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gossa
20-May-2006, 10:12
Hi all, onto my second post already!

I have an 05 999s which I recently had into motorapido for valve timing and Ergal belt roller kit. The only other performance upgrade to the bike is the 54mm Termis which come with it. I've gone up two teeth at the rear and fitted an X ring chain (both Ducati Performance).

As part of the work it went on the dyno and an extra 6hp at the wheel was achieved. it's putting out 129 at the wheel.

Has anyone got a similar bike that has been tested to compare? Just curious.

Cheers
Clive

dickieducati
20-May-2006, 13:02
'03 999s pc111 54mm full system:

gossa
20-May-2006, 13:41
Is that about 145 at the wheel?

Is that a before and after with the Power Commander?

dickieducati
20-May-2006, 16:24
that'll be a crank figure so less, say 8%, 135 at the wheel?

yes that was a before and after with the pc111 how does you torque compare to that?

andyb (999r) has a very similar curve set up at same place: jhp.

Stu748R
20-May-2006, 16:25
Dont forget that Moto Rapido's dyno is notorious for not reading as high as quite a few others.

gossa
20-May-2006, 17:48
dickie, i'll dig the printout out to check the torque, the guys at motorapido said they were hoping for a tad more so just wanted to see if anyone had a similar bike to compare.

there was a bit of a flat spot around 6000 which was sorted by the work.

ta

bike mad
22-May-2006, 17:24
so why is the 996 making more power than the 999?
ps good choice of pipe

barnsey
22-May-2006, 18:13
Originally posted by dickieducati
that'll be a crank figure so less, say 8%, 135 at the wheel?

yes that was a before and after with the pc111 how does you torque compare to that?

andyb (999r) has a very similar curve set up at same place: jhp.

How to they measure the power at the crank??? surely its only the rear wheel power that the dyno can measure so why bother quoting 'crank' horsepower?? guess the bike owner just wants to hear the biggest number for pub talk and posting on the forum!

one thing i know about dynos is they are all VERY different. +/- 15% is not unheard of.

dickieducati
22-May-2006, 18:41
Originally posted by bike mad
so why is the 996 making more power than the 999?
ps good choice of pipe

thats just the name of the map. its a before and after set up with pc111 on a 999s

Brogins
22-May-2006, 21:38
999 05 biposto standard with shark exaust, PCIII and filters...
Not bad... 131... Motorapido did the work as well.. sorting out the a flat spot at 4000 RPM setting the PCIII... love it now.

[Edited on 22-5-2006 by Brogins]

bradders
22-May-2006, 21:47
whats the torque number on that brogins?

Bionicle
22-May-2006, 22:02
04 999R pc111 54mm full system

Simon Reed
23-May-2006, 19:34
Crank to wheel loss is 15%,not 8!,work back from that !

[Edited on 23-5-2006 by Simon Reed]

Felix
23-May-2006, 21:27
Originally posted by Bionicle
04 999R pc111 54mm full system

That wants racing, mate, that does!:D

Bionicle
24-May-2006, 10:03
That wants racing, mate, that does!


Wish i was young enough and good enough :)

Brogins
26-May-2006, 00:35
Hi Brad, 78.5... dunno the difference from the std...
On power I think we go from 123 std to 131 on a 05 model with the system, the filters ( the filters I guess zero gain) and the PCIII.
The std 03/04 model (not S) was 118.5.

couchcommando
26-May-2006, 14:48
Originally posted by Simon Reed
Crank to wheel loss is 15%,not 8!,work back from that !

[Edited on 23-5-2006 by Simon Reed]

It's not that simple is it tho ?

A bike with 100 hp loses 15hp thro the transmission yet the same bike tuned with 140hp loses 21hp even tho the transmission is exactly the same ?

All you can get is educated guesses at crank horsepower. I don't know how the dyno shops that give sheets out with crank horsepower work it out when the reading is taken from the wheel ?
In fact I see no reason why they would estimate a crank reading other than trying to impress the owner with bigger figures.
Also comparing readings from different dyno's on different days is no good. All that actually matters is before and after on your own bike.
My TLR race bike had 139 at the rear wheel on one dyno and 134 on another with no changes to the bike.

twpd
26-May-2006, 16:11
Yep. CC is spot on. On one dyno on one day my 800ss roadbike was giving 80bhp. On another dyno on a different day it was giving 76-77bhp.

nathanhu
26-May-2006, 23:53
Pre big exhaust .. so standard "open" Ecu and exhaust
134 ps at the rear wheel
still waiting for the next printout

nathanhu
01-Jun-2006, 21:26
next map was 57mm system without power commander..

looks a little messy, but pulls much stronger out of the corners but the flat spot is massive... :lol: