cheap racing Ant:lol:

I'm thinking more like it should have had mirrors at sometime in it's life:lol:

Serious point though, the best ride on an RS will win, but the average rider on the RS will still be average - see point well made above re Class B bike winning a Class A race. I have been on track on my 748e and not been beaten on power by a 748r purely because of line and corner exit speed. I've ridden around the outside of a lot of 996R's in my time on my CB500. A well known story exists of a certain Monty on his ST4 with panniers on it riding around me on my 748 at Silverstone on one of my first trackdays.....never again old man:lol:

I ride with some of the No Limits instructors and can't believe what they can do with a motorbike compared to my crappy skills

WeeJohnyB

No problem!
 

[quote=WeeJohnyB]:lol: The never-ending saga that is tyres in DD:lol:

The word safety is raised above and has been many times before and no doubt will be again. How can you tell me that it is 'safe' to ask a rider to ride to their limit and beyond in race conditions on a road tyre on a cold and wet March morning with no tyre warmers. Any racer will tell you it's madness, most wouldn't go out under such circumstances. In my first year in CB5's, wets were not allowed, but warmers were. I am by comparison to some of my lunatic competitors a fairly smooth rider, so I actually enjoyed the wet races on dry tyres as I knew I could beat others I normally wouldn't and that some of them would fall off. I have watched DD'ers tip toe around a corner in the wet and sat at The Hairpin and the Mountain at Cadwell watching good riders fall off and take others out with them.
What price 'cheap' racing when your bike is in bits, the guy next to you in the paddock's season is over because you took him out and you are sitting in a hospital bed - all for the cost of a set of warmers or wets.

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I have made this point before as well but we appear to be in the minority.

And if people feel there is no benefit in the use of tyre warmers why ban them?
I have no problem with the Pirelli's or the single tyre rule.
But it would be nice if at Pembrey at the end of September, they were up to temp. before the chequered flag.
Where people source them from is their own affair. Having Mark at Holbeach's services trackside is great and one thing less for me to worry about.


My concerns about a 748/9 class is that it has been done in SS600 or SOT or some other class that is not 'Ducati'. and it goes even further away from the 'cheap racing' phylosophy that fills the class B grid while the enthusiam for class A (Gucci) seems to be dwindling away.

You can always tell autumn is here - the nights start drawing in, the leaves start turning brown and the great DD tyre mass debate begins again.

I got to grips this year with pushing it on the first lap and got over my cold tyre phobia :)

Sticky stuff did have HR Diablos for £134 free postage back in March.
They soon rocketed up in price when i posted a link on here......:mad:
Maybe Pirelli had a word......... :lol:

Just had a set of Maxxis Sports fitted to my 944 SS for £135 (fitted) at Bikers world whats good enough for
Guy Martin is good enough for me!

Some people mass debate through all 4 seasons :lol:

Anyone else like soup? Pea and ham for me!

My 748rs isn't going anywhere near you nut jobs on track!!!:lol:

They were almost certainly given 'the hard word' Steve. I have a source for Diablos at £143 fitted to loose wheels. I said I would put a link on here and was asked not to as If I did supplies would probably "Dry Up"

I told a few people in the paddock and I know Phil (Ghost) got a pair mail order for about the same.


It's not likely Chris....My supplier disputes the statement from Pirelli "Z rated were not suitable" as once they have started to warm up they retained that heat better due to the difference in construction (see Andy Shep's post). They also said that compounds had changed over the last few years and the Z's were now slighly softer and are fit for use ....for both classes.

Their recommended treaded, control tyre for DD, wet and dry, class A and B is the new Michelin Pilot One (soft front medium soft rear )

The company is owned by the most experienced race tyre supplier in the UK; and will be subject to the same liabilty issues that you have spoken of in the past.

....I was also told with Michelin now putting much of their MotoGP budget into club and national racing an early letter to Michelin UK 'could' get a very satisfactory result for all DD'ers.

BTW....You still owe Steve Klee (Imola Duke) 'a public apology' on here and on Ducatisti

One more thing....If you owned an tatty 1985 Ford Escort and wanted to buy a new car would you spend all your time trying to source a 'new' 1985 Ford Escort or buy an up to date, safer, more economical, comforable....get the picture

Can we have a name for this Pirelli representative? As I have been unable to find anyone in Pirelli who will commit to such a comment.

I'd like to know who shot JFK?

Does the whole Z or H rated issue become a bit of a non-issue as MY supplier - Micheldever Tyres - has advised me that their supplier tells them the "Pirelli don't make the H-rated Diablo anymore"?

Maybe we have to consider the use of a different tyre or manufacturer for 2010..............oh, hang on, I appear to have fallen through a wormhole in time....