Martin, how much are you guys doing the 57mm system for?

Sent you a u2u.

Its true,....but its for the 999S '05.
Pages 50/51 of the DP catalogue.
Part no.96445205B
'Transformation kit to change assymetric exhaust into complete 2-1-2 assembly with 54mm steel muffler,dedicated control unit and high efficiency air filters.'

:P:P:P

Picky of the " none existant kit " termi 05 999s , who knows wot it,ll fit
:puzzled::puzzled::puzzled:

[Edited on 9-11-2005 by ace]

Yes, Thank you keefyB and Ace, Knew I was not going mad.

If the pipes fit the 999S they should also fit any other bike with the deep sump engine and new swinging arm, it will only be the ecu that would be of no use.

Usually the pipework can be bought separately so without the ecu it will not work out that expensive, cmon Martin do your homework :P

I would put the Leo vinci miles above the termi in both quality andf fit,sounds the mutts as well.
leo vinci gave 10 bhp increase over std when set up on dyno,far more than termis(termi quality seems to have taken a nose dive recently).
In my oppinion the LV looks far better than the trmi as well
Butch

OOOPS Your right iang,
just checked the ref in the catalogue!:puzzled:

Even called Duc UK on it yesterday specifically "to make sure!" before replying:)

They / me had never heard of it (never supplied one) and to be honest I didn't study the catalogue to check. Oh well, a lesson learned here.

The transformation kit is a shade off £950. I'm told the catalogue doesn't list separate parts, without spending a while on the phone I don't know if you can split it!
After you've bought asymetric plus conversion kit plus powercommander it's gonna be close to the price of a Termi / Leo Vinci 57mm anyway.

There is also the Termi availability that could be a serious issue. (haven't asked that question as yet, see previous threads!)

As to horsepower, just called JHP / Ducati Coventry and apparently both systems give "much of a muchness" with respect to power hikes!

Guess it's down to name / looks / finish. After doing my homework (this time:D) Sounds like butch may be right, the Leo Vinci 57mm is the (albeit a bit more costly) way to go!!

Anyone want a second hand Termi!!!!!:lol:

Martin

Note the steel muffler bit! turns out we could both be right? You do need to change the rear box! So what are you getting, everything except the front pipe? and a heavy steel back box?

Id go for the ti box/ steel pipe mix myself in 57mm!

I myself cannot justify the £2800 for the proper 749R termi system so that is why I bought the 749R assymetric system.

The weight difference between the s/steel and titanium back box makes no difference to me nor to the performance and for what difference the weight is will it 'really' make any difference to the bike ?

When I heard of this kit to convert to the full system I just thought that it might be a cheaper alternative to buying a full system especially so with me already having the back box, filters and ecu along with a pc3.
At £950 it is a ridiculous price without a back box but if it could be bought without the filters and ecu which are probably about £500 it could be worth going for especially with a bit of discount.

I know the assymetric system retails for about £1100 ( £850 with discount )but am unsure what the prices of the full systems are apart from the £2800 for the 749R version ( £2200 with discount ) which is way beyond what I would like to pay.

Are they cheaper in USA if the taxes can be avoided ?

But didnt you pay near a grand for the asymetric system originally? add that to the cost of the conversion kit = the price of buying the proper system in the first place?