if the number of entries was low.
However, my understanding is that with each series now having around 30 riders each, there is no longer a need for this option to "make up the numbers".
I'd like to see a grid of 620s and a grid of 583s.
But as long as the 583s do qualify for the 620, let 'em out there - as long as a 583 rider does not prevent a 620 rider from taking part.
Tim
skidlids
11-Jan-2006, 22:46
Well if your doing the 583 because its the cheaper class then in the spirit of it why keep trying to gain an advantage by spending more money on practice.
There are only so many places in SoT, so if everybody applied then some would miss out, like wise if all 583 riders applied to race in the 620 again some would miss out and how would you determine who, would it be 620 riders who got there paperwork in late.
If I ever race in the 620 class(be it on a 620 or a 583) I don't expect to be able to return to the 583 class the following season.
Chris Wood
11-Jan-2006, 22:49
Sounds good to me.....
We can ask the new race committee!
Originally posted by Chris Wood
Sounds good to me.....
We can ask the new race committee!
do you get a vote on that?:lol::lol::lol:
Chris Wood
11-Jan-2006, 22:57
Skids,
I guess it's a numbers game and I don't want to **** off any one in either
class in DD.
I'd like to be able to run in a couple or races each race day as I won't get enough track day test time, so spend time in SOT learning and getting faster.
If there is no benefit to DD in running in 620's then that's OK.
I would rather run in 620s' than SOT due to the nature of the competititon and the bike not being deeply underpowered in SOT.
Chris Wood
11-Jan-2006, 22:59
I only said ask??
Don't start on the voting...:lol::lol::lol:
Originally posted by Chris Wood
I would rather run in 620s' than SOT due to the nature of the competititon and the bike not being deeply underpowered in SOT.
You make a lot of good points, but not this one :lol:
If it's for extra practice/tracktime/learning then it doesn't matter if you're underpowered in SOT does it - because you're just practicing/learning etc etc.
I would have less issues with this if 583 riders didn't score in the 620 class, then you're not 'taking' anything away from a 620 to whom this is their only series.
But then, what if you get in the way when Geoff et al, come around on the final lap and you're in the way and alter the outcome of a race that you're using for practice/learning etc?
At least if you mess up in SOT you're not gunna upset anyone in DD.
I dunno, it looks like with 30 in each class that this won't be an issue. However, you can have 38 or 40 on some grids...
Rattler
11-Jan-2006, 23:31
Originally posted by Chris Wood
If there is no benefit to DD in running in 620's then that's OK.
The only advantage that I can see is that the DSC gets an improved reputation with New Era, as we are providing fuller grids which equals more revenue.
The fact that the reveneues would be the same, as the individuals would probably compete in SoT anyway is irrespective. Perception is reality!!!
Or are there 583 riders who would enter the 620 and not the SoT because of the power difference?????
Tim
Tonio600
11-Jan-2006, 23:38
Message original : Rattler
Or are there 583 riders who would enter the 620 and not the SoT because of the power difference?????
I would :D For us slow riders, SOT is scarying :lol:
Originally posted by Tonio600
Message original : Rattler
Or are there 583 riders who would enter the 620 and not the SoT because of the power difference?????
I would :D For us slow riders, SOT is scarying :lol:
Yes, but you are french!!
We expect that of you :biaggi::lol:
Tonio600
11-Jan-2006, 23:46
I prefer to be as I am than being scared of having small 583s racing with me in the 620 class :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
skidlids
11-Jan-2006, 23:48
Originally posted by Tonio600
Message original : Rattler
Or are there 583 riders who would enter the 620 and not the SoT because of the power difference?????
I would :D For us slow riders, SOT is scarying :lol:
Best not enter Minitwins with NG then as they share the same grid.
GsxrAge
11-Jan-2006, 23:53
Well from out side looking in (non dd'er) it looks like hand bags at dawn!
for once I am Glad I can't afford to join in but at least i won't get my eyes scratched out or my hair pulled.
It sounds like your scared of getting beaten by a less powerfull bike dom.
Also on the argument of warm tyres add in the equasion a rider having already raced would also be suffering from fatigue !
just my 2p
Age
Originally posted by AGE996
It sounds like your scared of getting beaten by a less powerfull bike dom.
Age
I am so not scared, you wouldn't believe.
The only time I sat on a 2005 620, this happened...
http://www.domweb.co.uk/avatars/cad1.png
...Oh look, I beat the nearest 583 rider by 28 seconds (30 in race 2) and Phil on his 675 - the first non 620, by 12 seconds (20 seconds in race 2).
[Edited on 12-1-2006 by domski]
psychlist
12-Jan-2006, 08:14
Dammit Dom! Why'd you have to pick THAT result sheet? I still can't belive I let the old perv' beat me by 0.2" in that race :o
weeksy2
12-Jan-2006, 10:04
So on a bike with 14bhp more you managed to beat PHil by 12 seconds... not a lot really is it....
weeksy2
12-Jan-2006, 10:08
Whilst i do see a certain amount of logic, surely the plan should be to allow 583 riders who are prepared to comitt to a full season of 583 and 620 into the class.
Then they are full mmebers of the 620 class and therfore not taking away someone else's championship positions but gaining them for themselves ?
Do you feel the same about Hodgson and Walker in WSB at Donington park in 2000 ? Hodsgon and Walker taking Chilli on the last lap ffor victory and taking him from 25 points to 16...... Was that also wrong ?
How about Olivier Jacque in the rain last season on the Kwakka ?
Or even down as far as Shakey getting the Camel ride ?
After all they were not competing in their own series/class... should they have been allowed to score points ?
dickieducati
12-Jan-2006, 10:15
i really dont think its an issue. as dom says, no one who is any good; ie really bothered about their points haul; will be affected by any 583s in the 620 grid. they simply wont be near them. as for other near the back of the grid, they will most likely welcome the competion.
if the DD rules allow 583 into the 620's i assume all 620 entrants will be given priority by new era as i believe SOT guys were over DD'ers at brands?
Originally posted by dickieducati
i really dont think its an issue. as dom says, no one who is any good; ie really bothered about their points haul; will be affected by any 583s in the 620 grid. they simply wont be near them. as for other near the back of the grid, they will most likely welcome the competion.
if the DD rules allow 583 into the 620's i assume all 620 entrants will be given priority by new era as i believe SOT guys were over DD'ers at brands?
I believe thats true m8...and fair...
i dunno what all the fuss is about ..i mean how many 583's are actually going to enter the 620 class....
psychlist
12-Jan-2006, 10:31
Originally posted by fil2
..i mean how many 583's are actually going to enter the 620 class....
Depends if it's raining :lol:
skidlids
12-Jan-2006, 10:33
My only issue with it is the race order if a 620 race is directly before the 583 race I can see it getting used as not only extra practice but also used for warming the tyres. And if one starts doing it so will a few others.
Dom in that result sheet at least my best lap was only just under 4 secs slower than yours, shows how much difference the traffic makes starting futher down the grid compared to starting on the front row.
Also notice I was only less than 2.5 secs behind the bike you previosly rode in the series and actually had a faster lap.
dickieducati
12-Jan-2006, 10:42
regarding race order. from a personal point of view it would also be nice if there were a reasonable gap ( 3 races?) between 620 and 583 to enable us to watch the other series.
Originally posted by dickieducati
regarding race order. from a personal point of view it would also be nice if there were a reasonable gap ( 3 races?) between 620 and 583 to enable us to watch the other series.
LOL..once again i agree.....its gonna be great to watch the other race............
I was going to enter my 583 in the 620 class..but in hindsight i have decided to pull my entry and i will use SoT instead....As it has been mentioned my main concern was taking away valuable points from the battling 620's and we all know how important points are ! so i now see it as unfair...
POINTS means PWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIZES........
:)
Rattler
12-Jan-2006, 11:11
Can we go race yet? I'm getting tired of all this bawlshit!!!!
Originally posted by Rattler
Can we go race yet? I'm getting tired of all this bawlshit!!!!
can we vote on that......................:P
dickieducati
12-Jan-2006, 11:31
actually gagging to get confirmation of the dates/circuits so i can really start planning. already book a day off work for potential castle coombe trackday!
Rattler
12-Jan-2006, 11:45
Originally posted by fil2
Originally posted by Rattler
Can we go race yet? I'm getting tired of all this bawlshit!!!!
can we vote on that......................:P
I've really had enough of all this pre-season crap, Cadwell can't come quick enough.
Cadwell had just better be point scoring. Otherwise its another farce waiting to happen. :flame::flame::flame::flame:
why another farce Tim?
Chris, Monty & also mw have all said it isnt to be a points round - but is on the calendar for practice
C, now getting all confused
:(
dickieducati
12-Jan-2006, 11:59
yup i thought thats was sorted too.
Rattler
12-Jan-2006, 12:00
Originally posted by AK and CK
why another farce Tim?
Chris, Monty & also mw have all said it isnt to be a points round - but is on the calendar for practice
C, now getting all confused
:(
My thoughts are not best stated on this forum.
You have a U2U
Tim
Originally posted by dickieducati
actually gagging to get confirmation of the dates/circuits so i can really start planning. already book a day off work for potential castle coombe trackday!
I have spoken to NE and the date are pretty much set i think dude...............
Track day at CC..u r game......they will noice test u ..105dba at like 8k revs be warned.
phil
Originally posted by AK and CK
why another farce Tim?
Chris, Monty & also mw have all said it isnt to be a points round - but is on the calendar for practice
C, now getting all confused
:(
i thought it was being discussed and not yet decided.?...race meeting without points ..PLEASE............
Rattler
12-Jan-2006, 12:09
Originally posted by dickieducati
yup i thought thats was sorted too.
If Cadwell is non-points, I'm not going. Why would I?
Let me think this through;
March weather, miles away, I can practice locally, race costs, fuel costs, time costs, I could go and bin the bike for no gain!!! - makes no sense to me.
Why would I go?
I want to race for points, not go on a fashion parade.
Tim
dickieducati
12-Jan-2006, 12:10
Originally posted by fil2
I have spoken to NE and the date are pretty much set i think dude...............
Track day at CC..u r game......they will noice test u ..105dba at like 8k revs be warned.
phil
105 should be ok. yeah havnt been to CC before, missed the race this year, and there is a cheeky trackday the wednesday before the (provisional) race. seems rude not to really.
Rattler
12-Jan-2006, 12:18
Originally posted by dickieducati
Originally posted by fil2
I have spoken to NE and the date are pretty much set i think dude...............
Track day at CC..u r game......they will noice test u ..105dba at like 8k revs be warned.
phil
105 should be ok. yeah havnt been to CC before, missed the race this year, and there is a cheeky trackday the wednesday before the (provisional) race. seems rude not to really.
Hmmm - whe are we due the official dates? It'd be a shame to do a trackday the week AFTER the race ;)
Tim
Originally posted by dickieducati
Originally posted by fil2
I have spoken to NE and the date are pretty much set i think dude...............
Track day at CC..u r game......they will noice test u ..105dba at like 8k revs be warned.
phil
105 should be ok. yeah havnt been to CC before, missed the race this year, and there is a cheeky trackday the wednesday before the (provisional) race. seems rude not to really.
deffo m8......its a nice circuit i like it....very quick ( well relative to bikes lol ).....all the groups are mixed and i think like 10minute sessions.......
A mate of mine in 620's is looking at a trackday at CC....maybe u can hook up..?
dickieducati
12-Jan-2006, 12:33
yeah happy to tie up will be booking it as soon as dates are confirmed. as tim says be a pain to do it 3 days after the race:lol:.
i think dates should be 100% and end of jan :puzzled:
ericthered40
12-Jan-2006, 13:18
Originally posted by Rattler
Originally posted by dickieducati
yup i thought thats was sorted too.
If Cadwell is non-points, I'm not going. Why would I?
Let me think this through;
March weather, miles away, I can practice locally, race costs, fuel costs, time costs, I could go and bin the bike for no gain!!! - makes no sense to me.
Why would I go?
I want to race for points, not go on a fashion parade.
Tim
i will still go but that's how i feel about it :saint:
Chris Wood
12-Jan-2006, 14:35
i'm at Cadders in March, points or not, probably the only test/race day before season proper starts...
Or maybe Mallory ACU or Silverstone as local to me.
But will only put in one day before season starts.
couchcommando
12-Jan-2006, 16:36
I couldn't care less who is on a grid with me or what they are riding :) I have to beat who is there with what I've got and that's the bottom line ;) The rider I'm sponsoring in superstock this year would beat all the 620's on a 583 so none of our bikes are the limiting factor to our lap times ;)
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