Well Enjoy the Uk thats my last word on this subject. I will Watch the uk go to **** on Sky news From my hammock in retirement heaven. The Uk has nothing to offer.. and that is said with a heavy heart from a guy who has fought for his country.
There is a lot more I would like to type but I could be labled "insulting" By the PC nutters that seem to be Living in this once great nation.

That sums it all up really. "from a guy who has fought for his country". That's why me and doogalman want to move into our German house full time ASAP!!! :devil:

It would make sense that the late 40's, 50's and some of the 60's were less crime ridden, not because it was not reported, but because the population had just come out of a war. Community is what helped the UK survive the hardship and austerity. Most of the male population had seen nearly 6 years of bloodshed so violence was not part of the psychy. Yes, there was violent crime but, unlike now there was honour amounst thieves, one cardinal rule was, you don't shoot coppers. The reason cop killers got caught is because the 'firm' tipped off who it was, and if they didn't get caught by the feds, then the 'firm' got shot of them themselves. The Krays were put away for getting rid of one of their own. Those gangs fought each other for turf.

I have always said I would pick up a gun when the enemy were walking up my high street, to be quiet honest I thought it would be something like a jackboot of one kind or another, but the enemy is walking up our high street. Not only are we powerless as a society to prevent it, the powers we vest in those meant to protect us have IMHO formed self protecting groups. The general public are the last thing on their minds. Elfensafety, PC and Human rights prevail but not for the majority.
Voting? That is a laugh, you vote for the same team only the shirt is a different colour. We will not have a real democracy until the party system is busted. The only way that will happen is if we all vote for a non affiliated independent person standing for the community, not some politically spun ar*ehole parachuted in from another part of the country because he/she is the party leaders bright eyed person.
That is one thing I admire of the French, when they disagree with something then they physically do something about it. The Brits, pi55 and moan and do s*d all.

Maybe the time has come to fight fire with fire. The lads in the van, two or three blokes gets out to beat the living **** out of them and then drive off. I bet any witnesses seeing it would find they suddenly could not remember a number plate.

We, that are big enough and fit enough to do something about it maybe should start doing so. Because as I type this, no other b*st**d is going to do it. No doubt I will now get the riot act read to me. To be quiet honest I've given up giving a **** about these low lifes. They get what is coming in any fashion. The main reason? Because that poor woman died in vane if we don't; because the next victim could be my 13 year old daughter walking home from school or could be your partner, spouse or relative.

Ains.

Jools my friend, I must admit that the comparisons I was making related to the differences between today and the forties and fifties which I lived through. Drug addiction too has a big impact on crime now. In those days drug taking was unheard of.

TP, it was not my intention to be condescending towards you and I should not have addressed you as young man. Accept my apologies, I hope there is no bad feeling between us.
Perhaps I feel too strongly about this issue.

Taking all of the above into consideration, I think one difference between now and even ten or fifteen years ago is the length of sentences once a criminal has been caught and found guilty.

I am incredulous at some of the pathetic sentences given for serious offences rapists, paedophiles and murderers commit, including those who cause deaths on the road.

To my mind if you lock someone away for a minimum of 10 years with no parole for the above offences then we know damn well that that particular person can't commit any further offences to our loved ones for at least 10 years.

Re - offend again when you come out? Then next time matey it's 25 years minimum. And if you murder your victim to cover up your crime?

Life, to mean until you die.

I wonder what the re-offending rate would be then?

Thanks Ariel, I accept.

No bad feelings :)

Glyn, I do respect you and your opinion. That's why I just hope you won't hurt too much when falling off your hammock. The ground is not softer anywhere in the world. :(

I've now lived in France for 24 years and in England for 2 years. Yet I've never been insulted or threatened when walking in the street in the UK. I suppose I must be a lot luckier on this side of the Channel. Come on guys, there is no place better than another in that world. There are some worse places for sure. Irak is now one of them. But none is better.

I'm only 26, so I guess I must be younger than most of the people complaining in that thread. That's why I'm going to shup up now :)

We are too Liberal in our attitudes..not standing up for what we believe in....we allow our heritage and way of life to be eroded with an " oh its ok attitude " soon it wont be.........

And yes it has gotten worse.....we are becoming more de-sensored to the happenings in our society.....

Accepting of main stream movies that glorify torture murder and voilence..each one more shocking than the next..big brother selecting contestants that are prone to strange out landish behavoir.....no holds barred fighting....

the list goes on............

Not PC correct to hang up Christmas decorations in our offices.?...not PC correct to have a cross around your neck..!

Happy slapping.....people getting beaten to death while the teenager film it laughing.?

sure you may not be exposed to it in your comfortable life style " an englishmans home is his castle ".....well look outside the walls.....it IS getting worse and soon will be at your doorstep.!..

Over the top ..maybe....but until we stand up and demand stiffer punishments real detterents...stand up for our way of life...then soon it will be lost.!

Tonio
It seems from the below link its one in one out,,, You can have my place.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6210358.stm

Enjoy Frenchie....LOL