It's ok, I won't charge more than £49 an hour :lol:



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Aren't Ducati's great :D

Design is so difficult to quantify.

I am in a similar position working for a sign company for the last 20 years. I sell the signs and also design them. Sadly we can't charge up front for design but try to include for it in our pricing.

Where you can go wrong is to spend say 3 hours designing something and quote for that and then have the customer change his mind about layout etc. You then in effect have to start again, but if you have given a fixed price you will then make a loss as the customer will say that you have already charged for it.

You could say to a customer that you will produce a basic website ( and show him an example or template ) for a fixed price - say £500 ( if it will take say 10 hours to design ) but that for every hours design over that you will charge £50 per hour.

Once you have a few under your belt and can show them to potential customers then you could up your prices.

It's a balance between pricing to make sure that you get the work and not selling yourself short. It's pointless trying to get £100 per hour and only doing one a year because your potential customers can't / won't pay that price.



Only my opinion though

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Okay Okay... Just had this conversation with my brother too.

I've never looked at it like that - what a numpty ;)

I just can't see how I can charge £500 for 10 hours work... although I'm coming around to the idea :D

I just need someone to get me 1 website a week, and I can retire... any sales people out there?

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That's precisely how I feel about it too.

...and why I still drive lorries for a living :lol:

Don't forget, if you appear too cheap, people will walk away as well.

The premise of a basic site for £xx. then £yy for each hours update that philthy suggests is a good one especially as a starting point, and it sets expectations early on.

You could also produce a set of templates from what you've already done, that a client could have customised at xx/hour as well if that suits you better.


Just don't undersell yourself!

Yes Dom, you are pricing yourself out of the market because you are too cheap. Most companies will have an idea of how much they want to pay for a website, and if you're not close then they will walk away - under or over.

As a guide, our consultancy is £500+VAT per day, but we usually charge fixed price on websites once a spec has been agreed. Basically it starts at £2K and goes from there depending on complexity. Remember that most of our stuff isn't just pages though, ours is mostly scripting work.

It doesn't matter that we pay £9+VAT per month for hosting, we'll charge out what the client expects us too.

My trick is to research them first while discussing what they want. If they're already paying for a website, find out who it is with (then find out how much they typically charge) or ask them how much they pay. Alternatively, ask them how much they're expecting to spend "so you know roughly how much customisation they can afford" and then go in slightly over.

Always works for me :D

Cool, thanks Ant, looks like I need to sort myself out if I'm to become a millionaire before the end of the year ;)

Thanks to Chi too for your U2U - I'll get back to you asap.

Cheers everyone.

Not only have I lost the ability to ride motorcycles, but you all think I'm cheap :(

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was slow and cheap

now slow and expensive

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£100 an hour to you son :P

Looked at your webski, get out there and fill your boots mate.

Plenty out there for you.

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