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SeeleyG50
07-Jan-2009, 19:13
Anybody in the know as to when these might appear, cos I've just discovered that both sets of 'Diablo's' that came with the bike I bought are 'ZR' rated :rolleyes: Assume the 'H' rated tyres are specced cos the compound is a bit stickier? :frog:
Anybody in the know as to when these might appear, cos I've just discovered that both sets of 'Diablo's' that came with the bike I bought are 'ZR' rated :rolleyes: Assume the 'H' rated tyres are specced cos the compound is a bit stickier? :frog:
Have a word with Mark at Holbeach tyres the official suppliers 07733324640.
ChrisBushell
08-Jan-2009, 09:16
The H rating requirement is a stipulation from Pirelli regarding the safety of the tyres.
Desmo Due bikes do not have enough power and are too light to get the Z rated tyres up to proper operating temperature on the track, they are in the right envelope to work the H rated tyres properly.
The H rating requirement is a stipulation from Pirelli regarding the safety of the tyres.
Desmo Due bikes do not have enough power and are too light to get the Z rated tyres up to proper operating temperature on the track, they are in the right envelope to work the H rated tyres properly.
That was not the question!
When are the "H" rated Rossos going to be available?
gordonparker
08-Jan-2009, 11:27
At the moment the exact date is unavailable but we hope to have some information from Pirelli in the comming month or two.
Gordon
The H rating requirement is a stipulation from Pirelli regarding the safety of the tyres.
Desmo Due bikes do not have enough power and are too light to get the Z rated tyres up to proper operating temperature on the track, they are in the right envelope to work the H rated tyres properly.
Use the Z rated ones for trackdays and save the Hs for racing?
I ran Z rated ones by mistake for half a season on my DD bike one year and they seemed ok, but there were a number of hot meetings.....?
Paul
Rattler
08-Jan-2009, 11:52
I ran by mistake for half a season one year........?
Paul
Explains a lot !!! ;)
Murray Mint
08-Jan-2009, 11:57
Use the Z rated ones for trackdays and save the Hs for racing?
I ran Z rated ones by mistake for half a season on my DD bike one year and they seemed ok, but there were a number of hot meetings.....?
Paul
Burn him, burn him. :lol:
MLC Racing
08-Jan-2009, 14:26
Burn him, burn him. :lol:
Nah just wrap him in his tyre warmers...... cos they'll be doing nothing!!!!
Desmo Due bikes are too light to get the Z rated tyres up to proper operating temperature on the track, unless the rider can provide additional weight to make the tyres work.
:frog:
rossco572
13-Jan-2009, 16:25
surely the point is to have them ready now so we can be practising on them in the season build up, and not to be presented with a new integer in the equation that is your bike set up just prior to the first meeting? why are we using pirelli's? What do the riders and the series get from pirelli other than a sticker?
MARTIN H
13-Jan-2009, 17:24
why are we using pirelli's? What do the riders and the series get from pirelli other than a sticker?
I got 2 stickers! :lol:
surely the point is to have them ready now so we can be practising on them in the season build up, and not to be presented with a new integer in the equation that is your bike set up just prior to the first meeting? why are we using pirelli's? What do the riders and the series get from pirelli other than a sticker?
If you want to lose the will to live, do a search for all the other threads on "Tyres" and "DesmoDue" !!!:lol:
in short, and in no particular order, back in 2005 Pirelli under-wrote the Diablos (and presumably now the Rossos) as being suitable for racing our bikes on. No other manufacturer was prepared to do so at the time, although they may now, given that we will buy a couple of hundred tyres a year?
If you can get to lap record times on Diablos, then it might be worth trying Rossos to see if they offer any improvement, especially on a February trackday.
As I've always understood it, tyres COULD be bought from anywhere, it was just that Holbeach were able to offer a good price.
The point in my case being that I can get tyres supplied and fitted locally, at a time that suits me for not much more that a pair of tyres shipped from Holbeach that I then have to collect from a depot when I've missed the courier and then still have to pay someone to fit them...
And the sticker is handy for hiding gouges in the bellypan:eek:
PAul
And the sticker is handy for hiding gouges in the bellypan:eek:
Just how many stickers did you get Paul? :rolleyes:
Just how many stickers did you get Paul? :rolleyes:
Enough to keep the oil in. Or out.
Are you running the black beast in '09, or have you grown up? :lol:
nogaromill998
17-Jan-2009, 18:58
Apparently Pirelli supply the plastic cups at a cost of £1400 for the season, THATS what the series gets out of Pirelli......;)
rossco572
19-Jan-2009, 13:34
that's a f**k**g lot of plastic cups!!! Nice ceramics with a pirelli loga for each entry would be a lot cheaper!! Use it to refill my oil with!
skidlids
19-Jan-2009, 15:40
Looks like Paynep has covered it above
Pirelli sign a letter of agreement stating that the tyres in the DD regulations are suitable for the use that we put them to. And as Paul mentioned no other company was prepared to sign one based on a one tyre rule for both wet and dry
In the first year of DD 2005 we didn't find out what make of tyre we were using until Feb 15th so anybody that had managed to sort their bike out by then had to use what ever they had to hand for practice.
So far we have had 4 successful seasons on Pirelli, shame we don't still get a set or two to give away as prizes at each meeting as we did in 2005, but then I'm not suprised considering the amount of posts that went up questioning why we were using Pirellis during the end of the 2005 season and the start of the 2006 season.
Last years trophies were not cheap plastic things, they were excellent quality proper metal ones... I know this! :bouncy:
[quote=NBs996]Last years trophies were not cheap plastic things, they were excellent quality proper metal ones... I know this! :bouncy:
i second that there quolity its funny how people who dident get any seem to moan about them:confused: pirreli diablos are awsome tyres i wouldent race on out else speacialy in the wet .
nogaromill998
19-Jan-2009, 18:51
[quote=NBs996]Last years trophies were not cheap plastic things, they were excellent quality proper metal ones... I know this! :bouncy:
i second that there quolity its funny how people who dident get any seem to moan about them:confused: pirreli diablos are awsome tyres i wouldent race on out else speacialy in the wet .
I dont think anyone was moaning Kev, just that someone asked what the series DOES get out of Pirelli in terms of sponsorship thats all.....so I gave the answer that CB gave me....
Imola Duke
19-Jan-2009, 18:53
[quote=NBs996]Last years trophies were not cheap plastic things, they were excellent quality proper metal ones... I know this! :bouncy:
i second that there quolity its funny how people who dident get any seem to moan about them:confused: pirreli diablos are awsome tyres i wouldent race on out else speacialy in the wet .
If anyone has a spare trophy they don't want I'll take it off your hands ;)
One would look good in my lounge :D
[quote=Imola Duke][quote=Senna3]
If anyone has a spare trophy they don't want I'll take it off your hands ;)
One would look good in my lounge :D
im sure you will get one this year just keep up the good work it pays off in the end
skidlids
19-Jan-2009, 19:00
Sadly they don't grow on Trees
I could do with a Class A one to add to my Class B and Minitwins ones but I can't see me getting one :(
Bikes not quick enough and neither is the rider
[quote=skidlids]Sadly they don't grow on Trees
I could do with a Class A one to add to my Class B and Minitwins ones but I can't see me getting one :(
Bikes not quick enough and neither is the rider
its not the wining its taking part and as long as you enjoy it thats wot matters , if you get a trophy its a bonus you cant beat racing around a track with your mates plus the banter after
Imola Duke
20-Jan-2009, 18:59
[quote=skidlids]Sadly they don't grow on Trees
I could do with a Class A one to add to my Class B and Minitwins ones but I can't see me getting one :(
Bikes not quick enough and neither is the rider
its not the wining its taking part and as long as you enjoy it thats wot matters , if you get a trophy its a bonus you cant beat racing around a track with your mates plus the banter after
Spot on! :)
bradders
20-Jan-2009, 19:42
I think its horrendous that Pirelli havent sorted this yet!! I mean, dont they realise this is THE premier class of racing?! Its not like they have anything else to spend time, effort and resources fro development on.... :rolleyes: ;)
ChrisBushell
21-Jan-2009, 08:10
I think its horrendous that Pirelli havent sorted this yet!! I mean, dont they realise this is THE premier class of racing?! Its not like they have anything else to spend time, effort and resources fro development on.... :rolleyes: ;)
Quite right Paul, We are a long way down the pecking order from WSB/BSB and as such are near the bottom of the list to get sorted out.
However Pirelli, Shell etc have been more than generous over the previous years (and they didn't have to be) so a little patience often pays off.
Chris
Fastfasulli
27-Jan-2009, 12:14
I think its horrendous that Pirelli havent sorted this yet!! I mean, dont they realise this is THE premier class of racing?! Its not like they have anything else to spend time, effort and resources fro development on.... :rolleyes: ;)
You are just sooo grounded Paul!!! ;-)
[quote=skidlids]Sadly they don't grow on Trees
I could do with a Class A one to add to my Class B and Minitwins ones but I can't see me getting one :(
Bikes not quick enough and neither is the rider
its not the wining its taking part and as long as you enjoy it thats wot matters , if you get a trophy its a bonus you cant beat racing around a track with your mates plus the banter after
Also remember pain is only temporary, .....Trophies last forever.:)
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