could be more in the sin bin than those not soon :lol::lol:


Maybe you might sort this out mav by using your management skills ( The heavy mob :lol:)

Age

eliteist!

errr you mean rejoin !!!

and your point being ???

maybe you should view it as 4 commited ex members of this club that it has for various reasons lost ??

do you EVER have anything constructive or positive to say ?? because in all your hundreds of posts I've never seen anything that could be described as such ....

post me a link, go on, prove me wrong !!

Although aint your cheque in the post? :lol:

If you dont like it here, **** off! How that for constructive........as appossed to destructive!.....and i have seen plenty of that from you.

Why stay around? Why not do something about whats going wrong if your so committed?.....You aint lost 6500 posts say your still here....banging on! Do something about it, put yourself up for committee, and expose all these wrong doings! failing that...................... just stay bleeting on and on!

No need for that Age ! we are all here for two reasons
1 you own a Ducati
2 you have a lot of friends on here !

Up to date as a "non" member I have
put £50 behind the counter at JHP I think 4d won that !
Discounted By £325 A few members who came out to the ring!
placed £200 pounds worth of items for a raffel at the AGM

Helped loads of peeps out on here ! including out of hours !

In return I have pretty much a free hand for advertising my trips !
I cant complain

so what have some of the sarcy "members " on her donated?

mav

You left out:

5. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I posted on another thread about people tarring all members of the MT with the same brush.

Some of the MT have had very heated and very public disagreements with some of the members and have usually paid a very public price for it by being vilified extensively on this board. In some cases I wholeheartedly agree that those MT members have been very clumsy in trying to deal with whatever situation they were trying to deal with and have deserved a public kicking. Furthermore, I have told those MT members that to their face.

However, lumping the whole of the MT together as one entity with only "the party line' point of view is disingenuous.

You can read my post on the Regional Organisers thread that states my aim when elected to the MT was to be 'a voice for the membership on the MT rather than the other way round'. I have tried very hard to uphold that aim and I have also tried to be scrupulously objective in my judgement of the many issues and grievances that the membership see fit to air. This includes very blunt dialogue with others on the management team with whom I have disagreed. Like anybody else in the world, my opinions differ from the next man and this means that I sometimes agree with the consensus view of the MT and sometimes I don't. If I don't agree with the direction, method or approach taken then I speak my mind and try to persuade people of my point of view. That, to my mind, is the adult way.

What we have now is a situation where open season has been declared, by a few, on anybody who has tried to further the interests of the DSC membership by having the temerity to put themselves forward as an MT member. I put myself forward to try and help people have a good time on Ducatis, not to be an 'Aunt Sally' for anyone who thinks they can take a pop.

I am not alone in being an independantly minded member of the MT, some of us, however, just want to get on with the job that the membership elected us to do without being 'guilty by association'. Unfortunately, we have to deal with misguided assertions, like the one above, that we're too idle to be bothered by members concerns, that we couldn't care less, that we have to have people in our pocket to post for us because we're too stupid to think up a reply for ourselves.

The truth is that nearly everything that an MT member posts these days is ripped to shreds. It will be interesting to watch this post being publicly disembowelled.

To the point. My personal view on the whole subject on who should be allowed to post on this board is clear.

The board is paid for by the members of the DSC, in my view that makes them the users who should benefit the most from their usage of this board. However, I would hate to see this board become closed to any non-members who wish to use it and have argued that it should be available to all. On all the DSC rideouts that I've been on everybody has been welcome whatever they ride and I'd like to see this ethos maintained in the virtual world.

In my view, members have a right to use the board as they see fit and we extend that as a privilege to non-members (not that many would see that as a valued privilege right now). People who are non-members have chosen to be so either because they haven't decided to join yet, or they don't see any value in joining, or they have joined and found no point in renewing or they have left because they are disaffected. That's fine, no club can be all things to all men and if you don't want to be a member, then don't be.

As to moderation, people think that they have a right to say anything that they want to say on web forums, regardless of whether they are a member or not. This is not true. Moderation has to be in place to stop the board descending into a Visordown clone, stop pointless interpersonal feuds or worse, stop it from becoming a cesspit of bigotry.

Difficult job, moderation. One man's moderation is anothers censorship but on the whole I think it works quite well. People are not moderated for no reason at all and are given fair warning that their post has been found to be offensive or in breach of forum rules (or reported by another user).

It works both ways. People who have complained about finding their posts being moderated have also, if they care to admit it, been protected from attacks by others being moderated in turn, or having offensive posts directed at them removed. As an MT member I see some of the removed posts and some are sickening in their personal attacks. Do the webteam always get it right? Of course not, nobody's judgement is infallible, but from what I've seen they try hard to make sure there are no double standards.

may as well let people like Jewel back on and get posting as well hay
amazing people join
have a tantrum because its not how they like it
then stick around to sling Mud
why you still here.
we never had a vote. and I mean off the board
to ask if we all need saving.
you all take it on yourselves to come threw on your white horses.
and save us from what ?
I hope the MT have the balls to pull this thread 2
it serves no purpose other than to massage the huge egos of a few
who continue to snipe at the MT

I think Henners has already tried that mate and look how he's been treated.

I will continue to post on here as I can as it is a public Forum but as for missing my Duke ownership then no I aint as there seems to be too many owners who think they are VIP's.

Mav is a fine example of what he has tried to do for the DSC but is constantly in a battle with MT because he is a Buisness but ffs he is trying to give DSC members/users Discounts.

But MT cannot see that He has been trying to pass on the benifits of his HARD work to all of us.


Age