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Paul James 12-Oct-2006 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by TP
Easy Lily! I haven't said anything to contradict what you've said here! I think it's fair enough.

Contrary to popular belief, it's not a witch hunt for me. I know things can't be changed I just want to make sure they aren't repeated and we can't really do that without knowing the real story.

That's all :)


Have to agree and at least this meeting is open to all members.

It won't just be the riders with questions they want answered, I'm sure some on the MT will raise some as well, I know I've got a few.

Ideal chance to clear the air IMHO.

madmav 12-Oct-2006 15:50

Fascinating,

can someone explain in real simple terms what's going on?

Have we forgot(and I came in a lot later) put me right if i'm wrong please!

1, Three or four guys set up a club off the back of another club (when things like this started to go on).

2,Those 3 0r 4 guys put a lot of hardwork into making this club work!

3, members pay to join,

4, some members then want to become managers of the club and change it! (once all the hard work has been done)

5, The members who cant change things into what and how they want the club to be, start crying!

6 The members of the club want to go racing?

7 The club then seems to become a DD club

8 The non racing members get upset and ****ed off ! (not suprisingly)

MT RC MRC WMPT what a load of B.o.l.o.x
It's a furking bike club

The people make it work !

Mavs simple solution (because i'm simple)

DD is now a proven enterty ( New DD club needed) funded by DD racers and sponsers.

DSC Bike club funded by DSC members who should have a say where and how the subscriptions are spent !

Freedom of speach unless it's a personal insult (moderators job)


acces all area's by means of membership !
Otherwise you only get to read posts and not reply!
(and yes I have sent my membership form back with payment!)

I think 2 things might happen !

1, loads of new members or
2, No club .

wadaya think?

uncle mav

Tonio600 12-Oct-2006 16:04

I surprisingly agree with the above.

To me DD should be run by "a branch" of the DSC, a club within the club. Let's call it the DDSC just the time of my explaination.
The DDSC would be owned by the DSC. Any member of the DDSC would automatically be a member of the DSC, but it wouldn't work the other way round (like DSC and DOC...).

When new members join, they've got the choice of giving their dosh to the DSC or the DDSC, whether they care or not about the racing stuff. In that way DSC members would be sure their money has nothing to see with the racing, even if I believe it's already the case today.

Then members of the DDSC (racers, bike owners, fans, people who care about the racing stuff) would elect a Racing Committe. I don't think there would be the need of an MT, unlike for the DSC. The DDSC RC would deal with all the racing issues, the DSC MT dealing with the club's other issues.

And if one day things go wrong for any reason, the DSC MT has power to stop DD overnight by destroying the DDSC.

In that way, I can see:

- no breakaway from the DSC,
- no commitment towards DD from the DSC members who don't want,
- help for DD from the DSC members who do want,
- an MT running a bike club,
- an RC running a racing club.

Couldn't that work and please everybody?

weeksyracing 12-Oct-2006 16:08

Amazingly enough fella... that was pretty much what i said at the meeting on Sauturday night and the 'Evo group' agreed to.

All the riders present were more than happy with that.

couchcommando 12-Oct-2006 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonio600
I surprisingly agree with the above.

To me DD should be run by "a branch" of the DSC, a club within the club. Let's call it the DDSC just the time of my explaination.
The DDSC would be owned by the DSC. Any member of the DDSC would automatically be a member of the DSC, but it wouldn't work the other way round (like DSC and DOC...).

When new members join, they've got the choice of giving their dosh to the DSC or the DDSC, whether they care or not about the racing stuff. In that way DSC members would be sure their money has nothing to see with the racing, even if I believe it's already the case today.

Then members of the DDSC (racers, bike owners, fans, people who care about the racing stuff) would elect a Racing Committe. I don't think there would be the need of an MT, unlike for the DSC. The DDSC RC would deal with all the racing issues, the DSC MT dealing with the club's other issues.

And if one day things go wrong for any reason, the DSC MT has power to stop DD overnight by destroying the DDSC.

In that way, I can see:

- no breakaway from the DSC,
- no commitment towards DD from the DSC members who don't want,
- help for DD from the DSC members who do want,
- an MT running a bike club,
- an RC running a racing club.

Couldn't that work and please everybody?


I like that but it's far too simple and easy to ever happen.

TP 12-Oct-2006 16:12

I agree, a great idea.

madmav 12-Oct-2006 16:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by TP
I agree, a great idea.


not really a great idea tony !
just some good old fashioned common sence !

mav

khushy 12-Oct-2006 16:28

this is funny . . .
 
sounds like a well known Monty Python sketch to me - committee's, meetings about meetings, censorship, the pfJ, the jpf . . . . blah blah blah

race or ride - its that simple isnt it?

ego is the word - the undooer of all things that were good!

Khushy

btw - my name's Brian!!!

Monty 12-Oct-2006 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonio600
I surprisingly agree with the above.

To me DD should be run by "a branch" of the DSC, a club within the club. Let's call it the DDSC just the time of my explaination.
The DDSC would be owned by the DSC. Any member of the DDSC would automatically be a member of the DSC, but it wouldn't work the other way round (like DSC and DOC...).

When new members join, they've got the choice of giving their dosh to the DSC or the DDSC, whether they care or not about the racing stuff. In that way DSC members would be sure their money has nothing to see with the racing, even if I believe it's already the case today.

Then members of the DDSC (racers, bike owners, fans, people who care about the racing stuff) would elect a Racing Committe. I don't think there would be the need of an MT, unlike for the DSC. The DDSC RC would deal with all the racing issues, the DSC MT dealing with the club's other issues.

And if one day things go wrong for any reason, the DSC MT has power to stop DD overnight by destroying the DDSC.

In that way, I can see:

- no breakaway from the DSC,
- no commitment towards DD from the DSC members who don't want,
- help for DD from the DSC members who do want,
- an MT running a bike club,
- an RC running a racing club.

Couldn't that work and please everybody?


Don't see why not Tonio-interesting ideas bring them to the meeting?

John

Monty 12-Oct-2006 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by TP
If I may be so bold ...

IMO the key to this is not trying to control what people can and can't say. Lets have EVERYTHING out in the open, dealt with, resolved and we can all move on.

Transparency transparency transparency ....

bugger bugger bugger bugger bugger bugger bugger bugger :lol: :lol:


I may have to ask Eamonn to reinstate the filter if you are going to keep using that word young Perrin-now sit in the corner on the naughty chair.:lol:

John


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